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Video games linked to violet agression in boys
Aug 20 2005 12:20pm

CuZzA
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What do you think about this? Do you agree or dis-agree?
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Aug 23 2005 01:51pm

SaZ
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WHAT?? VIOLENCE??? IM GUNNA KILL THE PERSON WHO WROTE THAT @*@~~ £$**@? :mad:


lmao


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Aug 23 2005 10:35am

Esta
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Heey, this article didn't include other sources of violence, like TV, the police, real life in general, slaughter houses, I'm pretty sure the bible has violence in it too...
Maybe we should label these things 'bad influences'.

..hey look, sarcasm.
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This comment was edited by Esta on Aug 23 2005 10:36am.

Aug 23 2005 02:30am

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WHAT?? VIOLENCE??? IM GUNNA KILL THE PERSON WHO WROTE THAT @*@~~ £$**@? :mad:


lmao
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Aug 22 2005 10:34pm

Jedifire_Mintaka
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I agree with your point, Dice. I took Psych 101 this spring and it made me look at studies in a whole different way. I have to agree, there is no solid evidence in that article. Just people trying to piss us off, d**n them! We're violent by nature (as said before), and it has been that way for thousands of years. Some can just control it better than others.:)
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Aug 22 2005 05:04pm

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WHAT?? VIOLENCE??? IM GUNNA KILL THE PERSON WHO WROTE THAT @*@~~ £$**@? :mad:
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Aug 22 2005 10:03am

SaZ
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Video games linked to violet agression in boys.


i dont know appropiate comment for your comment but this smily shows it all - :mad:


Why do you get pissed..? It's common sense that boys are usually more violent than girls...


pure lies :)
today girls are as violent as boys. maybe in other areas but its still violence they cant hide.
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Aug 22 2005 02:53am

Zadus
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Do I play video games? yes. i play games like L2 and WoW and JK3. are they violent? sorta. do i argue with teachers in class? yea everyone does i go to public school what do u expect? do i run around waving swords and lightsabers and guns at my teaches and parents? nope. how is ARGUING violent? all society is based on arguments and conflict.
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Aug 22 2005 12:39am

Rogue
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what makes kids violent these days are the drugged up, alcoholic, teenage slappers and chavs for parents that they have. simple as that
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Aug 21 2005 11:49pm

Buzz
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One study showed that children who played a violent game for less than 10 minutes and then took a mood assessment test rated themselves with aggressive traits and aggressive actions shortly after playing.

1) did they take the same test before playing the game? If so did they have the same results? maybe they are just violent children
2)how many children did they study? How many of those actually were more agressive. If they tested 600 children and only 6 of them were more agressive they can still say the exact same sentance because they give no hard evidence.


This is like the "listening to mozart can make you smarter" claim as well. Its a short term effect. The kids likely played games for 10 minutes and then immediately took the test. This could be done for a lot of things. You could show teenagers something considered "sexy" for 10 minutes and give them a test and it would show an increase for everything relating there. Have them go do something that would have a calming effect for 10 minutes and notice how much more docile they become.

Now if you have them play violent games for 10 minutes, and then have them come back a week later. It like claiming that if you drink beer, you're always going to be drunk and act drunk even after the effects wear off.
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Aug 21 2005 11:27pm

Dicemaster
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I took a class all about studying the media. because of that class this article just annoyed me. I will paste some of the things and why it annoyed me, note that this isn't everything

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Most studies done on violence and video games support the conclusion that violent video games can increase aggressive behaviour in children and adolescents, especially boys, researchers said on Friday.

what is "most studies" how many studies did they do? did they do 100 and 30 said that its linked and 70 of them they just ignored? There is no numbers there, no actual evidence that is a completely worthless statement.

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One study showed that children who played a violent game for less than 10 minutes and then took a mood assessment test rated themselves with aggressive traits and aggressive actions shortly after playing.

1) did they take the same test before playing the game? If so did they have the same results? maybe they are just violent children
2)how many children did they study? How many of those actually were more agressive. If they tested 600 children and only 6 of them were more agressive they can still say the exact same sentance because they give no hard evidence.

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Teachers of 600 8th and 9th graders, aged 13 to 15, said children who spent more time playing violent video games were more hostile than other children and more likely to argue with authority figures and other students.

