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Virtue - Jedi Council  |
Activity is waning in some or alot of areas. This depends of course on whereabouts you live, your time zone etc. But generally, people have been saying recently that whenever they come online, the Servers are pretty much empty. So I ask you this: What would you like to see around here that could help beef up activity in the JA? Please be detailed, I don't expect you to have to write essays or anything, but please don't just post saying stuff like "We need more events!" or "We should have some scheduled fun sessions!" Tell us exactly what it is you'd like to see here. Or things that you think would help boost activity on the servers. So... Go!  - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect This post was edited by Virtue on Mar 20 2006 01:22pm. |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
Deqlyn's right on the money. Once again I'd like to iterate my view on TJA becoming TA. Read my previous post on this thread for more details. It's also the answer to Virtue's highly accurate statement that jka is not diverse enough. Of course I've twisted his meaning to make a point, but what the hell. I very much doubt that you guys will 'think of something to do' that will dramatically boost activity within the ja, you've had well over a year to do that. As for competition, the ja would benefit from this. It's not as if the servers are teeming with initiates trying to rank up within the ja. In fact, it's not as if the ja servers are very active at all. Also read my previous post with regards to competition. Maher's got some pretty cool ideas as well. While some sound a little too derivative of the activities of a clan, I think he's generally going in the right direction (assuming you're going to ignore my idea of moving on from jka). I'm sure taking on board some of his suggestions would only prove beneficial to TJA. _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade
Lag Brother to Acey Spadey 
Jools is my best friend.
<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID |
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Rinzler - Student 
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need a new can of lemonade. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Balian - Ex-Student |
I didnt read the previous posts cause its too long. But we need........ A NEW GAME, JKA IS SOOOOO OLD AND BORING _______________ What man is a man who does not make the world better. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Quote: The Student body are, and will always remain equals in most respects. I can understand that, but if the whole system would be based on free will, like padawan and master system is based on free will, tough. It doesn't matter how many people is on one job, They could form a group, a team for each job. I don't believe that students feel unequality because of assits jobs, althought the new students get unequality feel allready from who is long time student or who is short time student  Ok, that was just suggestion. I have new suggestion... Merits Like give people medals from activity or duelling like member of year or best dueler of year...etc Efforts and this fits for whole JA community.  They are like money support in the real school but in this case you will get just a mention, you are player of year example! Oscar event. Hehe _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on May 09 2006 08:00pm. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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The Student body are, and will always remain equals in most respects. Back when we had the other ranks like Apprentice, Journeyman etc, the JA became too competitive and those with the Journeyman rank in some cases would consider themselves 'higher', or more important than those with the standard Student rank. Also, every rank had to have it's own set of Trials, so all the JAK+ were doing day in, day out was trialing people for these ranks and all the Students were doing was competing with eachother all the time. Also, in order to get an opportunity to take trials for these ranks, you had to attend classes - if you went to a class, the instructor would give you "Class points", each rank had a requirement for class points (For example, if you wanted the rank of Apprentice, you'd have to get 20 class points first) and skill, the skill of which was tested at the Trials of the rank. So as you can see, all of that was bad, BAD for business. Which is why we keep it simple these days. I would actually love to give Students little jobs to do in-game and such, but unfortunatly, JK3 is just not diverse enough. Like "Venture into this cave to find a crystal for your Lightsaber... then build it" - but as I said, the game just isn't like that, as much as I would LOVE it to be. We'll think of something, though, we usually do. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Oh, that just wasn't very clear to me from your other post. But I see what you're trying to say now. |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: I said, I assumed allready that those jobs will step area of JAK, JAT, JAC....etc but I also said more helping hands would be nice too. These jobs are like assistent jobs for those who need help. And I thought we are planning how to increase activity level of JA, so I can see that students/padawans are the areas where are the highest unactivity level. I never ever ever did get a master :p _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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I said, I assumed allready that those jobs will step area of JAK, JAT, JAC....etc but I also said more helping hands would be nice too. These jobs are like assistent jobs for those who need help. And I thought we are planning how to increase activity level of JA, so I can see that students/padawans are the areas where are the highest unactivity level. _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on May 09 2006 04:26pm. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Event Coordinator: Like R2D2 said, any JAK+ can and do setup and co-ordinate events. Archivist: Jaiko and Hardwired are currently working hard on the Holocron which tends to contain articles on the history of the Jedi Academy. It has lots of helpful and useful information in it. There are also three article writers who make articles on the latest happenings in the Jedi Knight community. They interview people and even review particular areas of Jedi Knight. Guide: Any JAK+ should be an example. You'll likely notice that you can freely come to any staff member if you are lost and they will help you where they can. This is something a lot of students do as well, which is absolutely fine. Assistant of the class: JAK+ usually assist classes if need be. Constructor or Architect: DJ Sith handles the website and Virtue is pretty much the academy Architect. Of course, anyone can make mods if they want to. Guard of the server: That's one of the main jobs of a JAK+ - to keep peace around the academy and make sure nobody is being bullied and such. Bartender: That would be nice, but I think you can talk to a lot of academy members if you feel down and they won't let it leave the chat window anyway. Cleaner: People should clean up after themselves.  |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Well like I said these are for student/padawans who feels like JA is routine and they need to move around next level. More addition Constructor or Architect: Well like modding, Modelling, Avatars making, website editing and this kind of stuff. Guard of the server: Like make sure server is peaceful, first at all diplomatic way. But with JA permission Guards of server, They would have several admin commands in use like slap, sleep, punish commands, No Kick or Ban. Bartender: The man who observe your worries of JA, like in the server, The man who listen people talkings and telling back rumors. He have silence duty. When people telling him the secret, he can't spare it. Cleaner: Like cleaning place from shots and so going on.. Dojo keeping service^^ Bartender and Guide are almost same thing but nah, Bartender is for older member and Guide is for newers. I think these kind of jobs for student/padawans ensure, They will check out server everyday. _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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Some very nice ideas Maher. Event coordinator - The JAKs usually take on events from time to time. Putting all the work on one person would be a little too much, but it would be nice to have a Calendar with events, people's birthdays, etc... Archivist/s: Good idea. We have 2 Holocron updaters and a soon-to-be JA Archives with multiple archivists that will keep adding/updating material. Regarding interviews, we do have some staff members that take care of that. But, we don't have someone who could keep track of a simple timeline for the Academy. Guide: We do/did have a Student Introduction Program which provides/ed newer members with an experienced person to be their guide and such to get settled in. Would be nice to get it up and running again like it did a year ago. Assistant of the Class: The JAKs usually assist JATs with their classes if present at the classes. If the teacher ever needs someone as an example or to do anything else, he/she will ask. Very nice ideas _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist This comment was edited by R2D2 on May 09 2006 02:11pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Jobs, Duties for students and padawans! Weekday for Student Dakari. After when I have done all my real life acts, doing some music, waiting for results of my final exams, eat, some sleep....etc. I want to relax in the world of the Jedi Academy, meeting some new players, old players, people ...I duelling some and it is fun, I learn new from the classes...and this is still fun. Checking the forums,mirc and my profile...STOP!!!! Now in this point, This all is just routine, I have made a custom for me. I have also visited on families websites, very interesting but not for me. The Aurochs is nice place and if I get a sponsor, I want to be part of this team. There is a lot actives but somebodies don't just grap them...It is lack of interest or they just don't know them, I dunno. Ok The Thing is,despite of actives, students/padawans have nothing to do. JAK, JAC, JAT...etc, It is obvious why they keep activity because they have duties. I don't say students haven't acts or duties too but JA could give little more like in this case what I am going to suggest. (Eh I am not sure if I repeating some of idea, What is on allready in JA or somebody have suggested this...lol heck I give a shot so) May I introduce the jobs for students/padawans Event Coordinator: He/She is the person who arranging events for JA, only space is boundary for him/her imagination.Archivist: Recording happenings of JA, Interviewing knights,councils,teachers. Updating history of JA. Guide: for those who needing help in JA. Like they can explain habbits and labels of JA for newers example. Assistant of the class: Like if Teacher need to demo something, he asking him assistant help...etc What ever teacher need. Use imagination you can make jobs just how many you ever want!! How you actually note that student have a job? Just little mention for description of your profile like "I am Archivist" I don't know if these jobs step area of JAK, JAC or JAT but I think more helping hands are always nice. P.S I just show sort of direction with these jobs or duties. You can always develop it. _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on May 09 2006 01:08pm. |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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I think there once was a system in which you could go through a variety of ranks: Initiate, Apprentice, Journeyman, etc. I guess it didnt work too well, because people started to compete. (Well, at least thats what Ive heard; I wasnt around at the time  ) Also, if you gotta have a certain rank to be allowed to join a certain level of classes, it'd would also make the classes system much more complex. (Because I think thats how it worked too.) Good thinking though, Wil-Ca, it was a good idea, but apparently adding more ranks didnt work too well last time. _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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There already is a Jedi Master rank. Jaiko is the only one at the moment though. |
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Rinzler - Student 
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the ranks work how they are. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 This comment was edited by Rinzler on May 09 2006 02:04am. |
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wil-ca ketra - Student 
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I just thought of this altho i am not sure if this is too realistic ethir but what if. A new rank was added like jedi master above knights but below the council then the knights right now are moved up to master and the knight rank is changed so it is easyer to get to and has no admin powers but shows that the persone is more experianced this whould also alow more people to be padawons as thare whould be more knights. and people whould have more to strive for. _______________ Form V saberstance user This comment was edited by wil-ca ketra on May 09 2006 12:11am. |
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Everon - Student - The winner!!! 
