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JK3 - No Fake! *Whole scaned article*
Mar 29 2003 12:47pm

Aeth S'kray
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Aeth S'kray
Oh my god... oh my god! I got the german magazine GameStar today, and guess what's in there? A worldexclusive report about JEDI KNIGHT 3! It's propably coming this fall! I havent read the whole article yet but I can tell you one thing: It's fantastic. You can create an own character for single player, means you can change race, gender, cloths (!), face.... everything! Looks like they're going to make three styles again: one handed saber, double bladed saber and two sabers. And, you will fight against a rancor. It's just... amazing.
I'll post again when I've read the whole article. WHOOT!


Edit: I have a small link for you to proove it's no fake, the magazine cover:
http://www.gamestar.de/images/magazin/popup-bilder/052003_b.jpg

Edit2: I have some bigger pics for you. They show the article itself with some screens etc.

www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/1_small.jpg
www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/2_small.jpg
www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/3_small.jpg
www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/4_small.jpg
www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/5_small.jpg
www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/6_small.jpg
www.8ung.at/ninja-sith/7_small.jpg

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This post was edited by Aeth S'kray on Mar 31 2003 11:21pm.

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Apr 01 2003 09:26pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

:restatment: I just read the other post, So Raven has announced it, I whithdraw my presvious comment.
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Apr 01 2003 09:23pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

That is not what I mean, it can be it's under construction, but why is there not an uuuhhh..... report from lucasart??? So if they announce a releasa "month" do not get your hopes up. That is what I mean.
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Apr 01 2003 09:07pm

Sniya
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 Sniya

same thing happens with my cpu mag.You get the march version in febuary etc.Oh an the christmas edition is for january!
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Apr 01 2003 07:28pm

Xavier
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 Xavier

lol I can't belive any of you doubted it, why would they fake it?
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Apr 01 2003 02:42pm

Aeth S'kray
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 Aeth S'kray

it is now... check jediknightii.net

hooray for german magazines!! oops, did i say that out loudly? :eek: ;) :P
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Apr 01 2003 10:52am

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Buzz is right. There is no indication from Lucasart that this game is under contruction, and if it is, it way too soon completed. We had to hear from it a time ago.
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Apr 01 2003 01:28am

Buzz
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 Buzz

I'm skeptical not a pessimist. A pessimist would be doubting that it will be released in fall of 2003. I doubt the game's very existence.
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Apr 01 2003 01:25am

Xavier
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 Xavier

Buzz is such a pesimist ::rolls eyes::
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Mar 31 2003 10:38pm

Aeth S'kray
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 Aeth S'kray

that's a silly custome of the mag. the magazine comes out in april (well i got it in march cus i'm subscriber) but it's actually getting uptodate in may. see, if they test a game in april, it's usually available to buy in march. dont ask me, i wouldnt do it that way but somehow they like it. most gamer mags do it in germany... pretty silly huh?

and abot the size, i know i could cut out the pics for ya. but i wanted you to see the whole article. it's not the hubba-buba look i was talking of, it's a serious mag. and i've already reduced size from 5.5 to 1.8. not too bad if you ask me ;)
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Mar 31 2003 10:27pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Here's a question, if this is the April Edition of this Magazine, why is the date on the bottom May 2003?
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Mar 31 2003 10:09pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

didn't need to scan them that big. There are very easy ways to reduce the photo size and have them still be managable. But thanks I've received two so far.
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Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Mar 31 2003 09:11pm

Aeth S'kray
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 Aeth S'kray

allright buzz, as you wish. I've scaned them, 12 MB all together. I will send them in one picture each mail so if your email account doesnt support 12 Megs you'll at least get one or two. They've turned out blury of course, but they're huge (1600x2300) and much better than the ones posted so far. I found out there are actually 2 new moves, means somebody would have had to programm a new animation to fake theese screens which is a LOT of work and quite impossible to do with 2D editing. also there are some high-polygon character models and environement + a beautiful 2D art. why the heck should somebody use this work to do a hoax? he could release it as a mod and become 1000 times more popular. last not least they have an interview with the raven boss, and you dont want to say the raven boss wants to play a hoax on his consumers, do you?
yeah, you say the magazine could faked... but it's not a huba-buba-blablabla magazine, it has some hundred thousands readers and is part of the IDG publisher. man, they would be dead if they would fake anything (which had no reason and has never happened yet in 5 years).

well, check your mail buzz... they will come in soon :)
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This comment was edited by Aeth S'kray on Mar 31 2003 10:09pm.

