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Glenn - Student |
Does anyone know how can you beat the yellow stance attack <left swing< >right swing> <left swing< >right swing> I can never seem to beat it, even if i do it myself. I mean for single saber yellow stance. Dual and staff i also have the same problem, but i can use red stance to cut through those. |
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SaZ - Student 
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i think he already knows how to counter scissors - look at thread creation date  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Ataris - Milwaukees Finest 
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or just take classes instead of asking around in here? and learn by yourself, experiment, it'll be more rewarding, and you'll learn a lot more useful stuff too..  Just a thought.-Ataris <3 _______________ [ Honorable mentions: aph3x | Milamber | Bail Hope Belouve | Jaiko D'Kana | Rosered | JediEthic | Mike/JJ/TheKing | Kensei | Dane | Gradius | Thomas Skywalker | Pink Floyd | Setementor | Steinin | Odan-Wei ] [ Owner of: MetaDust's 500th comment! | Eica's 700th comment! | Pink Floyd's 666th, 999th, 1200th and 1337th comment! | DarkRyu's 400th comment! | Redeye's 1st comment! | Cow's 1111st comment! | Rufusan's 75th comment! | Wicek's 3300th and 3400th comment! | Dash Starlight's 2000th comment! | Piccolo's 3400th comment! | Takaru's 300th comment! | Senor Hat's 900th comment! | Rytandus' 4160th comment! | The first ever awarded, the original, the one and only, Catphin Award!!1 ] "Music expresses that which can not be put in to words but can not remain silent." |
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JK13 /// jaws. - Student 
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simple.... grab staff, do right+fwd+attack, left+foreward+attack, repeat  _______________ It's a false hologram, it IS artificial... |
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Threat - Student 
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I will say that I am no saber god or yellow expert. I also imagine that people might not agree with my opinions, but here is what I think I have learned in my time in the JA on this subject. Like someone may have said, I believe the move you are speaking of is what we call yellow scissors. It is a very effective move when used properly. When I say properly, I mean not spammed and at the appropriate time. On the JA servers, I don't know of too many people that spam it all the time. Someone said that you can roll stab them or DFA them, which I don't think will work for you very well. A DFA is likely to get you killed by the followup scissors. Keep in mind that the scissors does not have a long "delay". It's simply five at most quick horizontal swings chained. They can then be started again pretty soon after the last scissors. Also, the person can bail out of the scissors in the middle easily. So when you are in the delay after your DFA or roll stab, they have recovered and are stepping into you with scissors or something worse. Also keep in mind that some people can perform the advancing scissors well. They can actually chase you down...performing scissors as they move forward. Again, nasty in the right circumstances. My advice to you is: first, learn scissors yourself. Plenty of people on JA servers will help get you started. I have been told that one method of fighting scissors actually uses your own scissors. Second, take a JA class on yellow stance. Virt and Company do a good job of teaching the concepts of fighting with and against yellow. Last, make sure you know your red swing timing and punish them with some of the techniques already discussed. Basically, join us on the servers and we'll help!! Hope that helps a little. _______________ - Threat Ex-Unofficial Padawan of Rivian, AKA Chaos Ex-Unofficial Padawan of Phantom Owner of Grycen's 180th comment, Raydoe's 455th comment, and Rivian's EVIL 666th comment! |
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Bo - Student 
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I was being sarcastic, its how just bout everyone plays lol. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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You would be suprised bo =) _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Sep 10 2005 07:39pm. |
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Bo - Student
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Quote: How about not attacking it at all? at a serten point your opponent will lose patience and when that happens mistakes are quickly made, at that point you are in control. When you do attack, never stick to close for to long and mainly use red stance. HAHAHAHAHA...Nobody from the JA playes like that, do they? ROFL _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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SaZ - Student 
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lol i saw some players who beaten me like that. its just they were really pros at aiming with that swing. i bet they used it for like a long time. ofcourse im not a very good player so hmmm... _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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I really would like to see someone whos able to win on a constant basis whilst just spamming overheads. It just isnt effective enough against experienced players. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: i wouldn't say that going left right etc etc etc is spamming just a simple effective combo like if red had a fast swing that did like 100+ dmg everytime then people would use it. the best way to counter this yellow move is to simply not get hit dodge it and move out of the way and ur oppent will release that thats not going to hit u and should with some luck they should change their style think again. why ppl use red stance? coz it deals lots of damage. in pubs there are lots of ppl who spam overhead red stance swing. thats legit but ... *cough* _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Kano - Student 
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i wouldn't say that going left right etc etc etc is spamming just a simple effective combo like if red had a fast swing that did like 100+ dmg everytime then people would use it. the best way to counter this yellow move is to simply not get hit dodge it and move out of the way and ur oppent will release that thats not going to hit u and should with some luck they should change their style _______________ Is back and badder then ever |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Yes, not attacking at all is a very cool way to win. It reminds me of staffers who dont do anything at all besides running around in circles, waiting for you to swing and press their attack button once in 3minutes. Effective? Yes. Legit? Yes. Fun? Hell no. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Quom Farlance - Student 
