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Hope there isn't already a thread about this... has anyone else been watching this show? Just watched the first 11 episodes and I think it's freaken awesome; plot, characters, super powers - all of it. I'm hearing Season 1 continues this Monday. Any takers? _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
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<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID This post was edited by xAnAtOs on May 11 2007 02:58am. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: cant wait to see hiro's face when he meets adam
i think hiro wont be as soft-hearted as he was when he meeds adam.  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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cant wait to see hiro's face when he meets adam _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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Thanks Alex and Buzz!! I will look into those!!!!! _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Buzz - Student 
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And 4 months ago was a big disappointment.
The way DL died just seemed rushed and forced. And sure its trying to show why it took 4 months to go see the company for help, but it was almost like an afterthought. HUGE problems with the Nathan/Peter/Adam angle. Adam and Peter escape essentially in the last month of Fourh Months ago. Bob mentions to Nathan that he escaped 2 weeks ago. That's when Nathan got cured. In less than two weeks time Nathan apparently went on a drinking bender, and grew a beard so fast he would make the wolfman jealous of his folicles. Just really rushed and not well thought out. I was disapointed. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Buzz - Student 
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http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/video/episodes.shtml
You can watch from episode 4 through 8 right now on the nbc website smily. Don't have anything easy to access for the first 3 though sorry. It plays just like television with a single 30 second commercial for the breaks. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Smily: I use www.alluc.org, and videostic.com. They basically collect links for tv shows and put them on their website. Just look for 'Heroes' under the tv shows section and click on the episode you want to watch. Videostic is especially good at the moment for Heroes.
There is no signing up or anything and you don't have to download anything, its the easiest way to watch them short of catching them on tv. You can also try searching the likes of: www.veoh.com or stage6.divx.com directly for videos however this can be very hit and miss. If all else fails you can try downloading torrents by searching for 'heroes season 2 torrents' in google or similar, there are lots of different websites that have them up. Torrents however require a download and are sometimes vulnerable to viruses. Hope that helps. 
**spoilers** BTW has anyone seen 4 Months Ago yet? I saw it today, excellent episode, DL's fate is quite shocking... Peter and Adam are awesome, if Adam IS a badguy in this series i'm certainly finding it hard not to like him, great character. Elle is crazy, completely, and utterly. Seems she is Bobs daughter though - anyone else see his reaction to the idea of letting her out? Adding that to the fact she is allowed to walk around yet has grown up at the company... Still there might be a twist down the line. No Matt, Molly & Mohinder and only a glimpse of the Bennets however there stories are fairly mundane anyway. Maya is weird and a little whiney, I kinda hope Alejandro dosn't actually get killed by Sylar because he's had to put up with a lot of crap, poor guy. The Haitian continues to kick ass. The look Nathan gives his poisonous witch of a mother at the end is great, really interested to see if his new blood infusion has had any side effects... What is Angela's power anyway? Bout time we found out in my opinion. Oh and after giving it some thought i'm fairly certain it WILL be Adam who takes out Kaito - he obviously has some connections to the people in that photograph that he hasn't told Peter about. How does he fit in with Linderman and Mauri exactly for example? Good episode _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Nov 13 2007 11:20pm. |
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Smilykrazy - Retired
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oooh, so is it torrent.com or something?  I am not smart with this stuff! thanks _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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SaZ - Student 
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i get them from the torrents, coz in my country TV just started showing the season 1
i suggest you do the same - quality isnt too bad, size is very good too ~350 mb for a normal quality episode. 1gb for high quality
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Smilykrazy - Retired
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Does anyone know of a website where I can watch the episodes of the 2nd season? Koyi and I just watched the entire first season and now I am too far behind on the 2nd one!!! The channel that heroes is on only has the last 5 episodes aired. HELP!!!! This show frickin rocks! Thanks! _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 This comment was edited by Smilykrazy on Nov 13 2007 07:17am. |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: I agree about Elle, makes sense - wonder who the mother is...
im betting nathan's ex-wife ;D i have a hypoteze about bennet and that painting. its like... whenever West mentioned clair's father he spoke of Horn-Rimmed Glasses. those glasses could symbolise his past, secrets shrouded in mystery etc. so killing 'Horn-Rimmed Glasses' would end all signs of this terrible past (maybe even company) and then we would have - noah bennet, clair's father
no matter what mohinder will shoot somebody, it is unclear who will be dead tho ;o _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: Yeah I suppose so... but, regardless it still means that in the timeline that matters those paintings never happened. Meaning there is a slight hope for Bennet. I'm interested to see how it even comes about - despite Mohinder taking the gun I wouldn't have thought he would shoot Bennet through the eye like that, nor could I imagine him being able to seeing as Bennet is a trained agent and Mohinder is a scientist.