Mar 31 2003 08:37pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

I don't want the article. I want to see the photos scanned. I want to see larger jpg's than the ones that have been posted online so far. You can have rather large jpg's that can fit easily as an e-mail attachment. So if you have a scanner scan the photos and e-mail some to me, you can find my address in my profile.
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Mar 31 2003 08:27pm

TiTo (inactive)
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 TiTo (inactive)

Buzz, like i said... I could e-mail u the article if u want! But it's in German!:(
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Mar 31 2003 08:21pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

But Tito those rumors of 2004, are all off of an old activision conference call. So you've basically got one magazine, and a short note about a conference call. And Aeth I just want to see more proof. I'm not satisfied with the size of the photos I've seen, I want to see them a little larger. Zooming in on small photos just give blurry images.
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Mar 31 2003 08:18pm

TiTo (inactive)
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 TiTo (inactive)

I have the entire article in German, in pictures! If u want it (High res), just tell me and i'll mail it to u... I can also lay a translation by, if u actually want to read it!:)
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The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito!
Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA"
It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!:) - Officially cured from spamming!!!


Mar 31 2003 08:05pm

Aeth S'kray
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 Aeth S'kray

snyia, its the jus the same as it is now ;) you can activate a function in the setup menu to automatically do a backstab if someone is behind you (you just hit attack instead of attack+back) and you block blaster shots automatically aswell. so i think saber system will work very much the same.

oh, and i'm getting bored of the discussion :P I think it's true as there misses just a reason that someone would risk so much for a dumb joke (raven should do a joke about jk3? are they completly mad or what??) but as i've said before, anyone who does not believe is feel do to it.
geez
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Mar 31 2003 07:32pm

Sniya
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 Sniya

this bits intresting
"Defend functioned still automatically, and the program selects the suitable attack depending upon opponent position as for instance a surprising sword impact to the rear."
So will this academy become more useless and the art of the saber more like childs play???????
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Mar 31 2003 07:02pm

TiTo (inactive)
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 TiTo (inactive)

Well, i've heard other places that it isnt coming untill' April 2004!!! But again, just rumors!:(
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The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito!
Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA"
It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!:) - Officially cured from spamming!!!


Mar 31 2003 06:52pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Yeah the Maps look great. You know if its a joke, and raven is in on it perhaps, it wouldn't be that hard. Also remember that the Maps for KOTOR and SWG are around. And I could have sworn that I saw an image of a character blocking blaster bolts or standing that way. I know the sabers are crossed that way in Jedi Mod when you jump. You see one magazine article doesn't make it real no matter how much you want it. I've never really heard of a game being almost complete after only a year in development. You need concept art, modeling. Map creation. Storyline. And if its going to be non linear story, that would take even more effort. And its almost done after a year? Its just not all that believable to me.
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
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Mar 31 2003 06:35pm

TiTo (inactive)
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 TiTo (inactive)

But the maps looks good! But it looks (not the maps) a lot like JO!!!:( Anyway, isnt E3 in May? And maybe they'll anounce it before, _IF_ it's true!
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Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope...
The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito!
Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA"
It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!:) - Officially cured from spamming!!!


Mar 31 2003 06:21pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

They don't need to mod The main menu though tito. All you need to do is take a screenshot of the menu in photoshop and overlay some character creation bars. I really wish I knew of some Screen shots that show character creation for SWG. So they could be compared.
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Mar 31 2003 05:32pm

TiTo (inactive)
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 TiTo (inactive)

Sorry for the long post:D


As much as you all think it's a joke, it probably isnt. I know they're up to something Lucasarts related at Raven, and this is probably it, unless someones gone to the trouble of editing the JK2 menu to a character customization setup screen... and I cant see that happening for just a joke.


besides, the texture and mapping looks pretty good in these shots, and that double sabered block isnt in any of the mods which emulate double sabers...

Besides, it can't be an April Fool's, since you can only do those ON April 1st, not before.

And as i've said before; Why would one of europe's best selling PC mags risk its credibility for a dumb joke?
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Not back yet... I'll come one day, I hope...
The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito!
Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA"
It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!:) - Officially cured from spamming!!!


This comment was edited by TiTo (inactive) on Mar 31 2003 05:38pm.

Mar 31 2003 05:31pm

TiTo (inactive)
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 TiTo (inactive)

This is the text from the German likes gamestar the situation seems offering no prospects!
Some words couldnt be translated:(:

Five dark Jedis surround us, which gezueckt weapons.
But we only smile cold and activate our two laser swords. While we repel the attacks with very fast, we let the other one fly as from charm hand by the opponent rows. Only an adversary remaining - behind us! We get deeply air, run perpendicularly the wall highly, repel us and land with a Salto behind our astonished enemy. Invisible hands pack its throat, lift it over the close abyss and leave loose...

