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Jun 05 2005 04:11am

Memphis
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Memphis
Ok, well with me being new and all, I'm sure I'm oblivious to a lot of things that may be going on, but I still feel I have a right to say some of the things I'm about to say from what I've observed. Before I do that just to clear up, although I doubt anyone believes this, I am not saying any of these things to suck to the JAK+. That'd be pretty stupid and get me no where. Anywho here goes.

First off, rules aren't made so you won't have fun, it's so you'll have fun. If everyone was going around swearing/laming/saying racial slurs chances are a lot of people aren't going to have fun. If it's going to cause one person not to have fun, then why do it? Why take someone elses fun away so you can seek more enjoyment for yourself? Is it really worth it? Most people don't even have a problem with this, it's just those select few who get bored with what they're doing. If you get bored and the only way you can enjoy yourself, please leave for your own sake. I doubt this is going to change the world, but if one person reads it and it helps or imparts wisdom to them, than I consider this post accomplishing what I wanted.

The second thing I'd like to address is people who call out everytime someone screws up and breaks a rule, or something minor that could be considered against the rules but possibly isn't. I see this CONSTANTLY, and it bothers me more than the person breaking the rules, at least in a lot of cases. I really believe correction is something you should do in a tell, not in the main chat, it is embarassing and in many cases can help to avoid controversy. And trust me, you're not going to impress a JK+ by picking out every infraction to the point he'll think "this guy really is unb3r, why isn't he JK+." At least by my logic it won't happen. This is for people who do it to jump on every single chance thay get, not for those whom are really trying to help others out. I'm sure that the JK+ appreciate oldbies helping keep order but when people go overboard that's what I'm talking about.

I'm really sorry if this offends anyone, if it causes any trouble I will delete it. I can only hope that it can create a better place for truly the greatest community I've been able to take part in. I am always willing to admit I am wrong on these viewpoints if a valid arguement is presented, so please, speak up! Constructive criticism is good!

Sincerely yours,
Memphis
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Jun 16 2005 05:57am

Memphis
 - Student
 Memphis

Again, it's for the kind of people that look for others mistake, not those that are doing it so as to help the person and not to satisfy theirselves because the just experienced a false sense of authority. It's sad that people get entertainment from this, but let's be realistic some do. But good point Tido at any rate.
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Jun 10 2005 03:28am

Tido
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 Tido

Don't forget the JAK+ need you're help in these situations. That's what this post is all about. Get the JAK+ involved, it's their job.

Jun 09 2005 03:06pm

angel
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 angel

well everything has allready ben sayed so i will just say nice very nice work i agree sooo much i will do everything i can to help you all i such matters
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This comment was edited by angel on Jun 09 2005 03:08pm.

Jun 09 2005 03:10am

sm00th!
 - Student
 sm00th!

Quote:
I think we can all take an active roll in keeping this place running as smoothly as possible.;)


I especially will do my part to run this place... sm00thly.
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Jun 08 2005 11:07pm

bono_bob
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I wont necessary report you right away if you do one little thing, but I will be guranteed to bring it up, and probally wont bother with telling, as I have just recently learned to use such a thing. Alot people consider differents thing little things, but I have been corrected for simply atacking with a roll stab in a duel with my saber sheathed ( after we both bowed I ran up with my saber sheated and entered a roll stab ) and some of the new comers do not even bow, and lots the time I don't even bring it up (which in my opinion I should) If you consider quickly laming a singel person, or doing 'only' one thing that isnt really a big deal, well im not going to make a 'big deal' out of it but I am sure going to bring it out in the main chat, because I don't see why I should have to run around looking for your character to give you a private message ( yes there isa console command but with some names its a pain in a butt to do them) on what you did, when you don't even consider it a 'big deal' anyways (see the irony here, its not a big deal so you dont want it brought up in the main channel, but on the other hand the person has to put mroe work into it to make it seem like it is not a big deal, when really if its not a big deal, it should be calmy said out loud with no worries, ok maybe irony was the wrong word) Now it is not my job to go on a rant like this, but the rules you read to go on the server, if you break the rule and someone brings it up to you outloud, just say you are sorry. Be glad that the academy doesnt just ban for breaking rules ( Well they will if you go WAY too far and will not adjust according to how you are asked to stop )

