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Jun 06 2005 07:39pm

Eica
 - Student
Eica
Hi everyone.

I'm new here, and I like the idea of this academy community. I'm just a bit stuck and I don't know where to start. :(

Can you explain what goes on here, or lead me to a page that does, thanks :)
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Jun 08 2005 10:05pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Quote:
And yeah, now you've probably chosen to follow the path in hope of reaching JAK+hood i'm assuming. Before you start your long and likely never-ending journey, please consider what it means to be a JAK beforehand. A JAK is not a title to prove you have the skill to teach others, no, it is very different here at the JA.

To begin with, your main role is to act as an enforcer and general over-seer of ongoing events here at the Academy and keep the hierarchy informed. As well as this, you would also need to be competent enough to responisbly use the priviledges you receive as a knight. This requires both maturity and good insight, such as looking deeper into situations and not just insta-banning Masta for being too leet. At first this sounds awesome, and you may think to yourself, "Well, that sounds awesome! I can handle that." Think harder again, to be sure. At times it isn't a hassle, but at other times you'll get fools, let's use the example Kain, running about the place starting fires and rebellion and whatnot. Now, Kain is only having a bit of fun, however what he doesn't realise is that he may be producing a side effect of negatively imposing on the fun of others and disrupting the usual order of the JA, or giving off a false impression to those who don't know him. Situations like these can be a pain to deal with, and your going to have to be strict. Kindness won't do, some people just won't listen. As well as this, in time it is inevitable you will earn friends here at the JA, but what if they too step out of line? Your going to have to explain to them their wrongs of the JA. Sometimes, it'll be a polite reminder, although on occassion it can be a tough dirty job.

Moving on, you will also likely be teaching a class I presume, being an adept of JA and wishing to pass on your skills. Therefore, you would ask the hierarchy to place your class on the classes page. This bit sounds like the real gold yeah? True. The feeling you get when your teachings are appreciated is awesome, and you wan't to continue teaching due to it. Everyone's happy. However, classes almost never run smoothly. No. As many times as you tell them, people may not sit still, or feel the need to comment on almost every line spoken by yourself, which although relevant is not required and takes away from the time in your class, or provokes other distractions. Your going to have to tell these people off, and in some cases watch their young smiles of happyness turn to "=(". No one ever said it was going be pretty. Also, you may have late comers to your class, say, 20 minutes late. What if you've just spent those previous 20 minutes teaching a technique to the students who didn't show up late, and are now issuing practise of it? This guy's going to be quite clueless if he isn't already familiar with your class or the move. I ask you now, what would you do in this situation? Do you take him aside and let the other students practise on their own and teach him in the time they practise, or turn him down so as you can keep a keen eye on the practise of your students to ensure they don't pick up bad habits which are hard to iron out early on in the progression of their styles? This can be a difficult decision for some who don't like to turn down individuals, however in this case i'm afraid it must be done. Why? Well, regardless of the latecomers reason for lateness, those other students went out of their way to show up on time, they deserve the attenttion in my opinion. But hey, that doesn't mean you can have a 1on1 session with the latecomer another time right? As well as these, your going to have the people with ants in their pants. The ones who feel the inexplicable urge to wallrun as soon as you's hit a matrix room for practise. The ones who must jump on another players head, or run about randomly swinging their saber. Your going to have to tell these guys off too. There's more attention lost on the topic at hand, and time for teaching lost.

Forums. A member of the JAK+ is also going to need to be active on the forums, and perhaps other methods of communication such as mIRC could be beneficial in many ways. You will need to be up to date with ongoing issues of discussion and now and again offer a helping hand to those crying out for it, because after all that is your job. You may also receive numerous requests for padawanship because everyone wants a master to learn from, a teacher to show them the right path, so as one day they can finally rival the skill of the master. However, you can't have too many padawans. How could you juggle your real life, classes, forum checking, and other padawans if you had groups of them? No, the relationship could never be close enough to be in the nature of master-padawan with that many, you'd fall out of sync with individuals inevitably.

JAK+ Etiquette. "Hey there role model, I wana be just like you one day." As a member of the JAK+, you are going to influence those who lack status and recognition around you, as well as many others. You represent how students of the JA should aspire to be. Fair play you may think... being looked up to and all that, but this also entails extreme responsibility. This may restrict how you would naturally act otherwise in certain situations which are shadowed by the rules, or perhaps an "unwritten rule" and cast a gray area. Role models should never risk setting a bad example.

And after a brief pause there, i've lost my point of thought, heh. Well, I think I covered most things which I felt needed to expressed. I hope this gives you some insight to the path I assume you may be considering.

Edit: You already replied during the creation of this post, /sigh. :p Nevermind then =)

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Married to Kain.


