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-=Nomad=- - Student  |
http://www.petitiononline.com/sd5a1492/petition.html here's the petition to see jka as an official discipline  i think the game we all love has his place in !-=Nomad=- _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the [url=http://www.thejediacademy.net/show_profile.php?f_id=4651]Odan's wei[/url]...  Brother to [url=http://www.thejediacademy.net/show_profile.php?f_id=8129]Solitude[/url]  Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This post was edited by -=Nomad=- on Jul 14 2005 02:55am. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
I just read that petition.... how about making a *persuading* petition? That was just a little plead, as far as I could tell. :s |
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SaZ - Student 
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90 votes? hahah you need like 2000 at minimum. dont think im laughing of you nomad. its just funny  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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OK I signed =) *sighs* Sploits aren't going anywhere. Just get used to em. Their even poppin up all ove the academy. My rule: If someone does it to you, then spam spin and poke on em. When they get mad and call u a noob, say "You started it!. lol" _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Wow, you people managed to turn this into an exploits-discussion. Paranoia 1 - Reason 0, you win a prize! Anyways, back on topic, I won't be signing that petition, as: 1) PetitionOnline does not work. No, it doesn't. No. Just... no. 2) I bet it'll be like the ClanBase ladder where in the end, it ended up having horribly biased rules, ie for CTF: "saber only, 20 caplimit, 30 minutes", etcetera. |
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AvaloN - Student 
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Quote: Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch. LoL. Dude, you know as well as I do that there's not going to be another patch. Cant blame one for hoping m8 |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Quote: Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch. LoL. Dude, you know as well as I do that there's not going to be another patch. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch. in their eyes I bet nothing is wrong ... And anyway we should participate ... it would be a good advertisement for the JA _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Tido - Student 
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Might be the only shot in the world of motivating LA to make a patch. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: I wont state anything here anymore because i obviously:
Quote: but i think u dont understand nothing at poke i totally agree with it because i didnt knew that: Quote: , just poke u too and u block it ^^ and: Quote: what i call realistic is the FACT U DO MORE DAMAGE IN GAME DOING IT oh and of course: Quote: parrying is an exploit So all in all i am: Quote: you r totally wrong ps: I wont vote since i think its a bad idea. pwned _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Lancer007 - Student 
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yeah and this is why people shouldn't take games seariously regardless if it's a tournament or not. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Well, I personally think it's a bad idea. Waaaaay too much competition for a silly game, which is why people in the JKA community have lost complete respect for eachother. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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I wont state anything here anymore because i obviously:
Quote: but i think u dont understand nothing at poke i totally agree with it because i didnt knew that: Quote: , just poke u too and u block it ^^ and: Quote: what i call realistic is the FACT U DO MORE DAMAGE IN GAME DOING IT oh and of course: Quote: parrying is an exploit So all in all i am: Quote: you r totally wrong ps: I wont vote since i think its a bad idea. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Jul 15 2005 07:59pm. |
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SaZ - Student
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even if we love this game its not the one we should recommend in to some electronic sport championship... your stance dude is like lots of others - they cant admit they are cheating. i wouldnt admit too if i had spent all life cheating and cheating process would be like habit for me. i couldnt do anything. most of ppl like to be pros at gamin in one day. they see poke and whoa i will rule. doh whatever.... virtue will look here and lock this thread no doubt. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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-=Nomad=- - Student 
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last thing : the topic was jka at eswc, it would be great if it wuld only do that job, so i agree with ya, nevermind pokin or not pokin, that isnt the question , those who like the idea: PLEASE SIGN IT AND GIVE IT TO UR FRIENDS !!!! thx ;o) _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! |
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-=Nomad=- - Student 
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ridiclous ???? lol explain ? and , about realistic aspect or not... do u think not being able to make scissors in red is ? a GAME ISNT REALISTIC. exploits ? i repeat it : parrying is , and what about the jump smash and the delays ??? to end, some precision : i dont remember if i ve precised that i ( and is not the only one ) use a bowl mouse , my difficulty with poke isnt to make the saber comes back in the opposite direction of the swing, it's to time it : shakin like a mad will not help ! make the saber comes back is enough ^^ and another one : high sense will only make u spin , which is typical of a wrong poke that leave u open... _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! |
