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Virtue - Jedi Council  |
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Due to the amount of questions we receive at the JAC Q&A Sessions regarding Trials and Trial Procedures, I decided to write this FAQ.
I will add to it if more questions arise on the matter. 
------ What is involved in a Jedi Knight Trial? Jedi Knight Trials are very secret and only members of the JAK+ know exactly what is involved in one. The only information I will give out concerning what goes on, is that they consist of very precise and challenging tests of Skill, Morality, Mentality and Problem solving. Trials are skill specific, meaning that a Gunner won't be trialled, expecting to be highly skilled with a Lightsaber and/or Dueling. The Trials are engineered to be the ultimate test of an individual's specialty - IE. Gunning, Dueling, Full Force, etc. There are maps that have been built especially for the Trials and the maps themselves are built to test many of the prerequisites of being a Jedi Knight. Where are the Trial Maps and why are there no links to them on the site? See above. Jedi Knight Trials are very secret and mysterious. The only people who have these maps are the JAK+ and Students who are taking the Trials. The maps are sent to 'Trialees' via P2P (Peer To Peer) method (IRC, MSN, AIM, etc.) only minutes before their Trial starts, the maps are NOT uploaded to the website, nor can they be obtained via any hyperlink. Are Students allowed to watch other people being Trialled? No. Why all the secrecy? If everyone knew what was involved in the Trial procedures, the Trials would be made obsolete. People would train specifically just to pass the Trials, people would know about their secrets and answers and would render tests of morality, mentality and problem solving ineffective. Also, the Trials serve as a test of how people behave under extreme, stressful or nervous situations. There is a certain feel/atmosphere around Jedi Knight Trials and taking them which adds to the excitement of them. If everyone knew about them and what was involved in becoming a Jedi Knight - then all of this would be destroyed. The Academy would be made a little less exciting and we wouldn't be sure of the people we were promoting in respect to mentality, admin abuse, spirit and many of the other key things associated with being a Jedi Knight at the JA. How is anyone supposed to pass a Trial if they don't know anything about what is in them? I will not deny that the Jedi Knight Trials are very hard. But at the same time, if you are active in the JA and you attend Classes and/or Padawan sessions frequently, then you will be taught how to do many of the things that are involved in the Trials, we just don't tell you that you are learning Trial material. 
Not only do we teach you to be a better JK3 player, but we subtly teach you how to pass Trials. Each and every Class here at the JA has something different for you to learn about passing a Trial, you just won't know that you're learning it. 
Can you at least tell us about the procedure of Knight selection? That, I can do.
Students at the JA are constantly being evaluated by ranked members, even the freshly new recruits. Not in a very 'official' way, we're not spying on your every movement or anything - rather, we are merely watching how skilled you are, what you have learned from Classes/Padawan Sessions and how well you use the information you have learned. Your attitude and how you interact with other people is also a high factor in this procedure, how helpful you are and how you behave in some of those 'tricky' situations (Eg. When someone is laming, when someone is being offensive/annoying etc.). Don't be fooled by this, though, your input in these situations is neither required or requested - if a JAK+ is dealing with an offender, you are expected to carry on playing as normal - do not get involved. If there are no ranked members present, simply remind the offender of the rules in a diplomatic way whilst taking screenshots/condumps/demos of the offending actions and trying to contact a ranked member immediately. If your actions are found to be worthy of an opportunity for a Jedi Knight Trial, your name will be brought before the entire JAK+ body and you will be discussed. Factors that will influence this discussion are your attitude, skill, activity, your willingness to help others and your presence to most of the ranked members (The 'aura' you give). If, after this discussion, you are found to be a worthy candidate, you are then 'toggled'. What does 'Toggled' mean? 'Toggling' basically means "Your account at the JA has been flagged, opening it up to Trial information". There are four steps to Jedi Knight Trials, being toggled is the first. Once you are toggled, you can take the next step, which is the written exam. This consists of a list of questions for you to answer concerning the JA, the rules and/or policies, various in-game things, etc. Once you have submitted this exam, it is then discussed by the JAK+ and then graded by a JAC. If you get a 'pass' on your exam, you can then take the next step in the Trials.
How long are the Trials? If you mean 'How long are they from the day you are toggled, to the day you become a Jedi Knight', at shortest it can take two to three weeks to complete the entire process, in many cases, it can take a lot longer. There is a lot involved, especially for you.
What happens if someone fails a Trial? If, at any point during the process, a Trial is failed, then the potential Knight is given one more chance to get it right - A 'Re-Trial' is then scheduled no earlier than two weeks after the first initial failure. The potential Knight may not "pick up where he/she left off" ether, they must retake the entire Trial (Yes, I know, we are evil ).
If the re-trial is also failed, then the potential Knight is de-toggled and will remain a Student. This does not mean that this particular Student is discluded from Knight recommendations and discussions in the future, though. If someone who has failed a Trial is, over time, seen to have grown alot in skill and mentality, then they can indeed be considered to be toggled again. If a Student fails a Trial AND the Re-Trial, how long must he/she wait before being considered again? There is no time frame. It is simply a case of observation, just like any other Student. If that Student is seen to possess the skills required to pass a Jedi Knight Trial, then they will be discussed and toggled again. I really want to help this community by becoming a Jedi Knight, but so far, I have been unable to find a Master who can train me! Please do NOT be under the impression that "only Padawans are considered for Jedi Knights". This simply isn't true. We've had many Jedi Knights and Jedi Trainers in the past who have never had a Master at all. As long as you go to Classes, are active and are seen to be helpful and respectful, you will stand out to the ranked members. If you attend enough Classes here at the JA, you will learn what you need to learn.
------ - Virtue. 