Anyhow sorry for my rant, what I am trying to say is that it is basicly our responsability as a community to bring it up to someone every time they break a rule. At least a rule listed in the rules sections, there are other customs that may not be in the rule sections where people will be offended and may still bring it up, and don't be surprise if they do or give a "its not a big deal" or a whatever, well you can give a little bit of whatever I guess, just make sure to say sorry. Saying sorry acknowledges that you at least to some extent care and that you do not want to cause trouble. (For real life peopel may say sorry left and right, but on video games saying sorry actauly requires giving up some pride, to actauly let your self be in the position of saying you give a 2 cents worth, and actaully for real life sorry will always mean something, because you are still at least letting your self say sorry, and the fact alone that you care or not if the other person is upset.)

Again sorry for my rant, have a great day everyoen and remember, there are rules for a reason ( and not ment to be broken either )
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Jun 08 2005 04:33pm

Khâ D'Kana
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 Khâ D'Kana

Well done mate :)

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Jun 08 2005 02:42pm

Tallepyon
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 Tallepyon

Quote:
The second thing I'd like to address is people who call out everytime someone screws up and breaks a rule, or something minor that could be considered against the rules but possibly isn't. I see this CONSTANTLY, and it bothers me more than the person breaking the rules, at least in a lot of cases. I really believe correction is something you should do in a tell, not in the main chat, it is embarassing and in many cases can help to avoid controversy. And trust me, you're not going to impress a JK+ by picking out every infraction to the point he'll think "this guy really is unb3r, why isn't he JK+." At least by my logic it won't happen. This is for people who do it to jump on every single chance thay get, not for those whom are really trying to help others out. I'm sure that the JK+ appreciate oldbies helping keep order but when people go overboard that's what I'm talking about.


I couldnt agree anymore. I have been feeling the same way lately.

Jun 08 2005 12:08pm

Kainz00r
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 Kainz00r

You've expressed the minds of many. Well written by the way, impressive.
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Jun 08 2005 11:57am

Jaiko D'Kana
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 Jaiko D'Kana

Great post :) You make some very good and valid points.

-JaikoD'Kana-
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Jun 08 2005 07:51am

Memphis
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 Memphis

Yah I agree, once we see more JAK+ things should change, but isn't that bad already. It's just those small percentage of problem people that raise the issue just far enough for it to be addressed. I really feel that posts like this shouldn't mention names, just like the way I said if someone breaks a rule or something whisper them, it's really not anyone's business and I wouldn't want that person being mad at me, things like that can be personal to others.
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Jun 08 2005 06:03am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

I think things like this need to be addressed. It's good that you explain it the way you do. It's just a general statement, not shooting anyone down. I think the JA will straighten out slowly but surely as the JAC appoint more JAK+. Until then I think we can all take an active roll in keeping this place running as smoothly as possible.;)
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Jun 05 2005 08:12pm

Tamal
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 Tamal

Yes, indeed well done. I agree completely :)

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Jun 05 2005 05:25pm

sm00th!
 - Student
 sm00th!

Quote:

I'm really sorry if this offends anyone


you have offended me, i demand retribution. ;)
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Jun 05 2005 05:12pm

Phantom
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 Phantom

Nice thoughts man. I agree and Im glad that finally someone stepped up to say something :)
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Jun 05 2005 12:44pm

PlooKoon
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 PlooKoon

Nice thoughts mate :) and I agree.
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Jun 05 2005 10:55am

Thomasooo
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 Thomasooo

Very good post indeed! Great observations! It's nice to see that at least some of the new members keep their eyes open. :)
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Jun 05 2005 10:35am

Henkes
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 Henkes

Nicely done Memphis :D
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Jun 05 2005 04:18am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Nice observation, and well explained. :D

Jun 05 2005 04:15am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Very good post Memphis. For someone who has been in the JA for such a short time, you've caught on to alot of problems, and I'm glad you're at least taking a step to help them instead of ignoring them. Well done. :)
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