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CuZzA - Student  |
I listened to a song (or a story with a beat in the background) and these are the words it says. Please don't start any sort of flame war...I'm just posting it because I thought it was a great piece of writing All of mankind has been diagnosed with a condition, that the bible calls 'Sin'. It's not like cancer or leukemia, which can be traced through a scan. If anything, it's more like a psychological sickness and visible to the eye, but effects the way we act and even think. You see, 'Sin', is where we do things wrong...when we do things contrary to God's 'perfect' planet. Things like lying, cheating, stealing, or thinking you're better than everyone else. And 'Sin', even if it starts out small, always leads to death. It's kinda like "What goes up, must come down" or "Every action has a reaction". Well, for 'Sin', that reaction is death. So this sickness we've all been diagnosed with, is really more like a fatal disease. So what can we do about it? Is that it? Are we supposed to come to terms with our disease with no hope of any cure? Is there a doctor anywhere on the planet who can help us? Here's the answer: 2,000 years ago, a man named Jesus lived. This was a real, live human being. Skin and bones, guts and brains, everything. But there is something special about this one, and even though he was tempted in every way, he never sinned. The disease simply couldn't be found in him. In fact, he went around healing all sorts of people with sicknesses: The blind, the deaf, the demon possesed. He fed the poor, cared for the untouchables and even raised people from the dead. Everywhere he went, he told people about this massive party, called the 'Kingdom of God'. It's a community, a family, where everyone is loved and accepted and where everyone can learn to love and accept not just their friends, but even their enemies. And if Jesus' life and teachings weren't 'odd' enough, his death was even more strange. Even though he was the last person in the world to deserve it. Even though he was sentanced 'Not-Guilty' of any crime or wrong doing. Even though there was not a trace of this 'Sin' disease in him, he laid down his life at the hands of contaminated people, like you and me, and died on a cross. And when he died, he took it upon himself the responsibility of the punishment for all the wrong things the people around him were doing. He took upon himself the responsibility of the punishment for all the wrong things we, 2000 years later, are still doing. It was the ultimate cure for the ultimate disease. And now we can have the forgiveness of God. But it doesn't end there. You see, three days after he died, Jesus came back to life and appeared to hundreds of people. He overcame death and proved once and for all that he was who he said he was all along...The Son of God. The bible said in "John 3:16" 'God loved the world so much that he sent his one and only son so that whoever belives in him shouldn't die forever, but live forever.' And that's basically what it means to become a Christian. Just to admit that you're lost in Sin and let Jesus come into your life. Ask him to sort your head out and he will. If you take this seriously, then you too can be a part of this amazing thing called the 'Kingdom of God', where you can find love and acceptance and have your life completely changed...forever. _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world This post was edited by CuZzA on Sep 24 2005 08:26pm. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Optimus Prime can transform into an awesome bigrig and he leads the Autobots! And they rule! Can Jesus do that?? _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Lucky Mintaka - Ex-Student 
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XD _______________ Vasper Adept-1600 Comment Raydoe-150 comment Pink -Floyd 425 comment |
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Sared - Retired 
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You know, if that had made the least amount of sense then.... No. No it didn't. No sense, whatsoever.  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Lucky Mintaka - Ex-Student
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man that really sucks b/c like im Optimus Prime, jesus aint got nothin on that.  _______________ Vasper Adept-1600 Comment Raydoe-150 comment Pink -Floyd 425 comment |
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Sared - Retired
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Quote: I question the senses of anyone who supports the Intelligent Design theory. Why bother learning how things works if we can just magically explain it away as a miracle worked by some diety? You can ask anyone in any field of science, they (hopefully at least), enjoy what they do. Regardless of religious beliefs. Also, they enjoy it for the same reason, they just differ on where it all came from. A atheist and a christian scientist can both sit and study an amoeba or DNA/RNA strands, or fossil formations and both be equally fascinated by it. Explaining the origin of something should not interfere with our want of knowledge, or our pursuit of the sciences. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Sared - Retired 
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3th, a lot of that has to do with sanitation and whatnot. Also, you're taking the quote out of context. If you read back in Genesis, because of man's evil nature, God shortened the lifespan of a man from several hundred years, to roughly one-hundred and twenty. Secondly, that quote, is in refrence to spiritual life, and death. It doensn't take any sort of special power to observe a morally corrupt and degenerative person and know for sure that they are dead on the inside. (Though the chance for life and revitalization still exists. I know, I'm walking proof of that.) _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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I question the senses of anyone who supports the Intelligent Design theory. Why bother learning how things works if we can just magically explain it away as a miracle worked by some diety? _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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3th - Retired 
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i have something wacky for you people to wrap your heads around: wages of sin = death average life span of a human around 1796: about 24 years average life span of a human around 1896: about 48 average life span of a human US citizen today: about 78 today's preachers on the TV: today's society is wrought with more sin than we used to be... have the wages of sin not been adjusted for inflation recently or what? (and yes i am aware that people in the bible lived for like 1000 years or more ) _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! This comment was edited by 3th on Sep 27 2005 11:20pm. |