Very good. You've got it figured out. The painting happen but not necessarily the way you would expect them to happen. The cheerleader is dead and the floor with HRG standing over her, but it wasn't Claire. Peter laying dead at the school but he's not actually dead. The bomb explodes, Hiro sees it happen, and Isaac creates a comic of 5 years in the future that when Hiro goes into the future he sees the aftermath of the bomb, gets the comic book, which wouldn't exist were it not for the bomb and then proceeds to go back in time. And yet still follows the comic book in the correct order, despite being back in time. Isaac painting a picture in his series of 8 of the future but its occuring 400 years in the past. You see the paintings but they lack the context of the events around them. And they don't always occur the way we think. Mohindar will fire the gun, but its probably not going to be at Bennet. I'm expecting the possibility of the one to actually shoot him being Claire's bf. Although I'm not putting past the possibility of the one to kill the man in the picture to actually be Bennet himself... _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: The explosion did happen. The painting of Nathan did happen everything Isaac has painted happens. The final painting will happen. You are thinking of time with too much linearity.
Yeah I suppose so... but, regardless it still means that in the timeline that matters those paintings never happened. Meaning there is a slight hope for Bennet. I'm interested to see how it even comes about - despite Mohinder taking the gun I wouldn't have thought he would shoot Bennet through the eye like that, nor could I imagine him being able to seeing as Bennet is a trained agent and Mohinder is a scientist. Oh and in an NBC preview of '4 Months Later' it seems to show Peter and Adam meeting at the company HQ. Adam's name is interesting, since he has started being refered to in that way its started reminding me of Adam and Eve. Unlikely as it is maybe he was the first one? I agree about Elle, makes sense - wonder who the mother is... _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Buzz - Student
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Peter doesn't have all his memories back, otherwise he'd have recognized Adam immediately.
am i missing something? how would he remember if he never met him? 
He did meet him. The ticket to Montreal, and the note both point to Peter having met Adam. Quote:
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Think of Adam's power as being about like standard X-men style healing factor ala Wolverine. Well over 80 years old but looks like he's at the prime of his life. Same with Adam. He's a fully matured individual and so his body stopped at top condition and his power is continuously regenerating his cells so he doesn't age any longer. Claire would age and grow until she reaches her mid twenties likely. Although there isn't a guarrantee that their powers are 100% identical, although its likely.
i really hope that matt parkman isnt the only one who improves his powers. with that said... i think adam could be godlike. Technically Nikki has improved her power too because she seems to be fully integrated now, and able to use her abilities without the split personality. Quote: what did the 'golden man' guy say about those storms that happened in the past? could that be Adam?
i have a pretty random idea about that too... maybe Adam has kids? first one = someone with freezing powers, second - nathans ex-wife , third - lightning girl i guess thats just too random He called Adam the visionary. I don't think he has any abilities beyond his healing, but he likely has convinced other to follow him. One of those people was probably the person who caused snow in Miami. Perhaps one of Molly's Parents since that is where Sylar got his freezing ability. Having several Heroes working together to stop a catastrophe, would be what Adam did. I'm willing to bet that Lightning Girl may be a child of Adam's. Maybe a few other Heroes we've seen are as well. Quote:
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The explosion did happen. The painting of Nathan did happen everything Isaac has painted happens. The final painting will happen. You are thinking of time with too much linearity.
i guess we like Noah too much... we dont want him dead. thats why that painting is so scary. if he really gets shot... then i dunno maybe it appears that he is special too and rises again from dead?lol... That's why the painting is there. It is scary. And just like all the others, its going to happen. Isn't that even scarier? And no I doubt if Bennet has any powers at all. Remember what you have seen from the other paintings though. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Nov 08 2007 12:34am. |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: Peter doesn't have all his memories back, otherwise he'd have recognized Adam immediately.
am i missing something? how would he remember if he never met him?