Jun 08 2005 09:36pm

bono_bob
 - Student

the knight is not necessary a position of honor (well it can be an honor of course) its is a position of responsability, a student can be just as remember or even more than a knight, you should not fret about being a knight or not. ( althouhg in my opinion we do need more knights )
Anyhow, WELCOME TO THE ACADEMY!!!
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"Darkness is simply the absence of Light"
"Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?"
"Is there a limit to Light?"
- Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy )


Jun 08 2005 06:43pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

The best advice one can give you if you wish to become a Knight, is not to try to. Just hang around, have fun, be a good person, follow the rules. Be yourself. If after an appropriate amount of time has passed and you uphold specific qualities that we look for in our Knights, you shall be considered. :)
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Jun 08 2005 12:32am

Selph Senatu
 - Student
 Selph Senatu

Welcome! If you need anything ASK ME! NO ONE ELSE!

Jun 07 2005 11:03pm

Attius Kaar
 - Student
 Attius Kaar

Hey welcome! ill help you out in anyway you need it.. im not very good but its a start lol



Jun 07 2005 09:42pm

Serra Keto
 - Student
 Serra Keto

Oh hehe the frist time I've been quoted! :)
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You were everything I wanted, but we lost it. I'm Not going away.

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Jun 07 2005 09:01pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Quote:
Ah you'd be so lucky to get a rank at the moment alot of change is going on and you don't get ranked only becuase you're good at playing; alot of other stuff is taken into account, or so they say, go look here.

http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=12134

Well the link above is more about the trials then how they choose people. The one below will give you an idea. Although most of them now have been removed or retired :)

http://www.thejediacademy.net/holocron_detail_page.php?f_id=23


There you go :)
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Jun 07 2005 08:53pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Erm, please re-read Kains post and while you are at it, read the links which Heto was so kind to post as well.
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This comment was edited by Masta on Jun 07 2005 08:53pm.

Jun 07 2005 07:23pm

Rinzler
 - Student
 Rinzler

Welcome to the JA
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I fite for teh usars!1

Jun 07 2005 07:00pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Well, only Jedi Academy Trainers (JAT) and above are allowed to teach classes. Students are in no way allowed to hold classes. If people ask for your advice, then you are more than welcome to lend them a hand and train them if that's what they want. :)

Students can have *unofficial* padawans, that's if anyone would like to. Most students prefer to have ranked members be their masters though. And yes, you must be a Jedi Academy Knight (JAK) or above to have an official padawan. :)
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Jun 07 2005 06:08pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Well written, sir.

/second
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Married to Kain.


Jun 07 2005 05:59pm

Kainz00r
 - Jedi Knight
 Kainz00r

And yeah, now you've probably chosen to follow the path in hope of reaching JAK+hood i'm assuming. Before you start your long and likely never-ending journey, please consider what it means to be a JAK beforehand. A JAK is not a title to prove you have the skill to teach others, no, it is very different here at the JA.

To begin with, your main role is to act as an enforcer and general over-seer of ongoing events here at the Academy and keep the hierarchy informed. As well as this, you would also need to be competent enough to responisbly use the priviledges you receive as a knight. This requires both maturity and good insight, such as looking deeper into situations and not just insta-banning Masta for being too leet. At first this sounds awesome, and you may think to yourself, "Well, that sounds awesome! I can handle that." Think harder again, to be sure. At times it isn't a hassle, but at other times you'll get fools, let's use the example Kain, running about the place starting fires and rebellion and whatnot. Now, Kain is only having a bit of fun, however what he doesn't realise is that he may be producing a side effect of negatively imposing on the fun of others and disrupting the usual order of the JA, or giving off a false impression to those who don't know him. Situations like these can be a pain to deal with, and your going to have to be strict. Kindness won't do, some people just won't listen. As well as this, in time it is inevitable you will earn friends here at the JA, but what if they too step out of line? Your going to have to explain to them their wrongs of the JA. Sometimes, it'll be a polite reminder, although on occassion it can be a tough dirty job.

Moving on, you will also likely be teaching a class I presume, being an adept of JA and wishing to pass on your skills. Therefore, you would ask the hierarchy to place your class on the classes page. This bit sounds like the real gold yeah? True. The feeling you get when your teachings are appreciated is awesome, and you wan't to continue teaching due to it. Everyone's happy. However, classes almost never run smoothly. No. As many times as you tell them, people may not sit still, or feel the need to comment on almost every line spoken by yourself, which although relevant is not required and takes away from the time in your class, or provokes other distractions. Your going to have to tell these people off, and in some cases watch their young smiles of happyness turn to "=(". No one ever said it was going be pretty. Also, you may have late comers to your class, say, 20 minutes late. What if you've just spent those previous 20 minutes teaching a technique to the students who didn't show up late, and are now issuing practise of it? This guy's going to be quite clueless if he isn't already familiar with your class or the move. I ask you now, what would you do in this situation? Do you take him aside and let the other students practise on their own and teach him in the time they practise, or turn him down so as you can keep a keen eye on the practise of your students to ensure they don't pick up bad habits which are hard to iron out early on in the progression of their styles? This can be a difficult decision for some who don't like to turn down individuals, however in this case i'm afraid it must be done. Why? Well, regardless of the latecomers reason for lateness, those other students went out of their way to show up on time, they deserve the attenttion in my opinion. But hey, that doesn't mean you can have a 1on1 session with the latecomer another time right? As well as these, your going to have the people with ants in their pants. The ones who feel the inexplicable urge to wallrun as soon as you's hit a matrix room for practise. The ones who must jump on another players head, or run about randomly swinging their saber. Your going to have to tell these guys off too. There's more attention lost on the topic at hand, and time for teaching lost.