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AvaloN - Student 
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Quote: first sentence of mastas comment really makes sense I agree m8. Its indeed part of the game, but it looks ridiculous and its far from realistic. PLus it makes dueling boring. Also, isnt it so that saber types have a certain damage cap per swing (heard yellow had a cap of 70), and that u can only exceed it with exploits? Not sure if this is true tho. Anyways, if people do it, im not gonna make a big deal about it. Maybe if a guy just started playing JK:JA and doesnt know he is exploiting, i would explain him the Academy's stance on it. Ill stop babbling now |
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-=Nomad=- - Student
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you r totally wrong 1st) when u move ur mouse, not only ur head move, but the whole body of the model 2) u can sway in life: just move ur shoulders ( but do u ever used a saber in rl , i did ! ) 3) u can poke just like in game, but ok it wont be efficient, what i call realistic is the FACT U DO MORE DAMAGE IN GAME DOING IT 4) parrying is an exploit : why does a parry deliver more damage than the same combo without parrying ( in rl it would deliver less : u use a BUG ) 5) when did u see a poke kills u in 1 hit at each time ?????? , just poke u too and u block it ^^ 6) pokin with high sense is noobish : u cant aim, good pokers plays with down sense ( but i think u dont understand nothing at poke )information many pokers use mouses with the bowl ( i do )so, if u need hardware to do it ur wrong, just train urself ^^ 7)"Thats why "Dureal is a noob ?????????" wins so often, he knows how and when to move in and not because hes so extremly skillful at wiggling his mouse." that's what i say : u cant win only with shakin ur mouse... 8) why do u think the eswc would b filled by pokers, i know some great players that dont do it in the esl ( angelus, nichos for example ) and, why do u have a so bad feeling about pokers : just TRY to ask them not to do it, and u ll see they'll accept cause they r as fair as u, an u ll see they can kik ur ass in yellow aswell ^^ 9) so u talk about aiming and timing, i m ok, i said it, that's why i disagree with ya when u say poking is enough to win, if u master aiming , timing and etc : u just can avoid the opponents poke, yellow is really efficient against poke, you should know it 10) u can find a lot of pokers playing bad without their poke, ( in that case u ll win if ur good ) , but this isnt important: i know much more pokers that are REALLY GOOD PLAYERS, u said it, dureal wins cause of his moving aiming and timing skil, so... what more ???? _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! |
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SaZ - Student
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first sentence of mastas comment really makes sense thats almost like... try to sway in real life... turning your head left and right (yep thats happens in game) repeteadly is 1. unrealistic.2.looks dumb.3. there is no such developer who likes to make dumb-looking games anyway i dont think we need to argue about things like these: jka contains so many exploits you cant even start to count coz there are so many  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Well, i wanna see you wiggle that saber in RL just like in the game and tell me afterwards that its logic and realistic. Also, im not saying that poking should be banned or something, ive learnt to tolerate it unlike most ppl in the academy who start accusing you of exploiting only because youve moved your mouse whilst swinging. I dont encourage ppl to do it neither since i think its a real shame and not fun at all to do 1hit kills with every swing you do. I think ive stated somewhere that poking doesnt require much skill at all. You wiggle your optical mouse hard, if thats too much for you, you just crack up your sensitivity and wiggle it even more. There you go, 1hit kills. Very skillful indeed. The great difference between pokers nowadays is the sole thing called movement. Thats why "Dureal is a noob ?????????" wins so often, he knows how and when to move in and not because hes so extremly skillful at wiggling his mouse. Yes ive tried to poke and i think ive stated somewhere as well, that im unable to do it since i lack the necessary hardware. It works really good once i increase my sensitivity though and it allows me to instakill just like every other poker. Quote: last thing : in what a jka eswc would kill the torneys we have in the academy ?????? Errr...how come you ask something like this? Did i say somewhere that the eswc would kill the tourneys at the academy? Ive said that it would be totally different just because the eswc would be filled only with pokers and you couldnt be able to ask them "hey could you please stop poking? i dont like it and my friends dont like it and the JAC doesnt like it neither...so are you going to stop?", unlike here in the JA. >_> I think JK3 is mostly just theory. It doesnt take long for a very unexperienced player to get really awesome when he finds someone who helps him and teaches him all the tricks, moves and crucial timing. Ive experienced ppl become better then myself in just 3 weeks, whilst copying someones style completly and adding their own ideas to it. Quote: P.S if ur tactic is only poke based, i dont think u ll win agaisnt a complete skilled opponent, if u dunno any combo, any aerial, if u dunno the dance, if u dunno yellow, if u only know poke ( even if u do it well ) i dont think u ll win only with that ^^ ) If you only know how to shake your mouse and move correctly, then yes, you will win most of your duels and be called a pr0gamer. Ive got plenty of examples to back this one up. I can show you demos of players who dont do anything else besides poking and moving...no jumps, no yellow, no "dance", no combos besides the right swing and no aerials. I can name you 3 players who are like that just out of my head: aXiom][Kazuya , aXiom][Warp and *aiming.Budokai. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Jul 15 2005 03:15pm. |