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Intelligent design is a fancy phrase for creationism, and that again suggests that there is some invisible power in the universe.... the thing with dark matter is, you have the matter, and you know something is missing. You don't have Satan and know something is missing. |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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I suppose you also think evolution is logical? Not going to start a debate about that here, but you'll find that modern science (even atheistic science) disproves evolution and supports the case for intelligent design (and I spend lots of my spare time reading science journals - so I should know). So if we're talking logic as scientific fact, then you're all illogical (and I'll paste the references if you want as well). Besides, Christianity is something that is EXPERIENCED, not PROVEN. You can't PROVE or DISPROVE God, but if you have an experience with Him, you can't deny He exists. So, really, this discussion is pointless. I would die for what I believe - because I've experienced something that I believe is worth dying for. And no-one is in a position to judge it as "wrong" or "stupid". Its draws parallels with the whole Dark Matter thing. No one can see it, you can't weigh it, but somewhere 98% of the universe's mass is missing. Logical? No, probably not. But it sure is scientific fact. _______________ Website This comment was edited by JamesF1 on Sep 27 2005 06:19pm. |
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Mic Den Octela - Student 
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*sigh* Threads that start with and/or include the words "please don't let this turn into a flame war" tend to turn a bit nasty... i really hope it doesn't get too far again. AS for my views on anything religious well... we'll find out when we die won't we? wont we.... Ben: "You see the good thing about being an atheist is that when i die.. if im wrong.. i'll find out! Whereas when a theist dies and it turns out he's wrong.. he'll never know!" Me: "But what about me? Im Agnostic!" Ben: "Well.. your just awkward." _______________ -Padawan of Virtue -Brother of Menaxia, *|irael, Krynn Adept, Majno, Ris Win Juljul, DaMi3N, Beowulf, Dash Starlight, Carrock and Yuken Zalak Bartender at Munes bar. Sir Mic of Nippledom! Proudly beating Wang, since '07. (Crackdown) This comment was edited by Mic Den Octela on Sep 27 2005 06:01pm. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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Sared: thebandwithnoname - Amazing Grace _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: you dont need to measure gravity, its effects have been measured before. if you are in freefall (that is to say, the only force acting on you is gravity, read: neglect air resistance) you will acelerate at -9.8 m/(s^2) due to the pull of gravity. so, therefore you CAN see, and feel the effects of gravity. Hence the reason sir issac newton alledgedly had an apple fall on his head when he thought of the concept of gravity. Your point is..? I never said you have to measure gravity, I said it is measurable and quite easy to observe in everyday life, therefore, it is logical. |
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Wheres my bolognese sauce! _______________ Proud owner of El Vee For's 200th Comment, and Wicek's 2600th comment DaMi3N's 400th, Trad Redav's 666th.
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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Its just about as logical as following the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (which is waaay cooler than christianity). _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Sared - Retired
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Quote: We all know how differently men and women view "logic".. /me falls out of his chair laughing like a maniac Never a truer word said my good man. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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JK13 /// jaws. - Student 
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you dont need to measure gravity, its effects have been measured before. if you are in freefall (that is to say, the only force acting on you is gravity, read: neglect air resistance) you will acelerate at -9.8 m/(s^2) due to the pull of gravity. so, therefore you CAN see, and feel the effects of gravity. Hence the reason sir issac newton alledgedly had an apple fall on his head when he thought of the concept of gravity. _______________ It's a false hologram, it IS artificial... |
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Personally.... I'd consider something illogical when it defies all meaning, laws of physics and known science. Be reasonable people. _______________ -Kauyon Draconis [Official master of Ataris] |
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You can measure gravitational pull. |
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I guess you don't consider gravity to be logical then _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Quote: ra·tion·al adj. 1. Having or exercising the ability to reason. 2. Of sound mind; sane. 3. Consistent with or based on reason; logical: rational behavior. See Synonyms at logical. It depends what you classify as "logical". We all know how differently men and women view "logic", so its obviously not the same for everyone. I consider science logical. I don't consider believing in something that cannot be seen, measured, heard or felt logical. |
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bono_bob - Student |
For some people the gap that may seem to be between a certain belief an scientific thought does not exist. There has been many scientists who went off believing a religion because of what their studies proved, of course all scientists only THINK. Plus also the thing that have be for sure determined and is no longer considered an official debate by anthropologists is that we all come from a common ancestor, which really does not disgaree or prove anything. Now I hav enot gone into full detail I may have had flaws in my paragraph, I am poor at communicating, but I do not care to go back on this forum and continue posting something that will accomplish nothing, so in case if your wondering if your a Christian, and if really are interested you can personally talk to me, but anyhow about the song... yeah what artist? can you have a link so we can stream it on the web bowser and hear it ( it might sound decent you know, like Friday's Cry (christian canadian band ) song called "Battle" I personally like my self. _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Sared - Retired
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Scientific Thought and Faith, not Belief. </semantical_pirate> edit:// So who wrote/composed that anyway Cuzza? _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. This comment was edited by Sared on Sep 26 2005 08:49pm. |
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Quote: And for some people, the gap from scientific thought to belief is too big a leap. I'm with u on this one m8. |
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