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The Official JA Martial Arts Thread!
Sep 17 2005 02:12am

Ataris
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Ataris
Allright, I can't remember if we ever had our own martial arts thread. But increasing numbers of JA members are in a way or another interested in some sort of martial arts.. Many of the people I've talked to over the years have been or still are active in some sort of martial art, it being everything from Judo and Karate, to more artistic stuff like Capoeira..

So if you have anything related to martial arts, what you train or what your favorite martial art is.. Please post! :)

I train Muay Thai myself. Thaiboxing for those of you who wonder.. Been training it since late 2004, and I think it's absolutely awesome! :D

-Ataris <3
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What's your favorite martial art? To watch, to do, or just what sounds the coolest if you don't know! :D (I can't have ALL martial arts, but I'll put 2 in each option)

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Oct 14 2005 01:53pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

LOL...So Ataris, when you do roundhouses with bare shins, how does it feel when it hits directly on a pointy elbow? :o

And Xanatos, do you do any martial arts?

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Oct 14 2005 12:06pm

Ataris
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 Ataris

So now we need some fresh thing to start debating on then, when you're finished with your TKD.. :P

-Ataris <3
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Oct 11 2005 04:11am

Trad Redav
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 Trad Redav

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That site even has ITF Chang Hon poomse, that's your forms right?

Hmm... not quite. Yes, those are the names of my forms (though this place hyphenates them all for some reason) but they're not exactly with the ranks they're supposed to be. Let's see if I can do this manageably...

Belt | Form Name | rough pronounciation guide
White*| Chon Ji | "Chun Gee"
Yellow| Dan Gun | "Don Goon"
Orange| Do San | "Doe Sahn"
Green*| Won Hyo | "Wahn Hyo"
Green | Yul Gok | "Yull Go"
Purple| Joon Gun | "Jung Goon"
Blue | Toi Gye | "Tay Gay"
Brown | Hwa Rang | "Hwuwrong"
Red | Choong Moo | "Chung Moo"
1st B*| Kwang Gae | "Kwong Gay"
| Po Eun | "Poe En"
| Ge Baek | "Geh Beck"
...and the rest which I don't know yet.

Notes: I've already mentioned my not knowing how the green belts work. I'm also not sure whether yellow or orange is first. The form order is correct, regardless.

The pronounciation thing is how I pronounce them, not necissarily how you're supposed to.

Yes, all three forms there are for first degree black. There's also another form I don't know how to spell (pronounced "Gee Goo";) that's in there that goes before Kwan Gae and is learned by Recommended Black Belts. Theres also another before Chun Ji (pronounced "song song";) that's the first form new people start to learn, but they don't really learn all of it until further along. (So if you count, I know 13 forms and am started on Ge Baek, my 14th)

In regard to the site with the form movies: I looked at some of the ITF form movies, and those are basically my forms, but that's not really exactly my forms. The style is a bit different, and some moves are modified a bit. But those are basically them, yeah.
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This comment was edited by Trad Redav on Oct 11 2005 04:11am.

Oct 10 2005 08:53pm

Ataris
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 Ataris

This is the 100th post on the official martial arts thread! Thank you for making this more than just a 5-post-forget-about-it kinda thread! :)

-Ataris <3
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Oct 10 2005 05:07pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

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Well cancer is caused by malformation and mutation of cells. Now sure, if you're constantly needing more cells because you keep killing them you're gonna have more opportunity to have a few mutated cells here and there during mitosis, but tbh, realistically, destroying your shins isn't going to increase your chances of getting cancer.


This is true.

Oct 10 2005 04:33pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Here's a video of the purple belt form, Tae Geuk (4) Sah Jang. (just click play video and it should come up)

This guy is really good, each of the moves look on target, with a good snap. This link here has all of our WTF Tae Geuk poomse with videos (this place does belts a little different then us, we have orange, purple, and brown where they're stripes are). I love that guys Ki-ahp, it's great. That site even has ITF Chang Hon poomse, that's your forms right? And WTF "Palgwe" on the right is the old forms, from the 60's and stuff.
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Oct 10 2005 04:42pm.

