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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student  |
ok. before i go on with this. i do not want spamming. flaming. or general imaturity in this thread. if there is any. i will ask a admin to lock the thread. ok. this thread is basicly asking all of you what YOU personaly think of sploits but i dont want ''they are for noobs becuaset hey are for a easy win. becuase its bull'. i want reasons on opinions. and i want good reasons. becuase in my time at the JA i have noticed how many people here. CAN or HAVE . or DO sploitz outside the ja. and i find it funny that with so many people doing it. they still seem to hide it in the ja. i will openly admit. i SPLOITS sometimes out of the ja. im in a clan. sploits. but i still seem to be able to play reasonably without poke. someone at the ja once said [no names] ''ja is about how you move. not about how good ur poke is.'' although yes, poke helps massive damage. but if i stand still. and poke. i can still be hit. if i run in one direction and poke. i can still be hit. even if my opponent doesent poke. thanks. -peace _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Bo - Student 
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Quote: Meh. The fact remains that you will never be REALLY good at jka unless you use pokes or sways. If we could just make everyone who plays sign a contract saying they wont poke, that would be great, but sadly it cant happen, and i dont want to suck just because im too worried about "honor". It's not about honor, it's about whether or not your winning with skill or with gayness. I don't do either, and I'm pretty good. I've seen you play, Mike, and well..let me put it like this: Much to learn you still have. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Meh. The fact remains that you will never be REALLY good at jka unless you use pokes or sways. If we could just make everyone who plays sign a contract saying they wont poke, that would be great, but sadly it cant happen, and i dont want to suck just because im too worried about "honor". are you really that experienced to say that? i think i remember how you fight - staff+swaying. i also think that you are a bit impatient (thats what i saw in classes) conclusion : you werent patient enough to try learning the ways of normal honorable sabering. please dont take this as a flame. i just think that to know something you must have some experience. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: The fact remains that you will never be REALLY good at jka unless you use pokes or sways. How come? Why do you think that its impossible to be good without poking? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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DarthMike - Student 
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Meh. The fact remains that you will never be REALLY good at jka unless you use pokes or sways. If we could just make everyone who plays sign a contract saying they wont poke, that would be great, but sadly it cant happen, and i dont want to suck just because im too worried about "honor". _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy This comment was edited by DarthMike on Oct 20 2005 09:10am. |
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Bo - Student
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Setementor makes an excellent point. I'd like to add this: I can teach somebody who has never played a jk series game to wiggle side swings and yaw etc. in about half an hour, to the point where they will be able to kill people in a server. Now, does that take skill? or just a willingness to win NOW, not to take time and actually get good? _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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The next part is how I personally see things. It's just my opinion, so as stated in the main post, don't flame it or anything. Anybody can fight how they like. But that doesn't mean I will always respect the way some people do. You can play "fair" and use tactics that just deal a fair amount of damage, or you can play "unfairly" by using a tactic that will pretty much destroy your opponent first hit. You really have two choices: play fairly and have a nice duel that you enjoy lots, or take the easy way out, play unfairly and have a short, boring duel. Some one-hit kills aren't considered exploits. Whether or not they are, using such tactics often in your duels isn't showing much honour to your opponent. Since it is a game, I'd rather have fun, fair duels rather than just having hits that destroy me or tactics that overpower people used. When I go against moves that are made to repeatedly destroy me in say less than 30 seconds, I literally just get bored. Games are intended to give you something to do, not bore you. If there's a tactic you're not sure about, think about it. Would it overpower almost everyone? Is it dishonourable? Is it taking "the easy way out"? Basically, in my opinion, there are people who won't consider others when deciding on their use of tactics. You can either have a blast and maybe even achieve a great skill level, or just do everything you can to be the very best, using high-damaging moves, usually quick-finishes to most duels and pretty much doing everything not considering your fellow opponents. Anyway, that's just how I see things. |
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AvaloN - Student 
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ow goodie, seems like a nice challenge Tal  On topic then. I do poke outside the academy, altho im not very good at it. Im actually enjoying it, but I have a lot of respect for guys that fight 'clean' all the way. I just find swaying yellow and poking red too fun and tempting to not use them. And yeah, its kinda noobish. Winning your matches purely on aiming requires the most skill (by far). Altho poking isnt as easy as it looks, it IS the easy way. IMO, everyone should just choose their own path. Also, you can argue about the term 'exploit' itself. Are poking and swaying really 'exploits'? It depends on how one views them. Some say they are exploits, because the game-developers never meant for them to be used. Others say they are just part of the game and the engine, no-one ever added/changed something about the game to make poking/swaying effective. We can all form an opinion about this. To sum things up: to spl0it or not to spl0it, thats the question.  |