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-=Nomad=- - Student
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Well well well Mat, i dont exactly see in what poke is an exploit: no particular animation, no bug exploited , it's just a TECHNIQUE to make ur saber STAY in ur target, it just cross the body of the opponent fromleft to right, and comes back from right to left in a right swing for example , which is a logical and realistic stuf.nothing so different that what u see in yellow scissors.The jka damage system is based on velocity, location AND how long the saber is in contact with the target... nothing so extraordinary... PLus: it's really faaaar to be easy, u really have to aim GOOD and TIME it good, if not, u just dont perform it ! i see many people in the academy doing jump smashes ( where the saber do THE SAME THING from head to feet !! ) and delays , which are a REAL animation exploit, and really irrealistic stuff, but, noone says nothing about that ! an other thing : it doesnt make the fight harder than when u duel a staffer.when i see that a butterfly kills u in one hit ( which is a really easy and cheap move !!! ) so what, should we prohibe staff / single duels , or duals / singles duels ?? well, just b carefull, avoid, move , strikes back, u can use yellow etc... poke doesnt let u without any defending choice. believ me , i suck at pokin, but i dont care my opponent doing it, that's a game, and this take part in the fun as all the rest. try to poke, and u ll see it's hard, and it isnt just shaking the mouse : this doesnt work !!!! u have to b skilled at aiming and timing to perform a good poke, if u re just a noob shakin ur mouse , u just hit out of ur target ^^ See in the esl, they all poke, but only really skilled players win, do u dare thinking Dureal is a noob ??????? anyway, the competition rules for an eventual jka cup arnt set, and i think it isnt the question right now. last thing : in what a jka eswc would kill the torneys we have in the academy ?????? there 's no obligation for u to participate to this cup ! i just find that jka is the more technical game i know, so i think it deserves to b in the a world cup. for me the only dark point is the official aspect, with money for winner and all that serious stuff in eswc which could put the fun away ( in the cup i mean, not here, not outside the cup ) i just received this petition and said: why not ? P.S if ur tactic is only poke based, i dont think u ll win agaisnt a complete skilled opponent, if u dunno any combo, any aerial, if u dunno the dance, if u dunno yellow, if u only know poke ( even if u do it well ) i dont think u ll win only with that ^^ ) _______________ -=Nomad=- Following the Odan's wei... Brother to Solitude Give fun to ur saber, and it will give fun to you ! This comment was edited by -=Nomad=- on Jul 15 2005 01:44pm. |
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Lancer007 - Student 
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actully mastz00r the xbox version of the game was played on the G4 show called Arena they played on:TFFA,lightsaber only 2 on 2. If it passes the tournaments will most likely be on the xbox version. So really lets give it a chance and see what they do.If they do it for the PC They'll proubly setup some lightsaber and force config rules and what not. |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Why do you want to see this game at the eswc when everyone in the academy is complaining about how pokes and spins suck? The eswc wont be just like our lovely little organized tourneys where everyone agrees beforehand that exploits arent tolerated. Also, im hearing so extremly often that this game is broken...wouldnt it be therefore a bad choice from the administration of the eswc to allow a broken game to be played in something so huge like the world electronic sports championship? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Oscar Eto'o-lene - Student 
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Wheee....50th Signature by yours truly...hope this number grows a thousand fold... _______________ "The ultimate skill to learn is to hit your enemies so fast that they don't even know what hit them." |
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Thomasooo - Student 
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Signed! 15 signatures so far. _______________ In the navy and LOVING it!
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Jade Jedi - Retired 
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Yeah good idea I've signed. _______________ *CLICKEH->Never risk the Fett Man|*Download my Saber here. Made by master craftsman Pink Floyd_Mintaka + his 2002 & 4000 comment's [Laz's 700th comment][BDKawika's 600th comment] & Owner of a TOWEL award!!|Master: Sared Padawans: Rage-Ball and Dante Eagle.|*Jade Jedi at The Jedi Academy Archives "There's only one Return and it's not of the King it's of the Jedi" Randal Clerks 2 The top 10 reasons why I procrastinate: 1. |
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