Quote: Think of Adam's power as being about like standard X-men style healing factor ala Wolverine. Well over 80 years old but looks like he's at the prime of his life. Same with Adam. He's a fully matured individual and so his body stopped at top condition and his power is continuously regenerating his cells so he doesn't age any longer. Claire would age and grow until she reaches her mid twenties likely. Although there isn't a guarrantee that their powers are 100% identical, although its likely.
i really hope that matt parkman isnt the only one who improves his powers. with that said... i think adam could be godlike. what did the 'golden man' guy say about those storms that happened in the past? could that be Adam? i have a pretty random idea about that too... maybe Adam has kids? first one = someone with freezing powers, second - nathans ex-wife , third - lightning girl i guess thats just too random
Quote: The explosion did happen. The painting of Nathan did happen everything Isaac has painted happens. The final painting will happen. You are thinking of time with too much linearity.
i guess we like Noah too much... we dont want him dead. thats why that painting is so scary. if he really gets shot... then i dunno maybe it appears that he is special too and rises again from dead?lol... _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 08 2007 12:06am. |
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Buzz - Student
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Quote: I think it will be closer to option two than one certainly. as Yaeko said Hiro IS Kensei now.
Interesting point about Adam: Unless he has aquired a new power (and nothing about him suggest he eats brains), he has survived for well... generations without ageing. Could this mean that once the regeneration power manifests itself in a person they never age past that point? Physically that is? If so i'm not sure what will happen with Claire... Am I missing something? Isaac's painting of the explosion didn't happen? Neither has his painting of Nathan. The Heroes changed the future in series 1 somehow, unless those paintings refered to the alternate future? I hope they don't kill off Noah, he's awesome. Almost as awesome as Mohinder so he better be safe too. Oh and yeah, looking back its pretty obvious that Peter pulled a parkman and took the memories straight out of his mothers mind - she probably pushed her memories of the times they had spent together to the surface. One mystery im interesting in finding out more about is who Peter and Nathan's dad REALLY was. Just because Yaeko said it, doesn't necessarily make it true. Afterall the legend of Kensei still hasn't completed and its 2007. Either one of them has the potential to be Kensei or the Dragon. And I've seen someone else talk about this duality being typical in Japanese parables. Think of Adam's power as being about like standard X-men style healing factor ala Wolverine. Well over 80 years old but looks like he's at the prime of his life. Same with Adam. He's a fully matured individual and so his body stopped at top condition and his power is continuously regenerating his cells so he doesn't age any longer. Claire would age and grow until she reaches her mid twenties likely. Although there isn't a guarrantee that their powers are 100% identical, although its likely. The explosion did happen. The painting of Nathan did happen everything Isaac has painted happens. The final painting will happen. You are thinking of time with too much linearity. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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Quote: Tim Kring Apologizes to the fans
Two possible theories with Adam and Hiro. Adam is the Dragon, and Hiro is Kensei. Hiro is going to be forced to confront Adam, will have to kill him, which killing your hero would be about like cutting out your own heart. Adam is Kensei, Hiro is the Dragon. Hiro inspired Kensei to do the right thing and become a hero. There will be a confrontation and Hiro will convince Adam to be the hero he knows him to be which will require Adam to cut out his own heart, killing himself to save the world. Every single painting Isaac has ever painted of the future has come true. Right now there are only 2 we've seen that haven't occured yet. Just like every other painting he made they will. Quote: Also, did you guys notice Peter remembering all of his memories in the scene with his mom? I wonder if his mom helped do that, or if his mental abilities kicked in again
Peter doesn't have all his memories back, otherwise he'd have recognized Adam immediately. He either only remembered his mother or pulled the memories from her mind. I think it will be closer to option two than one certainly. as Yaeko said Hiro IS Kensei now. Interesting point about Adam: Unless he has aquired a new power (and nothing about him suggest he eats brains), he has survived for well... generations without ageing. Could this mean that once the regeneration power manifests itself in a person they never age past that point? Physically that is? If so i'm not sure what will happen with Claire... Am I missing something? Isaac's painting of the explosion didn't happen? Neither has his painting of Nathan. The Heroes changed the future in series 1 somehow, unless those paintings refered to the alternate future? I hope they don't kill off Noah, he's awesome. Almost as awesome as Mohinder so he better be safe too. Oh and yeah, looking back its pretty obvious that Peter pulled a parkman and took the memories straight out of his mothers mind - she probably pushed her memories of the times they had spent together to the surface. One mystery im interesting in finding out more about is who Peter and Nathan's dad REALLY was. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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Buzz - Student
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Tim Kring Apologizes to the fans
Two possible theories with Adam and Hiro. Adam is the Dragon, and Hiro is Kensei. Hiro is going to be forced to confront Adam, will have to kill him, which killing your hero would be about like cutting out your own heart. Adam is Kensei, Hiro is the Dragon. Hiro inspired Kensei to do the right thing and become a hero. There will be a confrontation and Hiro will convince Adam to be the hero he knows him to be which will require Adam to cut out his own heart, killing himself to save the world. Every single painting Isaac has ever painted of the future has come true. Right now there are only 2 we've seen that haven't occured yet. Just like every other painting he made they will. Quote: Also, did you guys notice Peter remembering all of his memories in the scene with his mom? I wonder if his mom helped do that, or if his mental abilities kicked in again
Peter doesn't have all his memories back, otherwise he'd have recognized Adam immediately. He either only remembered his mother or pulled the memories from her mind. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Nov 07 2007 10:34pm. |
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SaZ - Student
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yet he managed to make nathan attack matt and vice versa.
