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Jun 19 2006 08:06pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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Bail Hope of Belouve
So, North-Korea has a missle lined up for fire ...
The US threatens that North-Korea should remove it, or action will be taken, while North-Korea replies that it has a right for a missile with which to defend themselves against America.

Cold war? Cubacrisis? Anyone?
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Oct 06 2006 12:14am

Big Boss
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North Korea would certainly be a threat if they learned how to aim the nukes :P

Oct 04 2006 01:25pm

Sared
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Bumped for nukes.
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Sep 10 2006 06:15pm

Vaughn
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Democratic People's Republic of Korea


According to my history teacher, whenever the country calls itself a Democratic People's Republic, you know its Communist.
Atleast, I belive thats what she said; it was a few years ago XD.

Hmm. Ulic that is an interesting thought. Just soI understand correctly, are you pointing us in the direction that NK's 'test' of the USA's missile defense was rather, infact, pushed upon NK by other countries -such as China or Russia- so that they can effectively test out the US's ability without being the aggressors, and thus not getting the blame if a war were to break out, and also not getting the full brunt of a counter-attack?
If that is the case, then I think that everyone should be far more paranoid than they pretend to be, and if its not the case, then well, perhaps we are too paranoid.
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This comment was edited by Vaughn on Sep 10 2006 06:30pm.

Jul 14 2006 05:11pm

Ulic Belouve
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 Ulic Belouve

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why would you want to talk about this via the internet on a forum full of star wars nerds?


Ahem...because not all of us are Star Wars nerds. Some people, like myself, have had the privilege of working and studying at the United Nations in NYC. Don't underestimate the backgrounds and diversities of this group.

I'd be interested in further discourse about what his true motivations are. And what is going on behind China and Russia's doors that they want to talk?

It is posible this is more than just some dude beating his chest, something else is going on here. North Korea wouldn't really do any such moves unless they knew someone else would be there to help them. North Korea has gotten most of their missile technology from Iran, and Russia and China are the ones who sells Iran their technology. Why would North Korea do this? What if these tests by NK are to test our missile defense system, and this has not been the first attempt to test the U.S. defense system.

In April 22 2006 Russian bombers flew into the United States zone of the Artic Ocean undetected by radar or visually, and Russian officers were more than happy to tell this to the world.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060422/46792049.html

Why would Russia, if they are our allies and friends as some suggest, want to do this for?

If Russia was our friend and ally, they would have not done this, and now out of the blue NK appears to be doing the same but this time with missiles? It is true that many of their missiles failed, but if China or Russia did this directly it would be a declaration of war, one which noone would be able to deny, so instead, and exactly how they did with Iraq, and are doing with Iran, they are using their puppets to do their dirty work. Perhaps in hopes that the United States would make the first move, or just to test our defense capabilities.

Now that's just an interesting line of thought. I only bring it up to spur discussion.
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This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on Jul 14 2006 05:13pm.

Jul 10 2006 10:19am

Sared
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 Sared

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Chances are though, even as think as the North Korea leader is, even they wouldn't pick a fight with the top military country.


The problem is that every time his (the leader, beloved or fearless or whoever) pockets start to feel a little light, he starts squeezing his economy for more and more. Once the country starts to look like its going to cave in on itself, he starts to shake his guns at whoever looks like they would be most easily conned into offering a foriegn-aid package.

He's a swindler, plain and simple.
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Jul 08 2006 12:36am

Maher
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Well then I am not human, I am elf:P
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Jul 08 2006 12:23am

Raziel Anjelis
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Even the ideas thought to help humanity gets corrupted to destroy it. Human nature.
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Jul 07 2006 11:56pm

Maher
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There is no reason to shoot any nuclear weapon because Einstein didn't created this theory for killing people, He made it for helping people:(
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Jul 07 2006 09:47pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

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Is it still called North Korea? I thought it was something like Democratic Republic of Korea now...


It Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Which mean its not democratic, its not a republic, and its certainly not the people's.

But that doesn't matter its still North Korea. Just like the People's Republic of China is still called China, and the Republic of China is called Taiwan. And East Germany was actually called The German Democratic Republic. And West Germany's actual name was Federal Republic of Germany.
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Jul 07 2006 09:17pm

Eica
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 Eica

Is it still called North Korea? I thought it was something like Democratic Republic of Korea now...
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Jul 07 2006 07:07pm

Raziel Anjelis
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Ronery......haha. Great :D
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Jul 07 2006 05:25pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

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Unless America makes a way to defend against nukes, fighting North Korea directly is suicide.The results would end up with America as one big mushroom cloud and North Korea the same.

Chances are though, even as think as the North Korea leader is, even they wouldn't pick a fight with the top military country.


Yeah no sorry. NK was aiming at Hawaii, and their missiles failed within 40 seconds. America would not be harmed by anything North Korea could throw at us. We also did activate our missile defense system and it would be interesting to see how that works in a real situation, not that I actually want that to occur.

Which means North Korea would be te nuclear wasteland, we wouldn't. And the only ones claiming North Korea has a nuclear weapon is the North Koreans. They also have a very large military, and likely are aware that a lot of our military is currently occupied in Iraq and Afghanistan. Ronery Kim might be crazy enough to try something.
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Jul 07 2006 04:57pm

Nuebus
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Unless America makes a way to defend against nukes, fighting North Korea directly is suicide.The results would end up with America as one big mushroom cloud and North Korea the same.