Oct 10 2005 04:33pm

Ataris
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 Ataris

Quote:
Oh, you know what would be cool? Me making a video of me doing all the forms I know, then you making a video of all the forms you know, and showing them to each other, so we can see all the differences.

What would be even cooler would be that you would post the links here and we all could watch them.. I'm sure DJ would set up them on the JA webserver if you send them to him, even just temporarily. :)

Let me know if you get a hold of some camera :)


-Ataris <3
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Oct 10 2005 04:00pm

Trad Redav
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 Trad Redav

Whatever you say, Plo :P

Oh, you know what would be cool? Me making a video of me doing all the forms I know, then you making a video of all the forms you know, and showing them to each other, so we can see all the differences. Most will probably be completely different, but you never know... Only problem with that is I have nowhere to do it, nothing to record it with, nothing to edit it with, and nowhere to host it.
Heh. No matter how much I complain, low rank forms are still fun to do, if only because I sometimes know them better than the people who are at that rank-- and I have better technique regardless. I'm really good with forms, both learning them and remembering them, so I rarely make a mistake once I know it. Of course, I'm horrible with form meanings and have to re-memorize them each and every time I test, but whatever.
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This comment was edited by Trad Redav on Oct 10 2005 04:00pm.

Oct 10 2005 12:40pm

xAnAtOs
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Don't think he was flaming Ataris....think he was making a joke :P
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Oct 10 2005 12:07pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Oh we can never let this thread die.

Imperator, you don't do Tae Geuk correct? You do ITF so I have no clue what to talk about
:P

Hopefully one day WTF and ITF can become one, but until then we can become perfectionists in our forms and kicks. :)
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Oct 09 2005 12:48pm

Ataris
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 Ataris

TreeZ try to keep it civil in this thread? no flaming!

-Ataris <3
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Oct 08 2005 10:10pm

Trad Redav
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 Trad Redav

...That's worse than insane. I can't see why you would actually want to do that. Sure, getting kicked in the shins hurts, but purposefully damaging yourself...

...In other news, I've decided what saturday TKD classes are good for: my ego. They're an all-rank class, so there are white belts there sometimes. Today it was just three green belts and three black belts (including myself). What we were doing was simple to me, but new stuff for the green belts, so they were amazed and I was like 'heh, this is easy'... Okay, not the best story, but saturday classes arn't good for much else. I also did my form a bunch of times. Yay. I am no closer to learning the form I need to learn.
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Oct 08 2005 08:24pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

lol, funny thing is, we weren't really even sparring. I know it's sad :D.

Ataris, you actually purposly kick a wall to damage the nerves in your shin? that's insane :eek:
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Oct 08 2005 08:30pm.

Oct 08 2005 11:01am

Nuebus
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 Nuebus

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Btw I got promoted to Purple belt, and as I said I twisted my ankle just before I got my new belt :P so I won't be learning anything new for a while :o


Poor baby, someone try to sucker punch you and you did the good ole twister? :D
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Oct 08 2005 10:20am

Esta
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 Esta

Well cancer is caused by malformation and mutation of cells. Now sure, if you're constantly needing more cells because you keep killing them you're gonna have more opportunity to have a few mutated cells here and there during mitosis, but tbh, realistically, destroying your shins isn't going to increase your chances of getting cancer.
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This comment was edited by Esta on Oct 08 2005 10:21am.

Oct 08 2005 12:29am

Ataris
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 Ataris

Quote:
severe impact/damage to the shin damages the nerves up and down the shin, creating cancer somehow?.
Well this was nothing new.. We beat our shins against walls on purpose to damage the nerves so that you don't feel pain when you kick.. I had no idea that was somehow cancer-related.. Everyone does it at our gym..


