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Ian Jandos - Student  |
Majno's post got me thinking about ways we could boost activity here. What if the JA was made available to the public on the pub servers? Obviously, this idea is not fullproof. It allows potential troublemakers in here, plus someone would have to make changes to open/close the server as seen fit. But... If the server could be opened just for certain times. This would give our community exposure, bring new sign-ups and supply some interaction we've never had here before. Plus, it could provide regular times for current members to hang-out. Now that I think about it, I learned about the JA from logging onto a server while the password was not enabled, I kept getting booted. Not being able to play, I searched the web until I found the origin of the map, then signed-up here  -Ian _______________ Member #7625 | Since 7.6.04 The Archives This post was edited by Ian Jandos on Jul 20 2006 06:07pm. |
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Sared - Retired 
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Quote: In that case, I'm heading on to wireplay and showing my dedication to this community .Any ones free to join .-Zeke I'll be honest. I would join you, but right now I'm 3/4ths of the way through Shadow of the Colossus (PS2).  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Everon - Student - The winner!!! 
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Quote: In my opinion, the problem is not how many people are applying to the academy, but just that people rarely choose to join the servers. When the academy was a lot more active, but the servers were empty, all it would take was one person to join a server and it would get full in an instant, most of the time. Now it seems that if a server has few to no people on, most others don't feel it's worth connecting to. If they actually connected, the servers would probably be filled up a lot more. It's only going to be active if you are active. In that case, I'm heading on to wireplay and showing my dedication to this community .Any ones free to join .-Zeke |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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In my opinion, the problem is not how many people are applying to the academy, but just that people rarely choose to join the servers. When the academy was a lot more active, but the servers were empty, all it would take was one person to join a server and it would get full in an instant, most of the time. Now it seems that if a server has few to no people on, most others don't feel it's worth connecting to. If they actually connected, the servers would probably be filled up a lot more. It's only going to be active if you are active. |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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Or we could just not lower the quality of JA servers to kindergarden level. I'm not saying that there are good folks on the pubs. There are, but they are very few and far between. I rather we don't have to deal with the calling of n00bs and such. And explaining time and time again why certain things are not allowed and so fourth. So no...ipbanrange isn't the almighty solution. Cause we would have to take a great deal of time in just keeping watch and explaining things. Again...just a ton of work for little pay. The pubs are there if you wanna play public. And the JA is here if you rather not deal with the public servers. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Sared - Retired
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Although I'll agree that the PR may not be that big, I don't think its that hard for a single staff member to police a single server for an hour once a week. Trouble? ipbanrange, its that simple. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Hardwired - Retired
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Opening them public wouldn't give any more or less PR than we have now. Even if word of mouth would spread the news of public JA servers. So what? The most you would get out of anyone would be a shrug. So there is another set of public servers with JAR mod on it. Not really earth shattering news. And in return we will have removed one of the core things that makes the JA what it is. A controled enviroment where your actions do have consequences. There are discussions as to how boosting activity is going to be done. And this particular suggestion is not one of them. And it probably never will be. There is just too much negative to weight out the positive. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Because the servers are passworded, we are able to keep troublemakers 'outside' and the rest 'inside.' If we want the public to know about us, why wait for them to come to us, while we could come to them? It's like Motrec said, heh. But yeah, maybe some PRing by 'opening up' couldn't hurt. Maybe it's a possibility to have an FFA or a Duel server using Base, which will be the only one open to the public. But yeah, we need to get a server for that etc, it's just a thought. I think all in all, the best way to get known and boost some activity, is indeed to go out and play on public servers ourselves. _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Liso - Student 
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Well I've got a dubble feeling about this. First, I don't think it's a good idea, there are so many troublemakers, sure there are some good once, but I think there are more people like me, who joined this academy ju8st because it WASN'T public, to meet new, honerable people, who will respect you..things I didn't see on pubs. But on the other side, my commercial side is comming up..darn study  It might work..Just make loads of commercials online, on star wars sites, spread the news that the 'famous' ( ) Jedi Academy is opening just maybe one evening/day for the public..so they can check it out and see what it's like..It's like when you are seatching for a new school and you go to these days when the school is open for public, it's kind of the same idea.. It might bring more people to the academy, but it can have a negative effect aswell. As for the security, I think the JAK+ has to be there, mostly all.. And if all goes well, you can even open itr for two days! But I still have my doubs, just thought, I'd blur out my thoughts, for you guys to think about.. _______________ "We make a living out of what we get, we make a life out of what we give." |
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DarthMike - Student 
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So? If someone gets lamed is it going to scar them for life? It can't hurt to try. Obviously something needs to be done to boost activity, and this is the best idea yet. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy |
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Rinzler - Student 
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i really dont think we have the 4000 JAK+ required to police a bunch of public servers. Private community is really what makes the JA the JA. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Everon - Student - The winner!!! 
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Quote: I disagree with every fibre of my being. Besides, this has been brought up numerous times in the past and been voted down each time. Security reasons being the major factor. But also general quality of service and common order. Long story short, it is not doable. - HW I feel the same way, its the main reason I come here. For both friends and security from the pub goers on most nights. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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It can still be a security risk. Even if it were just for a short period, it would open the servers up to lamers, banned members, people with a huge dislike for the academy, and anybody else with bad intentions. This comment was edited by Setementor on Jul 21 2006 03:07am. |
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DarthMike - Student
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I think this is a great idea tbh. If the time open was kept short, I don't think it would cause much mayhem. You guys are WAY too harsh on the pub people, there are plenty of non-laming, non-bitching players out there that show just as much respect as anyone here. _______________ "You can't get Windows on a Mac because the drivers are not compatible." --- Some dude from the Geek Squad "So if you have quad-core, you have four times the RAM, right?" --- Some guy at Best Buy This comment was edited by DarthMike on Jul 21 2006 01:49am. |
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Hardwired - Retired
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I disagree with every fibre of my being. Besides, this has been brought up numerous times in the past and been voted down each time. Security reasons being the major factor. But also general quality of service and common order. Long story short, it is not doable. - HW _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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MOTREC - Student 
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i have to disagree to opening the ja servers up to the public. it has been my experience that even with them private we still have to weed out a fair share of complete douchebags. making the ja servers public would only over burden the already waivering ja admin (jak,jat,jac) the only way ive found to encourage people to come and play on our servers (join the ja) is to do some pubbing and weed out the decent people and make them aware of the ja. our servers have always been private for good reason. we are an elite bunch of people at the ja,(meaning we care about eachother and our community. treating everyone with a great amount of respect.that is what "leet" means in my book) i for one wouldnt like to graffiti up this place with a bunch of hostile, leetist, fucktards. not saying all the pubbies are that way, just want to discourage that sort from even becoming a member, or atleast fix their attitudes. so get a few ja friends together and work out going to other servers, you can do some sweet PR and our servers will remain as they have always been...an extremely nice place where ja students can play hassle and headache free.  burn rubber not your soul... MOTREC This comment was edited by MOTREC on Jul 20 2006 10:50pm. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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then they have no taste on how to play anyway JA+ is teh blaspheme _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Wicek - Nugget 
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I like that idea, but think that people would join some random JA+ server than JA one. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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I do actually agree with you to an extent here. Think about it. If we advertise somewhere on this site when the server is open to the public (Eg, 5-6pm and 9-10pm) people might join and take a look. If they find the server a friendly place to stay, they'll hate waiting for those times to come around, so in the end they'll join the JA, get the password and play whenever they want. I supposed it could work _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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