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How about not attacking it at all? at a serten point your opponent will lose patience and when that happens mistakes are quickly made, at that point you are in control. When you do attack, never stick to close for to long and mainly use red stance. _______________ Proud owner of Wicek's 2400th comment!Mindrith Pride's 1200th comment!Alex's 3100th comment!obi's 700th comment! "The measure of a truly great man is the courtesy with which he treats lesser men." |
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SaZ - Student
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after reading leifs post i just remember what im using to defeat yellow spammers  ok so yes be defensive. that means no aerials(well if you are very accurate with them then do them!). try to lure them in to your swings with your movement and delayed red stance swings instawin...but only if opponent is totaly yellow spammer(no brain at all i mean) _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Quote: Also, I find that using diagonals at the end of swings can really help you at times when your opponent is retreating. Extremly stylish and very effective yellow tactic there.Take notes guys! =D _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Fire - Student 
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In my experience, I've experimented and used all four of the different yellow stance diagonal swings and mixed them up a bit with the horizontal swings to create a great defensive factor. Also, I find that using diagonals at the end of swings can really help you at times when your opponent is retreating. This works well against these types on duelists on both BaseJK and JAR. It's much more effective on JAR however. With red stance fighting yellow stance on the JAR mod, is like Masta said, be super defensive. Pretty much just watch them at all times and don't lose focus or else the next thing you know, you'll be down to 10 hp. Oh yeah, and delays work wonderfully against them as the timing is completely screwed up for them once you use delays. Be careful though, these can delays go pretty slowly, so be sure to time them right. As I've stated before quite some time ago, the mind is key to defeating your opponent. Each time you lose against them, you pick up something new about their fighting style which brings you one step closer to figuring them out. Try and make it so that you are the one in control of the duel, not your opponent. Manipulation of your opponent's mind is a good tactic as well. This comment was edited by Fire on Jul 05 2005 05:25pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Quote: well pretty everyone in academy spams yellow Which is a great shame imo.Ive been asking myself why they do that a month ago and came to a few conclusions but yea...a shame nevertheless. Well, bono_bob if you never had any difficulties in beating yellow spammers, then i would like to see you visiting the JA servers more often.Its not like you actually could lunge, kata or rdfa them.Its not really easy to just slice them up with red neither, since they just gonna wait for the gap in your swing and advance into it whilst doing 1-2 swings and backing out immediately without taking any dmg at all. Playing defensive is your best guess though.Using things like aerials and delays to trick your opponent work as well. Or you just grab staff =P _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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SaZ - Student
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well pretty everyone in academy spams yellow but there are differences between everyones fighting style. timing... reflexes... movement... ofcourse you can just forget those and be pure yellow spammer... kthxban _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Ecks - Student 
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Just be patient. I would try an upwards diagonal swing and drag it through them, repeat again and again. It's a pretty noobish tactic, but anyone who spams yellow in that way deserves to be noobed. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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bono_bob - Student |
the maneuver you discuss.. I never really had a problem with that move, i mean they arnt even really going anywhere when doing that move, and its much easier to out maneuver, out thinking or just out do than compared to a jumping jedi who the only time he is on the ground is when he is doing a dirty red stance slice. (that is my ultimate weakness that I can think) I really don't know what the dance is ( I might do it and don't know it or do a maneuver of my own for all I know ) but red slices could easily deal with that, or just standing back and watchign the swing fiercely into the air until they get bored and try something else, or if your really sneaky you could try catching them off gaurd with a roll stab or kata, while they are in the middle of it ( not highly suggested ) Also you could try the lunge (with blue stand hold crouch and press forward + atack ) Heh, if they are just literally repeating that move over and over and over and over and you still can't figure anything out, just butterfly or Red stance DFA them. (the red DFA does leave you highly open) Or if you are feeling a bit courageus, and basicly they are looking out for all of the moves or tricks I suggested ( and basicly imediately stop what they are doing and get out of the way) you could examine the exact slice speed of the atack and try to perfectly time a kick in there. ( not really worth it but I am sure you will get a 'kick' out of it ) _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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SaZ - Student
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just ask ppl to teach you the dance and stuff like that and you gonna be allright _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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DarthMike - Student 
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I think they can only swing it 5 times, after that just go at them with a red swing. Or, even better, just use a staff and do that scissor which is even better. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy This comment was edited by DarthMike on Jul 01 2005 08:11am. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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It's all about your movement and where you're aiming. Don't let that Scissor hit you! Let them make the first move, however evil that may sound. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Just parry the attacks. Or, wait for the 5th swing to end, then attack. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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On JAR, use staff =) You could use aerials with red stance as well though.To predict your opponents movement whilst remaining unpredictable yourself is the key to victory. Red works pretty good against yellow on unmodded servers since yellow's range is generally shorter then on JAR. In any case, try to predict your opponents movement and strike when they dont expect it.Aerials and delays with red stance help there a lot. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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