-Ataris <3
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Oct 08 2005 12:06am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

All I found out about googling "what is shin cancer", is that severe impact/damage to the shin damages the nerves up and down the shin, creating cancer somehow?. The only other known body part to cause cancer by impact is us guys' royal jewels :eek:

Btw I got promoted to Purple belt, and as I said I twisted my ankle just before I got my new belt :P so I won't be learning anything new for a while :o
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Oct 07 2005 10:12pm

Ataris
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 Ataris

hmm I don't know about shin cancer.. I guess that could mean cancer in a way that not actual cancer, but some type of osteoporosis or similar thing, eating away your shins, making them soft or something like that.. that would make sense since that stuff happens.. Although I don't know if that could be called shin cancer.. I need to google on this and try to ask some people at my gym.. Thanks for the info though xAnAtOs.. This should be interesting to find out..


-Ataris <3
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Oct 07 2005 09:18pm

xAnAtOs
 - Student

I was watching a documentary on Muay Thai some time ago and apparently the rate for shin cancer in Thailand, mostly among the fighters was especially high. This makes sense as shins are used frequently in MT. I just never even knew there was a thing called 'shin cancer'. o_O Anyone else know anything about this?
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Oct 07 2005 10:25am

Ataris
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 Ataris

Quote:
I have, however, been bashed so hard in the shin (see previous comment) that there was a large, visible bump, and I couldn't put pressure on that leg without the shin complaining a lot.

Heheheh, that happens to me in EVERY training I go to :D I think I have like 2 or 3 trainings / month where I manage to go without a large visible bump in my shins..

Muay Thai for the win! :D It's absolutely awesome ye Ecks you're right..


-Ataris <3
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Oct 06 2005 08:34pm

Ecks
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 Ecks

I take karate 'cause the people are nice and it improves my speed, but I do take JJ every other week and I've dabbled in MT over the past 3 months to increase practical self-defense. I love MT to death... as bad as it sounds, nothing beats taking a punch to the head and then returning a leg kick. You have to feel it to love it. :)
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Oct 06 2005 11:15am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Everybody does bare feet here too, it's just I broke a tiny peice of bone off in the bottom of my bigtoe and it's still in there. If I don't wear the martial arts shoes my toe will become badly swollen and I can't walk. The doc doesn't want to take it out until I finish growing because the surgery could cause an even worse problem :P
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Oct 06 2005 02:52am

Trad Redav
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 Trad Redav

Heh. I've never really done that. Probably 'cause we don't wear shoes. Bare feet for the win! :)
I have, however, been bashed so hard in the shin (see previous comment) that there was a large, visible bump, and I couldn't put pressure on that leg without the shin complaining a lot.

[One word: ice. It's like the martial-arts-injury cure-all, so long as you don't do any serious damage. Got a bad bruise? Use ice. Sprained a joint? Use ice. Got deep bloody gashes on your leg or arm from a newly-broken board? Use ice. And then go to the hospital.]
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Oct 06 2005 12:46am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Uh oh, I just twisted my left foot ankle in sparring class, and the thing is we weren't even sparring. we where doing fake sparring, like no- contact counter practicing.

The martial arts shoes that I wear stop like glue when they are on the mat, so while I was switching stance to counter his fast kick, my foot kinda stubbed the ground instead of sliding because of the shoes, and I fell/tripped. Now I can't put any pressure on it or I scream in pain! Nooo! The agony! :( :mad: :(
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Oct 05 2005 09:23pm

Trad Redav
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 Trad Redav

We used to have the korean flag up, before the building was renovated. I dunno where it went. But yeah, it should be up there.

We've got shin guards, too, that I really should be wearing to spar, 'cause blocking things with my shins really hurts otherwise. I'm not quite sure where they are, though... somewhere around the house, anyway. Why would forearms need protection? They're nice and bony, hurts them as much as it hurts you. And, to paraphrase Master McNeely, chest protectors are 'the worst thing that could have happened to TKD.' I'm not going to go into his reasons why, unless you really want me to. Anyway, we don't use them.

As a random side note, I love looking at the pictures on my school's site of my black belt testing-- I had such horrible technique back then. I laugh at my past self :)
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This comment was edited by Trad Redav on Oct 05 2005 10:15pm.

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