This scene could originate smoothly from that episode 3-Drehbuch von George Lucas, describes however a typical game situation from Jedi Knight 3. The newest co-operation of LucasArts and Raven concentrates on spectacularly choreographierte light sword duels; boring standard shootings decrease for it in meaning. GameStar was locally in the Wisconsin/USA, as the long time secret Action Blockbuster was revealed Kyle as a veteran we to remind us: Our favourite light sword oscillator Kyle Katarn in Jedi Knight 2 its last large adventure experienced about eight years after the battle around Endor and the death of the Imperators (star Wars 6). Completely besides it won its lost believed Jedi forces back, entriss its friend January Ors the claws of the echsenkoepfigen upper rogue Desann and saved the universe from the imperial super weapon Doomgiver. The Story of Jedi Knight 3 begins some years later. Kyle closed finally its peace with power. Together with hatch Skywalker it informs the Padawan new generation in the Jedi academy on Yavin. The new adventure begins directly with a strong surprise. Kyle Katarn leaves for the first time in the Jedi Knight history the main role to another hero, instead you begin as its talented pupil. First your Jedi training stands on the time table, under the watchful eyes of hatch and Kyle. Smaller orders, until you finally uncover an enormous conspiracy, follow - as it could be different - the entire galaxy threatened. More do not want to betray Raven and LucasArts yet. However did Jedi Knight 3-Projektleiter Steve Raffel that we will experience surprising idioms in the planned 30 play hours of history nearly complete well-known star the Wars universe to visit and clearly more than already in Jedi Knight 2nd Jedi Modedesigner as see he out, promise us the new Jedi hero? You determine that completely alone! From a multiplicity of trousers, jackets, shoes and uniforms cutters it a topmodisches future knight costume. Now only a tasteful colour combination selected, and your hero (or dear heroine?) Wars gangway is ready for the star. Which Klamotten lies in the shelf, depends crucially on the origin of your Jedis. Raven confirmed two races with humans and Twi'Lek only. We count on three further and already look forward however at least to the first Wookie with rosa Zottelfell. Spielerisch do not differ the peoples however. Then the choice of the own laser sword follows. Both color and grasp Design may select you. First you tinker only a conventional a hand light sword. Who works however in the campaign, a double sword model may sketch later, how it uses also Darth muzzle in episode l. Prefer against it the combat style of Anakin Skywalker in episode 2, fuchteln you also equivalent two self-'s building blade around sword or Wumme the prettiest laser sword use few, if one cannot use it styleful. If Jedi Knight 2 was still primarily a Ego Shooter with occasional sword inserts, the successor concentrates on film-ripe close-in engagement duels with the Jedi Lieblingswaffe. One experiences presumably approximately 70 per cent of the play from the pursuer perspective with the sword in the hand.

However you can change still at any time into the Ego opinion and let weapons such as Wookie Armbrust or storm troop rifle speak. Raven wants to even still develop the Wummen repertoire opposite the twelve knarren of the predecessor. Constant ammunition scarceness and clearly more Jedi enemies are to force you however nevertheless to the constant sword employment fights as presented in the cinema than Raven Boss Steve Raffel us the first laser sword duel, mutate our office chair smoothly to the cinema armchair; Close-in engagements of Jedi Knight 3 remind astonishing of that-spectacular duel between Obi Wan Kenobi, Qui qui-Gon Jinn and Darth muzzle in episode 1. Our hero strikes Salti or escapes from hostile attacks with a soil role. It lets swords circle its around itself and chokes at the same time an enemy by power grasp. Raven has the maneuver number increased by more than the double on the simple control is however for nothing to change. Defend functioned still automatically, and the program selects the suitable attack depending upon opponent position as for instance a surprising sword impact to the rear. However because of the three combat styles (in-handle, two-handedly, two swords) the duels will already play themselves very fastidiously. So owners of double sword can deactivate a side, in order to win at speed. Fighters with two a hand swords defend themselves with the weapon and let the other one toward opponents fly. Nice support at matrix: Jedi Knight 3 produces particularly spectacular actions styleful in slow motion. Mission liberty large innovation in your Jedi career: Instead of stubbornly mission for mission, decide you abzuspulen on your next destination. This nonlinear campaign of Jedi Knight 3 is a genuine new fact in the Actionspiel category. Nevertheless history is to run at least just as dramatically as in the predecessor. As functions, Raven keeps still secret. Steve Raffel nevertheless betrays so much: "you have missions, which advance the Story, and you have orders, her with lives fill." We assume that you will select from the Jedi school the next employment, either on a galaxy map or by discussions with masters and colleagues. Some tasks are key missions, which help the action. Others serve simply for the maintenance as well as the development your play figure. All orders have however one together: The club-hard puzzles from the second part land on the space cemetery. Jedi Knight 3 wants to concentrate primarily on Action. Times you look on Tatooine in Jawa Sandcrawlern for missed Droiden, times save you to civilians from a hungry Rancor. And afterwards you complete an employment at the side of hatch Skywalker, with which as only weapon your laser sword is available. Outside and interior scenes are to hold themselves approximately the balance. Additionally Raven plans crack-industrial union-short special missions, for instance the fight against a final opponent or a pure vehicle level. Power development who with the Imperium puts on itself, should not only well laser-fences, but also powerfully power to use. Therefore Raven wants to clearly develop the repertoire at Jedi forces. Many abilities, which there were with Jedi Knight 2 only in the Multiplayer mode, may use you now also in the solo adventure. "view" puts for instance a bright field around all opponents, so that you can recognize your enemies also by walls - practically for a maintained bogenwurf with the light sword. In addition power forces are to be able to be combined in the future: Who activates "jump" and "speed" at the same time, overcomes even the deepest abyss. Owing to improved AI itself however also your opponents of the risen power possibilities are fully conscious and even co-operate: While a Jedi carries you by grasp into air, dissipates other lightnings - like the Imperator in the final of star Wars 6.