i think thats reall possible, however since adam is teh main villain now... and he has much more simple power - invurnerability... thats him.. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Can't make my mind up about West now, it was surely either he or Adam that killed Kaito as if it had been Parkman mk I then why all the shadows and secrecy?
i actually thought that matts father just put illusions into Kaito's mind so basically he jumped off himself ;o sounds so easy right? or like that policeman said 'he either fell down and walked away or flew away'... so Adam fits. as for the cure... i think that mexican guy (alejandro i think) will be connected with all this. for example sylar will crap his head open , steal the power and... he will be the only one who can cure. villain becomes a hero if it was just a image ando wouldnt of seen him running at hiro's father _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: Can't make my mind up about West now, it was surely either he or Adam that killed Kaito as if it had been Parkman mk I then why all the shadows and secrecy?
i actually thought that matts father just put illusions into Kaito's mind so basically he jumped off himself ;o sounds so easy right? or like that policeman said 'he either fell down and walked away or flew away'... so Adam fits. as for the cure... i think that mexican guy (alejandro i think) will be connected with all this. for example sylar will crap his head open , steal the power and... he will be the only one who can cure. villain becomes a hero _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Gotta say I saw Adamsei coming a while back. Certainly that Kensei would be a main villain in the story. I pretty much decided he was the one behind the attacks after I saw the helix symbol on his banner was also on the photos, it just made sense and each episode continued to reinforce this however awesome David Anders played the whole drunken non-hero thing.
I got the impression Peter got his memories (at least those of his mother it would seem) by pulling a Parkman and taking them from her head. Angela has shown she can direct her thoughts towards something like Bennett and such. R2: Wasn't the dino just Hiro in the museum with the fake sword? I'd have to rewatch it but it was the same pose. This whole series so far has been excellently executed. Its going fast, but keeping pace with its developments and mysteries. If they ARE under pressure due to the writers strike (something that is incredible, the writers on a show like Heroes should finish what they have begun in my opinion) then its a shame as it means this fast pace is merely to bring the series to a quick conclusion. Originally we were to have 30 episodes including Origins 
Gotta love Hiro - he has been through a lot in Japan, lost a lot too, it was only when he got back to Ando and was (within seconds) smiling and shouting yatta again that I realised it had been missing. No doubt he will be pulled into the Adam/Peter side of the plot when he investigates his fathers death, wonder which other Heroes he will interact with if any? Those old timer heroes are just so damn mysterious! I'm calling it now: Adam or Peter will be the one who's regenerative ability saves the day rather than Claire. Can't make my mind up about West now, it was surely either he or Adam that killed Kaito as if it had been Parkman mk I then why all the shadows and secrecy? Bring Claude back already! Oh yeah and Mohinder is still awesome. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Nov 07 2007 12:43am. |
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SaZ - Student
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i bet Adam Kensei managed to improve his abilities beyound simple 'invurnerability'.
ooooh since kensei is blond.... and lightning-woman is blond tooo.... woot _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Yea, Adam twist was interesting. When I saw Peter's lightning damage get regenerated by the mysterious hand, I had a feeling Kensei would be the person.
Also, did you guys notice Peter remembering all of his memories in the scene with his mom? I wonder if his mom helped do that, or if his mental abilities kicked in again. We still haven't seen Hiro battle the dinosaur yet! Parkman trapping his dad in his own nightmare was nice. When Bob mentioned Adam and the others, there was a newsline with Snow in Miami (or something like that) from a long time ago (well, it seemed like that atleast). Guess someone will be having similar abilities as Storm from X-men. _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Holy %#@@in $#*@! did NOT see the Adam twist coming! and Peter continues to be a badass.
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SaZ - Student
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damn last episode was insane!
so many character stories solved and new ones starting to appear. Adam... lol i fell out of my chair there. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 06 2007 08:49pm. |
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