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FAQ - Jedi Knight Trials
Apr 24 2005 11:59am

Virtue
 - Jedi Council
Virtue
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Due to the amount of questions we receive at the JAC Q&A Sessions regarding Trials and Trial Procedures, I decided to write this FAQ.
I will add to it if more questions arise on the matter. :)

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What is involved in a Jedi Knight Trial?

Jedi Knight Trials are very secret and only members of the JAK+ know exactly what is involved in one. The only information I will give out concerning what goes on, is that they consist of very precise and challenging tests of Skill, Morality, Mentality and Problem solving. Trials are skill specific, meaning that a Gunner won't be trialled, expecting to be highly skilled with a Lightsaber and/or Dueling. The Trials are engineered to be the ultimate test of an individual's specialty - IE. Gunning, Dueling, Full Force, etc. There are maps that have been built especially for the Trials and the maps themselves are built to test many of the prerequisites of being a Jedi Knight.

Where are the Trial Maps and why are there no links to them on the site?

See above. Jedi Knight Trials are very secret and mysterious. The only people who have these maps are the JAK+ and Students who are taking the Trials. The maps are sent to 'Trialees' via P2P (Peer To Peer) method (IRC, MSN, AIM, etc.) only minutes before their Trial starts, the maps are NOT uploaded to the website, nor can they be obtained via any hyperlink.

Are Students allowed to watch other people being Trialled?

No.

Why all the secrecy?

If everyone knew what was involved in the Trial procedures, the Trials would be made obsolete. People would train specifically just to pass the Trials, people would know about their secrets and answers and would render tests of morality, mentality and problem solving ineffective. Also, the Trials serve as a test of how people behave under extreme, stressful or nervous situations. There is a certain feel/atmosphere around Jedi Knight Trials and taking them which adds to the excitement of them. If everyone knew about them and what was involved in becoming a Jedi Knight - then all of this would be destroyed. The Academy would be made a little less exciting and we wouldn't be sure of the people we were promoting in respect to mentality, admin abuse, spirit and many of the other key things associated with being a Jedi Knight at the JA.

How is anyone supposed to pass a Trial if they don't know anything about what is in them?

I will not deny that the Jedi Knight Trials are very hard. But at the same time, if you are active in the JA and you attend Classes and/or Padawan sessions frequently, then you will be taught how to do many of the things that are involved in the Trials, we just don't tell you that you are learning Trial material. :P
Not only do we teach you to be a better JK3 player, but we subtly teach you how to pass Trials.
Each and every Class here at the JA has something different for you to learn about passing a Trial, you just won't know that you're learning it. ;)

Can you at least tell us about the procedure of Knight selection?

That, I can do. :)
Students at the JA are constantly being evaluated by ranked members, even the freshly new recruits. Not in a very 'official' way, we're not spying on your every movement or anything - rather, we are merely watching how skilled you are, what you have learned from Classes/Padawan Sessions and how well you use the information you have learned. Your attitude and how you interact with other people is also a high factor in this procedure, how helpful you are and how you behave in some of those 'tricky' situations (Eg. When someone is laming, when someone is being offensive/annoying etc.). Don't be fooled by this, though, your input in these situations is neither required or requested - if a JAK+ is dealing with an offender, you are expected to carry on playing as normal - do not get involved. If there are no ranked members present, simply remind the offender of the rules in a diplomatic way whilst taking screenshots/condumps/demos of the offending actions and trying to contact a ranked member immediately.
If your actions are found to be worthy of an opportunity for a Jedi Knight Trial, your name will be brought before the entire JAK+ body and you will be discussed. Factors that will influence this discussion are your attitude, skill, activity, your willingness to help others and your presence to most of the ranked members (The 'aura' you give).
If, after this discussion, you are found to be a worthy candidate, you are then 'toggled'.

What does 'Toggled' mean?

'Toggling' basically means "Your account at the JA has been flagged, opening it up to Trial information".
There are four steps to Jedi Knight Trials, being toggled is the first. Once you are toggled, you can take the next step, which is the written exam. This consists of a list of questions for you to answer concerning the JA, the rules and/or policies, various in-game things, etc. Once you have submitted this exam, it is then discussed by the JAK+ and then graded by a JAC. If you get a 'pass' on your exam, you can then take the next step in the Trials. :)

How long are the Trials?

If you mean 'How long are they from the day you are toggled, to the day you become a Jedi Knight', at shortest it can take two to three weeks to complete the entire process, in many cases, it can take a lot longer. There is a lot involved, especially for you. :P

What happens if someone fails a Trial?

If, at any point during the process, a Trial is failed, then the potential Knight is given one more chance to get it right - A 'Re-Trial' is then scheduled no earlier than two weeks after the first initial failure. The potential Knight may not "pick up where he/she left off" ether, they must retake the entire Trial (Yes, I know, we are evil :P).
If the re-trial is also failed, then the potential Knight is de-toggled and will remain a Student. This does not mean that this particular Student is discluded from Knight recommendations and discussions in the future, though. If someone who has failed a Trial is, over time, seen to have grown alot in skill and mentality, then they can indeed be considered to be toggled again.

If a Student fails a Trial AND the Re-Trial, how long must he/she wait before being considered again?

There is no time frame. It is simply a case of observation, just like any other Student. If that Student is seen to possess the skills required to pass a Jedi Knight Trial, then they will be discussed and toggled again.

I really want to help this community by becoming a Jedi Knight, but so far, I have been unable to find a Master who can train me!

