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Oct 19 2005 02:07pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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NotSoLittleCaesar
ok. before i go on with this. i do not want spamming. flaming. or general imaturity in this thread. if there is any. i will ask a admin to lock the thread.

ok. this thread is basicly asking all of you what YOU personaly think of sploits but i dont want ''they are for noobs becuaset hey are for a easy win. becuase its bull'. i want reasons on opinions. and i want good reasons. becuase in my time at the JA i have noticed how many people here. CAN or HAVE . or DO sploitz outside the ja. and i find it funny that with so many people doing it. they still seem to hide it in the ja. i will openly admit. i SPLOITS sometimes out of the ja. im in a clan. sploits. but i still seem to be able to play reasonably without poke. someone at the ja once said [no names] ''ja is about how you move. not about how good ur poke is.'' although yes, poke helps massive damage. but if i stand still. and poke. i can still be hit. if i run in one direction and poke. i can still be hit. even if my opponent doesent poke.

thanks.

-peace
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


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Oct 27 2005 05:55pm

Bo
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 Bo

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Doing your best? Definitely.
Using everything thats in your powers to achieve victory? Nope.
You see, theres a major difference between these two points. Just look at anysort of sports. Trying to achieve victory by ANY means, even by means which are questionable and usually considered as "unsportsmanlike behavior", is definitely in your powers and should therefore be used? Its definitely in your powers to use enhancing stimulants before the actual competition, to sabotage the opposition by any means or just to try and take them out whilst staying on the edge of the rules. Does that mean you should even consider doing it?
Why does "doing your best" have to automatically include "using everything thats at your dispoal"? Especially when that "everything" contains tactics which are questionable and just generally considered as exploits.
In my opinion, "doing your best" defines the amount of effort and will you put into the achievement of your goals and NOT if you use everything thats at your disposal. The limitation of your available means doesnt have to limitate the amount of effort you put in.

Never have I heard it put so well. N1
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Oct 27 2005 02:15am

Ecks
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 Ecks

Quote:
Doing your best? Definitely.
Using everything thats in your powers to achieve victory? Nope.
You see, theres a major difference between these two points. Just look at anysort of sports. Trying to achieve victory by ANY means, even by means which are questionable and usually considered as "unsportsmanlike behavior", is definitely in your powers and should therefore be used? Its definitely in your powers to use enhancing stimulants before the actual competition, to sabotage the opposition by any means or just to try and take them out whilst staying on the edge of the rules. Does that mean you should even consider doing it?
Why does "doing your best" have to automatically include "using everything thats at your dispoal"? Especially when that "everything" contains tactics which are questionable and just generally considered as exploits.
In my opinion, "doing your best" defines the amount of effort and will you put into the achievement of your goals and NOT if you use everything thats at your disposal. The limitation of your available means doesnt have to limitate the amount of effort you put in.


One of the true Jedi. :)
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Oct 26 2005 11:44pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Agreed, Masta! :D

Oct 26 2005 10:13pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

thats the other side of the coin :)
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Oct 26 2005 10:10pm

Masta
 - Jedi Council
 Masta

Doing your best? Definitely.
Using everything thats in your powers to achieve victory? Nope.
You see, theres a major difference between these two points. Just look at anysort of sports. Trying to achieve victory by ANY means, even by means which are questionable and usually considered as "unsportsmanlike behavior", is definitely in your powers and should therefore be used? Its definitely in your powers to use enhancing stimulants before the actual competition, to sabotage the opposition by any means or just to try and take them out whilst staying on the edge of the rules. Does that mean you should even consider doing it?
Why does "doing your best" have to automatically include "using everything thats at your dispoal"? Especially when that "everything" contains tactics which are questionable and just generally considered as exploits.
In my opinion, "doing your best" defines the amount of effort and will you put into the achievement of your goals and NOT if you use everything thats at your disposal. The limitation of your available means doesnt have to limitate the amount of effort you put in.
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Oct 26 2005 08:16pm

AvaloN
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 AvaloN

my thumbs up for that attitude aswell.

Oct 26 2005 07:18pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

i kinda like that attitude too...
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Oct 26 2005 03:12pm

solitude
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 solitude

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*shrugs* i poke, wiggle and yaw when i see the chance to use it, i can fight just as well without it, just takes longer, and the point is after all to kill your opponent, you go into a duel with 2 objectives, 1. to have a good fight, and 2. to win

i use every single move in my arsenal to do that, be it poke, wiggle, yaw, kata, glide delays etc with Single, to Kata, sabertwirl, and all the different kinds of the Butterfly attack with Staff. the way i see it, if i didnt use every move availabe, i wouldnt be able to say that i have fought my best when the fight is over.


I like that attitude. It's insulting to your opponant if you don't even bother trying.
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Oct 24 2005 07:47pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Long duels are awesome. :D

Oct 24 2005 04:29pm

^Methos
 - Student

*shrugs* i poke, wiggle and yaw when i see the chance to use it, i can fight just as well without it, just takes longer, and the point is after all to kill your opponent, you go into a duel with 2 objectives, 1. to have a good fight, and 2. to win

i use every single move in my arsenal to do that, be it poke, wiggle, yaw, kata, glide delays etc with Single, to Kata, sabertwirl, and all the different kinds of the Butterfly attack with Staff. the way i see it, if i didnt use every move availabe, i wouldnt be able to say that i have fought my best when the fight is over.
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Oct 24 2005 12:42pm

Masta
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 Masta

Mystical magic button =x
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This comment was edited by Masta on Oct 24 2005 12:43pm.

Oct 23 2005 10:35pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
 - Student
 NotSoLittleCaesar

own* >>
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


Oct 23 2005 10:33pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
 - Student
 NotSoLittleCaesar

u cannot ''ow'' wiocek. if he kloses he means to lose...WICEK RULES!
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


Oct 23 2005 10:31pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Anyway.... i owned you Saz....... oneone


so? i owned you too . :P
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Oct 23 2005 06:35pm

AvaloN
 - Student
 AvaloN

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Anyway.... i owned you Saz....... oneone


indeed, Saz = nub :o

:D

Oct 23 2005 05:49pm

Wicek
 - Nugget
 Wicek

Anyway.... i owned you Saz....... oneone

Oct 22 2005 10:12pm

SaZ
 - Student
 SaZ

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So talion, are we happy now?
Oh and masta doesnt "own" anything besides...a computer. >_>


liez!!!111oneoneone :P
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Oct 22 2005 09:38pm

Masta
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 Masta

Thats a yes? In that case, ill leave the ladder now again.
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Oct 22 2005 09:31pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

;3
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


Oct 22 2005 08:52pm

Masta
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 Masta

So talion, are we happy now?
Oh and masta doesnt "own" anything besides...a computer. >_>
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Oct 22 2005 06:58pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
 - Student
 NotSoLittleCaesar

i know fullwell abotu his nick ''ping'' i also know fulwlell of his reputation and respect between the poker and nonpoker community. but respect doesent mean power. or visa versa.
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Oct 22 2005 04:22pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

masta ownz.
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Oct 22 2005 02:29pm

AvaloN
 - Student
 AvaloN

His nickname might be confusing u Tal :)

In here, he is ze Mastz00r!

Out there, he is ze Ping! ;)

Oct 21 2005 08:07pm

Masta
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 Masta

Left it a few days after.
Cant rejoin until tomorrow.
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You may not enter the league until 10/22/05 14:42 as you only left it a short time ago. After leaving a ladder/league, each player/team is barred for a certain period of time.

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Oct 21 2005 07:39pm

DarthMike
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 DarthMike

how is it that you fought me if you were out of esl?
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