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Bo - Student 
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HAHA _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Demo it pls. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Bo - Student
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Well, there is an easy way to decide it, you fight me with your "SPLOITZ", and I'll play like I normally play, then the outcome will decide whether or not You and/or your technique is nub. siddy_ous@hotmail.com is my msn. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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indeed. i respect his opinion. so im not goiong to argue =) _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Wicek - Nugget 
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That's just his opinnion Talion. One see that exploiters are noobs and satan minions, one think that they are ok. And others dont like bananas :/ |
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Bo - Student
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Thers a reason its called an exploit. "reasonably well" in a game thats been around for as long as JKA has = nub. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: Yes, you are both nubs. If you need to shake your mouse or spin or yaw your yellow, then you arent a good player. Perhaps youd like a lesson. thats just a strange way to look on sploits. i can play resonably well with nonpoke aswell. so that theory goes out the window. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Bo - Student
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Yes, you are both nubs. If you need to shake your mouse or spin or yaw your yellow, then you arent a good player. Perhaps youd like a lesson. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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SaZ - Student
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i admit that i sometimes use exploits. but only on some weird occasions... for example im on ja+ server and i get really pissed after couple of random blocks, parries and such...  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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so im a nub? if sploits are for nubs HECK. im a nub _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Eica - Student 
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Quote: oh yea, one more thing: SPLOITZ ARE FOR NUBS No. No they're not. We're taught here that exploits are merely part of the games structure, if someone wants to battle that way, fine. It does not make them a noob. I think "exploits" are just a different form of tactic, rather than an exploit. Eica  _______________ Former padawan of RoseRed |
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Bo - Student
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oh yea, one more thing: SPLOITZ ARE FOR NUBS _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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Wicek - Nugget
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Saz teh trouble maker. Everything is for people ;o Even glitches. I don't know how to 'do a good poke'. How i play vs. glitch? Extension. Most of time they wh00p my azz  But whatever  It's a game and glitchers are PEOPLE too  |
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Bo - Student
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There is nothing exploitative about aiming your saber throughout the swing, and as Mastz00r said, that is not poking. Basically, in my view, people who use exploits are still easy to beat, as you cant really yaw or wiggle and still have a really good view of your opponent, at least not the same view as you would if you just aimed. Those that need them, fine by me if they use them, becaus ei use it to my advantage and they will only get the occasional 1 hit kill on me. _______________ I know whats been troubling you...... |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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keep on topic. and btw. alot of the ja are to paranoid about sploits. ive been accused of sploiting in the ja with extensions _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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SaZ - Student 
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hmmm... conclusion: JA taught almost nothing about sploitz so im really confused now. gg. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Well Saz the actual term for the thing you call "wiggle" is poke. Seemingly english speaking people have a problem with that, since it doesnt originate from the english word "to poke" nor does it relate to it in anyway. The thing you call "poking" which actually relates to the english word "to poke" is usually known as "aiming". This term and technique will be taught at classes by ranked members as well. Youre free to call it whatever you want though, just make sure to not mix them up while you talk. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Oct 19 2005 02:44pm. |
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SaZ - Student
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i think we have enough of threads like that. also im sure you know whats a sploit and what ppl think about those. and ofcourse poke is just aim (and yeah it delivers pretty damage too if ya know what i mean ). wiggle is mad mouse movement.make sure you dont mix poke and wiggle while u talk _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Oct 19 2005 02:29pm. |
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