Please do NOT be under the impression that "only Padawans are considered for Jedi Knights". This simply isn't true. We've had many Jedi Knights and Jedi Trainers in the past who have never had a Master at all. As long as you go to Classes, are active and are seen to be helpful and respectful, you will stand out to the ranked members. If you attend enough Classes here at the JA, you will learn what you need to learn. :)

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- Virtue. :alliance:

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This post was edited by solitude on Apr 18 2009 11:04pm.

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Apr 11 2009 05:55pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

A Lesson On Secrecy

Jedi Knight Trials

These are secret, because if everybody knew what they were being tested on, they would train specifically to pass the tests themselves rather than training everything else as well.

Troublemaker Details

These are kept secret for two reasons. The first is that we want to keep the place as peaceful and seemingly trouble-free as possible. The second is that it would cause a lot of unnecessary flaming of them and degrade the community.

Jedi Knight Requirements

These haven't been particularly hidden or revealed; they are quite easy to see. Activity is a requirement - when knights are toggled they are active players in the community.

Complaints

These need to be kept private, again, to avoid a public rant and flame about it. There will always be problems and it is easier if you allow us to solve them professionally rather than in front of a demoralised crowd. Remember we are human as well.

Anything Else That's Secret

Anything else that's secret, is not particularly secret. We just try to preserve the mystery for new students and keep everything professional.

This comment was edited by solitude on Apr 18 2009 11:08pm.


May 30 2008 12:20am

Jaiko D'Kana
 - Student
 Jaiko D'Kana

If the community became more active we would certinaly be ready to promote people to possitions. We do take promotion very seriously and enjoy the process very much, however we would hate to be in a situation where the academy became "top heavy", to do so would hinder more than help i believe :)

I think it's great that your taking an active interest, please don't hesitate to ask any more questions :)

-Jai-
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May 28 2008 11:29am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

There never were, but there did used to be a lot more.

May 28 2008 08:51am

Aidan®
 - Aidan
 Aidan®

thanks, theirs not very many Knights compared to students
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Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken.
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May 28 2008 07:57am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Check the About Us page. There are currently 5. :)

May 28 2008 02:10am

Aidan®
 - Aidan
 Aidan®

there doesn't seem to be allot of knights at the academy that ive seen, or maybe their just avoiding me, i know that its a very exclusive group but how many knights are their currently?:D
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Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.


May 27 2008 10:03pm

ShadowJedi
 - Student
 ShadowJedi

Yes , But questions, comments and/or suggestions not silly posts . :)
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May 27 2008 09:59pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

It's fine to post in here if you have questions, comments and/or suggestions, Shadow. :)

May 27 2008 09:52pm

ShadowJedi
 - Student
 ShadowJedi

Guys , I don't want to be rude or something like that , But This is a FAQ-Jedi Knight Trial ,right ? So Don't post on here (my idea) Because The Council, JAM,JAT,JAK already have in their eyes the next JAK . So posting here will not give you a boost . After my opinion will decrease your speed.
As Virtue said in the thread . : Just go to classes ,be helpful... :
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Apr 23 2008 10:26pm

Arashi
 - Student

This excites me

Mar 15 2008 10:05am

Faith
 - Student
 Faith

I am Sith Lord. My morality is fine as long as I am recognized as Emperor.
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Hi..

Mar 11 2008 07:24pm

Artex
 - Student
 Artex

DON'T TOY WITH THE TRIAL SECRETS KOMENCE.
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Sluglife

Mar 11 2008 04:42am

Komence
 - Student
 Komence

secret AND mysterious?!

Aug 11 2007 08:17pm

Carbonel
 - Student

Im scared:(:eek::eek:

Jun 17 2007 06:57pm

IRON SHADOW JEDI
 - Ex-Student
 IRON SHADOW JEDI

wow thanx that cleared alot
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If the person is great, they become Shadow Jedi
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Sep 09 2006 09:42pm

slicer
 - Student
 slicer

oh this all makes sense now! cool, thanx :D :D
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Furneaux

Jun 11 2006 04:33pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

oh this kind of page really exist
*claps claps and more claps*:P
This cleared a lot:D
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Oct 15 2005 09:31pm

Yuken Zalak
 - Student
 Yuken Zalak

And *claps**claps* and more *claps* now this is very nicely organized... Good job... This is a good system... It might sound evil or hard but at least you can smile and say your knights truly knwo what they are doing... Yay... I need to go practise :)... Hehee...
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This comment was edited by Yuken Zalak on Oct 15 2005 09:31pm.

Aug 29 2005 05:28pm

Strider
 - Student
 Strider

Wicked, that answered ALOT of my questions :)
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May 19 2005 11:18am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Info on the process. :)

EDIT: Actually, everything listed above gives you more detail then the link I posted. :P
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This comment was edited by Gradius on May 19 2005 11:26am.

May 19 2005 10:40am

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

but that is not part of the trials, and this is a trial's FAQ ;) There are other places such as the holocron to look on how you get considered to be a JAK
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May 18 2005 07:14pm

Mindrith Pride
 - Student
 Mindrith Pride

yes i agree.. apart from
how are u considered to be a JAK? ^_^
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May 18 2005 01:08am

Hitokiri
 - Student
 Hitokiri

Becoming a Jedi Knight seems to be a difficult feat indeed, just like in the movies. I grade Virtue's FAQ with an A+, because it covers anything I could think of asking and more.
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May 17 2005 07:36pm

Lucky Mintaka
 - Ex-Student
 Lucky Mintaka

word that sounds suitable enough;)
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May 02 2005 02:48pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

Quote:
I remember when the JAT trial was three duels and a five minute interview. :D


rofl
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May 02 2005 10:14am

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Me neither Flash, they just made a lot of fun of me and Leif. You know, if you ever need guys to think of a super evil torture way, you enlist the Council :P
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