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Try and stay in the bounds of reality. Editing the game would be hard work and would the result really be worth it? |
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wil-ca ketra - Student
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Quote: I don't understand what you mean by add more stances? Are you suggesting we modify the game? yeah thats why i said it whould be teaching somethin not in the real game _______________ Form V saberstance user |
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Rinzler - Student
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I don't understand what you mean by add more stances? Are you suggesting we modify the game? _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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wil-ca ketra - Student
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well maybe add more stances make things a little more intresting. but that whould be teaching things not in the game. and while the servers apear to be empty its becouse no one joins in. Someone has to be first. usely if you join people will come beleve me i know i do it a lot. _______________ Form V saberstance user |
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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I say... ban yellow stance! j/k _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life This comment was edited by Gil-Galad on Apr 30 2006 02:52pm. |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: Lessons on how to slaughter red stance useres!!!!! >_O lessons on how to slaughter all none red stancers!! _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Mindrith Pride - Student 
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Quote: The peer support program that someone brought up is always a nice thing to have but I'm not sure that it can work out on a large scale, nor as a means of reviving interest, although I'm sure I read that the latter was not it's aim anyway. Generally when I have problems in my life I talk to either friends or family. To those that I do speak to on the net, it's usually the ones that I trust a great deal that I divulge my life's complications upon. I'm not sure I would recognise randoms on the net as being people that I would go to with my problems unless I knew them at some level of intimacy. Having said this, it is an excellent way of making new friends and forming [sometimes lifelong] relationships, and I'm sure that not everyone in the ja harbours my reservations, nor my paranoia - it's a good idea at a basal level yeah i was the one who brought this up. although you make some very good points, both for and suggesting the idea wouldnt work i would like to breifly talk about some of them here now. 1) although most people can and WANT to talk to their family/friends about problems others do not. also for some certain problems individuals may be facing, they could prefer not to talk about it to their friends/family for a number of issues. an example: if say someone thought that they were turning gay, then most people wouldnt feel comfortable talking to friends or family about it. They would instead go to a annomyounos company. like in my town theres a place where young people can come in and talk about sex/contriception. but if that person doesn't have the option of going to one of these places then what better anonamous place than the internet? and i know for a fact that many of the members here are mature enough not to treat people differently because they find out they are different. (if you follow me )2) You said that you would feel more comfortable talking to your family and friends rather than a "random" person here. Well the person doesn't have to be random. Someone could get to know him/her better before discussing such problems and ask around about what the 'buddy' is like. 3) There are many reasons why people wouldn't want to talk to their friends and family, but there are also many reasons why people wouldn't want to talk to people on the internet about their problems. Having said this, my main reasoning for the buddy idea was that people would have the option to be able to talk to others on the internet if they wanted to. its always good to have lots of options _______________ [proud owner of talions 200th, 700th,1111th coment AND 1400th , DJK's 3001th coment! , saz's 400th coment! liso's 800th coment! Kitmitsu Aratan's 1200th comment! Cau's 100th comeent, Alexander's (aka CC) 210th, 888th and 2200th comments! Moriarti's 800th comment , Piccolo's 2000th comment! lirael's 505th comment , Quom Farlance's 120th comment, Alexander's 1800th comment , Eica's 1400th comment , Wicek's 3200th comment lady C's 999th comment, Echuu's 1100th comment, Takaru's 325th and 400th comment, Redeye's 200th comment picc's 3600th comment, Ostith's 50th comment, Elmo's 555th comment] |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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Well, the academy can't really be too competetive without practically turning itself into a tournament arena where there are tournaments held on a very regular basis. Oh, and the winners of the TIT 2005 were R2D2 and Avalon. It wasn't at all cancelled. Quote: Also agreed with adding extra focus to the alternative gametypes; ctf (basejka pure WITH /kill), instagib, tffa and siege, as well as other enjoyable and somewhat differing methods of play, examples being flying classes and tag team tournaments. There are several classes that cover more types of gameplay than just Free For All. Quote: Allowing voting on at least one of the servers is an essential in my opinion as those involved in the community are able to enjoy the facets of the game that THEY choose, not those chosen for them. The only problem with that is it may be abused. It can be used in a character assination attempt, and other situations similar to that. But if I'm not mistaken, sometimes the Aurochs have a server with voting enabled. Quote: Tournaments, although requiring some decent organisation, are an easy and effective method of gaining much needed revival of interest in the game. I agree with this, but as you also stated in a way, if people are too inactive to read the site, unless somebody else tells them, they won't know that there is a tournament. I think the TIT 2005 made a bit of activity, but I guess there needs to be other types of activities than just saber tournaments sometimes. Quote: While it is always fun to have 'Nostalgia Weeks' and the rotation of old maps these have, in the past, failed to attract as many of the old players as we would have liked. Nonetheless, the fact that they are a variance from the general monotony of the same map day in and day out is always a plus. I've heard several people mention this now. the_academy_v2 has been on the servers for over a year now, I think nearly about a year and a half. I'm sure a lot of people will be kind bored of it by now. It's something that would happen with any map you play on regularly, I'm sure. But let's hope that the new map sparks some more activity. Quote: The peer support program that someone brought up is always a nice thing to have but I'm not sure that it can work out on a large scale, nor as a means of reviving interest, although I'm sure I read that the latter was not it's aim anyway. I don't really think there needs to be any program for this. Most people in the academy are willing to hear you out and give you some advice and such. If I have a problem, occasionally I'll just have a chat about it with someone, since it can really make you feel better. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: Lessons on how to slaughter red stance useres!!!!! DONT DO IT. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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