Chances are though, even as think as the North Korea leader is, even they wouldn't pick a fight with the top military country.
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Jul 05 2006 02:13pm

AvaloN
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I think we can all agree that history has shown us that communism just doesnt work.

Jul 05 2006 11:10am

Buzz
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 Buzz

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I don't like government of North Korea and that how they announce communism as a only way for everything, Together with CCCP and China they have ruined the idea of communism and all that what communism represent


Yeah how dare that the countries that use communism keep demonstrating that it doesn't work and it sucks to live under it.
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Jul 05 2006 10:45am

Maher
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why would you want to talk about this via the internet on a forum full of star wars nerds?


Because we can. Why do people want to discuss soccer with a bunch of star wars nerds? Why do people want to discuss other games with star wars nerds? Movies? Cars? Computers? Do you only discuss things about work when you are on the job? Do you only talk about school work when you are there?

We're hearing people's views, finding out who you agree with or don't agree with. Talking to other people to see how they think. Attempting to gain new information or to allow others to learn what we have learned. In short WE ARE SOCIALIZING. You don't want to socialize on this topic, then don't post here.

Totally agree with Buzz...

North Korea and Missiles...together very scary thing...I don't like government of North Korea and that how they announce communism as a only way for everything, Together with CCCP and China they have ruined the idea of communism and all that what communism represent(as well as Nazis ruined the idea of nationalism)...

But I think somebody need to do something and I prefer YK's diplomat way for this one...

War isn't answer, War should have never been answer and War should never be answer...(uh that sentence:D)
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Jul 05 2006 10:19am

Sared
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One U.S. government official told FOX News that if it were a Taepodong missile, it was "a real big dud."


I giggled like a little girl when I read that.


/me hugs JK13 :cool:
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Jul 05 2006 05:06am

Buzz
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 Buzz

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why would you want to talk about this via the internet on a forum full of star wars nerds?


Because we can. Why do people want to discuss soccer with a bunch of star wars nerds? Why do people want to discuss other games with star wars nerds? Movies? Cars? Computers? Do you only discuss things about work when you are on the job? Do you only talk about school work when you are there?

We're hearing people's views, finding out who you agree with or don't agree with. Talking to other people to see how they think. Attempting to gain new information or to allow others to learn what we have learned. In short WE ARE SOCIALIZING. You don't want to socialize on this topic, then don't post here.
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Jul 05 2006 03:21am

JK13 /// jaws.
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 JK13 /// jaws.

you didnt answer my origonal question.
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Jul 05 2006 02:21am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Behold the might of Communist engineering and military prowess

My favorite part of the story being this:

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The two U.S. officials later told FOX News that the Taepodong-2 was the third rocket to go up. It failed 35 seconds after launch. A Defense Department official said the U.S. took no action because the missiles posed no threat to the United States or its interests.

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Jul 05 2006 02:14am

Raziel Anjelis
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why would you want to talk about this via the internet on a forum full of star wars nerds? It may be an important issue but to be totally honest i personally wouldnt want to even try to discuss this kind of thing on a forum like this... why dont we talk about the JA or JKA or even starwars stuff, the stuff that dosnt matter. Thats what the internet is for! Stuff that dosnt matter!


They call it the General forums for a reason.

There is a Star Wars and Academy discussion link. People here are free to talk about whatever.

You did click the link, which you didn't have to.
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This comment was edited by Raziel Anjelis on Jul 05 2006 02:16am.

Jul 04 2006 08:05am

Sared
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 Sared

Yeah, what Katan said. Noob. :D
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Jul 04 2006 03:37am

Katan
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But this is the General forums, for anything!
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Jul 04 2006 01:59am

JK13 /// jaws.
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 JK13 /// jaws.

why would you want to talk about this via the internet on a forum full of star wars nerds? It may be an important issue but to be totally honest i personally wouldnt want to even try to discuss this kind of thing on a forum like this... why dont we talk about the JA or JKA or even starwars stuff, the stuff that dosnt matter. Thats what the internet is for! Stuff that dosnt matter!
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Jul 03 2006 12:37pm

Sared
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Bumped because I think this topic could use more discussion.

Anyway, I was talking this over with a friend over dinner last night and we got this great idea going on in our heads.

First of all, China, a "critical ally of North Korea", in one of thier bluntest statements to date, has officially told NK that testing thier arsenal would be 'a bad idea.'

So we figured, just in case China doesn't start tugging on NK's leash enough to get them to stand down, why don't we just turn to Japan and say, "Ya know guys, we think its about time you re-armed." Pull our troops out, and help them re-build thier standing army. I swear, it would make every country within a thousand miles defecate in thier legislature.

edit:// On an unrelated note, the materials used in fueling said missle would undoubtedly corrode and decay the the housing and internals of a Taepodong ICBM in a matter of days. SO, even if this fueling did take more than three or four days to complete (I'm no rocket scientist, ask someone here thats in the military about it), then the rocket, unless emptied of its fuel, (thus an abandoned launch) would be falling apart by now.

If I'm completely wrong on this, please let me know.
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This comment was edited by Sared on Jul 03 2006 01:00pm.

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