1) What is "more time"? is this five minutes more then the other kid, or 6 hours more.
2) what is "more hostile"? do they argue twice in a day when the normal kid argues once? How do they classify "more hostile"

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Nicoll said in an interview that "only a handful" of the studies she and colleagues examined found no connection between violence and violent video games.

1) first, if there talking to a psycologist, obviously they are more violent then normal kids. If my best friend and I play games the exact same amount, and he goes in to see a psycologist because hes more violent then me, how is that the games fault? thats genetics and how he/she was raised.
2) wtf is a handful? is that 3 or is that 600

So basically, there is absoultly no hard evidence in that article. Its just a bunch of semi-facts manupulated and reworded to make it sound worse then it is. People need to read things more carefully and listen more carefully before just believing. The media is the most manipulative thing ever. Every fact that is said on any TV show can be reworded to sound completely different.
Finally, it mentions boys in the paper once. why is it necessary to have that in the title?
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Aug 21 2005 10:28pm

Esta
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 Esta

Manhunt was fun in a really.. really sadistic way.
You need to be able to tell the difference between a game and real life to be able to play a game without being affected by it's contents.
I guess there are some people out there who can't.
Am I just repeating myself? This article isn't very effective if I only need one point to prove it wrong...
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Aug 21 2005 10:17pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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yees, but there wernt asmany people running round and removing peoples heads with knifes, as seen in games (happened somehwere heard it on news) its nort the only reason. but it may have Some effect.


Tell me, which video games did Jack the Ripper play? How about the BTK killer?


Man hunt. and no nee to be sarcastic.
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Aug 21 2005 10:08pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Violent crimes have also been decreasing in recent years in the US, yet video games are becoming more violent and more realistic.
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Aug 21 2005 09:01pm

Fire
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Games are just a pychological factor into the mind, for those that take it into some serious influence. I mean, movies and music often have some connections to violence, so why not ban them also?

Aug 21 2005 08:26pm

Mindrith Pride
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i very VERY strongly disagree with that artical :)
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Aug 21 2005 08:21pm

Buzz
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yees, but there wernt asmany people running round and removing peoples heads with knifes, as seen in games (happened somehwere heard it on news) its nort the only reason. but it may have Some effect.


Tell me, which video games did Jack the Ripper play? How about the BTK killer?
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-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Aug 21 2005 06:35pm

Flash
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Violet aggression?

Just keep them away from any shades of purple, and they should be fine. :D



Aug 21 2005 04:54pm

Wicek
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Heh. Everyone are different ;)


Aug 21 2005 04:42pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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Perhaps that violent tendencies have existed in people since before video games. Hangings and the Guillotine were public attractions for a reason.


yees, but there wernt asmany people running round and removing peoples heads with knifes, as seen in games (happened somehwere heard it on news) its nort the only reason. but it may have Some effect.

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Video games linked to violet agression in boys.


i dont know appropiate comment for your comment but this smily shows it all - :mad:


Why do you get pissed..? It's common sense that boys are usually more violent than girls...


well.. in most cases yes, there is a girl in my class (my X) who can beat the hell out of me, and most people in my yera. apart from the uber strong people who can throw people a good 5 meters with one hand.
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This comment was edited by NotSoLittleCaesar on Aug 21 2005 04:44pm.

Aug 21 2005 04:40pm

Jacen Aratan
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Video games linked to violet agression in boys.


i dont know appropiate comment for your comment but this smily shows it all - :mad:


Why do you get pissed..? It's common sense that boys are usually more violent than girls...

Aug 21 2005 04:25pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

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Video games linked to violet agression in boys.


i dont know appropiate comment for your comment but this smily shows it all - :mad:


Why? that's what this thread is all about
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Aug 21 2005 03:59pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Video games linked to violet agression in boys.


i dont know appropiate comment for your comment but this smily shows it all - :mad:
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Aug 21 2005 01:41pm

Liso
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Video games linked to violet agression in boys.
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Aug 21 2005 11:15am

SaZ
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 SaZ

yep and gladiator fights gathered massive crowds of ppl :eek:
we are evil by nature :(
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Aug 21 2005 09:45am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Perhaps that violent tendencies have existed in people since before video games. Hangings and the Guillotine were public attractions for a reason.
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