In part of 2 your power development was still firmly given, in Jedi Knight 3 decides you, which abilities learn you or in up to three stages to develop. Depending upon desire your hero flirts rather with the dark or the bright side of power - with dramatic effects on history. So the last missions for good and bad Jedis are to play themselves completely differently. Accordingly Raven plans equal two final sequences. Jawa hunt of the predecessors achieved one in the test accurately one year ago Ga-meStar for special atmosphere. It looks everything like the fact that Raven defends this honor. Because the levels shown spray an extra portion star Wars Flair already now. Sand people do not only hunt you in the desert of Tatooine, but also those everywhere herumwuselnden Jawas. The appearance of the dreadful Ran cor (see box P. 55) earns a play OSCAR already now. And in the tendencyful dark temple plants the surrenden laser swords produce an impressing Lightshow with goose skin warranty. Amazingly, which for power reserves Raven still from the Quake 3-Technik kit tent: More highly dissolved textures as well as an intensified use of Curved Surfaces and Specular Mapping almost get the distance to the unreal engine up. For the external worlds Raven uses developed terrain system from Soldier OF Fortune 2, which permits a clearly closer vegetation. Jedi tourism the levels of Jedi Knight 3 are multicolored star a Wars mixture made of film -, Comic and book scenes plus unite self-creations. Raven attaches thereby much importance on alternation: Instead of changing as in the predecessor only all three to four missions the location, you are in the third part in the case of nearly each order new objects of interest to admire. Beside the desert planets Tatooine as well as the usual outguard and temple plants will visit Jedi jedi-Krieger for the first time also the ice planet Hoth - scene of the enormous battle from the Imperium strikes back. The enormous levels of Jedi Knight 2 obtained a episches play feeling, nervten however also occasionally with unnecessary Latschereien and Logikschnitzern. Despite allegedly partly twice as large play worlds Raven wants to avoid these problems in the third part. On the one hand there is to be usually several ways to the goal, approximately with or without power employment. On the other hand you may use substantially more means of transport. Thus the ice deserts of Hoth on the back of the pelzigen riding animal lose Tauntaun already much from their fright. And on Tatooine you will surely be allowed to fly like the young hatch with the Speeder new Multiplayer modes to statement of Raven are Jedi Knight 3 to 60 per cent finished. The work on Story, script sequences and levels is so well finally, now concentrates the developers in Wisconsin primarily on opponent AI and mission Design. Raven with new play variants wants to develop the Multiplayer mode. We assume strongly that it will give among other things vehicle duels. Without a cooperative mode as in NO One Lives Forever 2 we must do however. Since LucasArts is awake extremely strictly over its newest baby, we were allowed to turn still no video. Look forward however to first moved pictures of the Action Blockbusters in the framework our detailed E3-Berichterstattung!
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The madman formerly (and still) known as Tito!
Coming to take back my title as "Most insane 'person' in the JA"
It's the bizzi, wizza, jizzi, Wizzil, Bizon, wizzay, Wizzat, fizzil ¶°TiTo°¶ - All work and no play makes Tito burn the bacon!:) - Officially cured from spamming!!!


Mar 31 2003 04:40pm

Kalheka
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 Kalheka

That girl on the cover of the magazine, the twi'lek with the 2 sabers. It looks an awful lot like a retouch of an Angelina Jolie picture for Tomb Raider guys. I wish I had the picture I'm thinking of for comparison.
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