Forums. A member of the JAK+ is also going to need to be active on the forums, and perhaps other methods of communication such as mIRC could be beneficial in many ways. You will need to be up to date with ongoing issues of discussion and now and again offer a helping hand to those crying out for it, because after all that is your job. You may also receive numerous requests for padawanship because everyone wants a master to learn from, a teacher to show them the right path, so as one day they can finally rival the skill of the master. However, you can't have too many padawans. How could you juggle your real life, classes, forum checking, and other padawans if you had groups of them? No, the relationship could never be close enough to be in the nature of master-padawan with that many, you'd fall out of sync with individuals inevitably.

JAK+ Etiquette. "Hey there role model, I wana be just like you one day." As a member of the JAK+, you are going to influence those who lack status and recognition around you, as well as many others. You represent how students of the JA should aspire to be. Fair play you may think... being looked up to and all that, but this also entails extreme responsibility. This may restrict how you would naturally act otherwise in certain situations which are shadowed by the rules, or perhaps an "unwritten rule" and cast a gray area. Role models should never risk setting a bad example.

And after a brief pause there, i've lost my point of thought, heh. Well, I think I covered most things which I felt needed to expressed. I hope this gives you some insight to the path I assume you may be considering.

Edit: You already replied during the creation of this post, /sigh. :p Nevermind then =)
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Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta.

This comment was edited by Kainz00r on Jun 07 2005 06:10pm.

Jun 07 2005 05:35pm

Serra Keto
 - Student
 Serra Keto

Yay!

:D

Fun!
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You were everything I wanted, but we lost it. I'm Not going away.

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Jun 07 2005 05:15pm

Serra Keto
 - Student
 Serra Keto

Ah you'd be so lucky to get a rank at the moment alot of change is going on and you don't get ranked only becuase you're good at playing; alot of other stuff is taken into account, or so they say, go look here.

http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=12134

Well the link above is more about the trials then how they choose people. The one below will give you an idea. Although most of them now have been removed or retired :)

http://www.thejediacademy.net/holocron_detail_page.php?f_id=23
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You were everything I wanted, but we lost it. I'm Not going away.

http://jediknight2.filefront.com/file/Deuces_Wild_Pack_2;45812


This comment was edited by Serra Keto on Jun 07 2005 05:32pm.

Jun 07 2005 04:24pm

Tamal
 - Student
 Tamal

Welcome to the JA! Have fun and hope to see you on the servers soon.
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Tamal
:alliance::alliance::alliance:


Jun 07 2005 04:17pm

Majno
 - Padawan
 Majno

Hey, Welcome to the Academy, enjoy your stay, feel free to ask whatever...:)
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" You've just taken your first steps into a larger world. " - Ben.

Jun 07 2005 03:22pm

Henkes
 - Student
 Henkes

Welcome aboard, if there's anything, drop me a comment on my profile!
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Get on your feet and do the Funky Alfonzo!

Jun 07 2005 04:34am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Welcome to the Jedi Academy. :)

Jun 07 2005 03:32am

JA > Yun
 - Student
 JA > Yun

Welcome!
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Bringing newbies closer to perfection since 1998.

Jun 07 2005 12:41am

bono_bob
 - Student

Welcome to the academy, now for my tip of wisdom:
The servers with JA in them are not actally the game jedi academy, they are JK2 confusing as it is. You wanna check out the JK3 home server files, IP and password.
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"Darkness is simply the absence of Light"
"Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?"
"Is there a limit to Light?"
- Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy )


Jun 07 2005 12:36am

Thomasooo
 - Student
 Thomasooo

Welcome to the Academy! :D

If you follow Gradius' tips, you won't feel so lost. :)
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Recipient of comment no. 1000 and heart-warming words from Ataris! :)


Jun 06 2005 09:35pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

Quote:
Welcome to the JA. Yeah its a bit to take in at first, but before too long you'll be doin laps around this place.


well, thats what he likes doin', eh Vas? :P
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- Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world

Jun 06 2005 09:32pm

Vasper Ba'xian
 - Student
 Vasper Ba'xian

Welcome to the JA. Yeah its a bit to take in at first, but before too long you'll be doin laps around this place. Ohh and ahhh, if Gradius confuses you about anything, don't hold it against him.........hes a staffer!;)

Or was????
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This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Jun 06 2005 09:33pm.

Jun 06 2005 08:06pm

Pink_Mintaka
 - Student
 Pink_Mintaka

Welcome, what problems do you have? what do you need? I will gladly help you out;)


Well, i guess gradius got it down.

This comment was edited by Pink_Mintaka on Jun 06 2005 08:07pm.

Jun 06 2005 08:06pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Hi, first let me welcome you to the Jedi Academy. :) We're a community based on teaching people how to play the Jedi Knight games, moreso Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. Alot of information you'll need is in our Holocron. Also, please remember to read our Rules. If you wish, check out our Servers and our Classes. Any other questions, please feel free to ask. :)
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


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