_______________ Academy Architect This post was edited by solitude on Apr 18 2009 11:04pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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A Lesson On Secrecy
Jedi Knight Trials These are secret, because if everybody knew what they were being tested on, they would train specifically to pass the tests themselves rather than training everything else as well. Troublemaker Details These are kept secret for two reasons. The first is that we want to keep the place as peaceful and seemingly trouble-free as possible. The second is that it would cause a lot of unnecessary flaming of them and degrade the community. Jedi Knight Requirements These haven't been particularly hidden or revealed; they are quite easy to see. Activity is a requirement - when knights are toggled they are active players in the community. Complaints These need to be kept private, again, to avoid a public rant and flame about it. There will always be problems and it is easier if you allow us to solve them professionally rather than in front of a demoralised crowd. Remember we are human as well. Anything Else That's Secret Anything else that's secret, is not particularly secret. We just try to preserve the mystery for new students and keep everything professional. This comment was edited by solitude on Apr 18 2009 11:08pm. |
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Hitokiri - Student 
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Becoming a Jedi Knight seems to be a difficult feat indeed, just like in the movies. I grade Virtue's FAQ with an A+, because it covers anything I could think of asking and more. _______________ Ph34r m1 1337 5k1llz! |
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Lucky Mintaka - Ex-Student 
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word that sounds suitable enough _______________ Vasper Adept-1600 Comment Raydoe-150 comment Pink -Floyd 425 comment |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: I remember when the JAT trial was three duels and a five minute interview.  rofl _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Kueller - Student 
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Me neither Flash, they just made a lot of fun of me and Leif. You know, if you ever need guys to think of a super evil torture way, you enlist the Council _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Flash - Student 
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I wasn't trialled for JAT....I feel left out. |
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I remember when the JAT trial was three duels and a five minute interview. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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Quote: Nicely done indeed! If you trialled for *duelling*, btw, and you pass and ur a JAK, you havent passed for other disciplines such as *Force/Gunning/Movement*. Can they still teach that, or do they need to pass special trials for those disciplines too? Back when i went through the trials, the trial consists of your skill being tested in all area's, failure in 1 area ment a failed trial, altho u only had to redo the part you failed, hence u passed saber's and failed guns, u only had to redo guns, I think a new system is in place now i aint sure. _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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SaZ - Student 
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nobody is gonna be trialed in those trials. we ALL know they are gonna learn h4x'n'glitches there  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Tigerclaw - Student 
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Quote: Paypal me £60, and I'll tell you all the stuff Virtue DIDN'T tell you! >_> Money is on the way _______________ Geriatric single User, with a touch of Staff now and again. Influenced by Dash Starlight, Jaina. Janus, and Gradius in staff. And in yellow stance. Jaina D'Kana, who really helped me when I first joined the Academy and Jaiko D'Kana, who's classes I took in the begining. Proud owner of _Muro_'s 400th ACK! comment. Avatar by the one and only Majno . Padawan to Dash Starlight |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Nicely done indeed! If you trialled for *duelling*, btw, and you pass and ur a JAK, you havent passed for other disciplines such as *Force/Gunning/Movement*. Can they still teach that, or do they need to pass special trials for those disciplines too? _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Dunn'Canni - Student 
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I really like how the trials mirror the Jedi trials in the SW universe, only in the context of an online game/community. You get an idea of what it meant when Obi Wan said "I am grateful that you think I am ready to face the trials, master". _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: Paypal me £60, and I'll tell you all the stuff Virtue DIDN'T tell you! >_> lol! dont think so... _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Paypal me £60, and I'll tell you all the stuff Virtue DIDN'T tell you! >_> |
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monkai - Student |
thanks for clearing the information up. Always thought you got emailed about yoru exam |
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Dacascos - Lowly Urchin 
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Sure. Ruin all the fun Sete. *Unbans Virtue* _______________ PSN: Argantes XBL: Ravencloak My destiny lies where my fate leads me... |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Note the "or so". |
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Dacascos - Lowly Urchin
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/me is confused. You said the entire proces lasts about 2 to 3 weeks. Yet in the Q&A session you said: (20:34:54) (@Virtue) There are still one or two things that need to be done, but expect to see the first Jedi Knight (Or Trainer) within the next week or so. SO YOU LIED!! BANNED! _______________ PSN: Argantes XBL: Ravencloak My destiny lies where my fate leads me... |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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Wow, thats a much better way of explaining it than I did when people asked me. Good job virty. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Sfire - Student 
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Awesome post..explains alot _______________ |Sfire - Padawan to MOTREC, Gradius| |Owner of Motrec's and Gradius's 999th Comments! Also Smily's 5001 comment and 3th's 1903 comment! Also, cannot forget to mention the proud owner of Gradius' 3000th comment!| |
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Tamal - Student 
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Thanks Virtue, this really clears a lot of things up! _______________ Tamal
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SaZ - Student
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when i joined ja i was thinkin 'i will become a knight!' . now my opinion about that is like... suuuuuuuuuuure... so i guess dreamin of becoming a jak is the first step towards failing. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Apr 24 2005 05:17pm. |
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Phantom - Student 
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Well done Virtue answered many questions _______________ -Phantom Ex-Master to Threat. Proud owner of Sazabi's 1500th comment! And Threats 50th comment "Insanity: a perfect rational adjustment to an insane world" |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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A lot of the time, it's because you've gotten to know people well that you actually become a Padawan of one. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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i will say that the old way, dunno if its still true, padawans of JAK+ did stand a better chance of becoming a JAK+ simply because the staff got to know them better than a normal person due to the master padawan relationship, and before the JAT toggled future knights so it was safer to choose someone that a knight knew very well attitude and person wise etc..... Like i said this might of all changed im a old JAT _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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PlooKoon - Student 
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/me gets first comment Nicely written there virtpoo _______________ Moo |
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