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ZantuS - Student  |
http://templeofthejediorder.org/index.php
Wow... Someone's jedi oath on that site: Quote: I profess before all my fellow Jedi, that I Aaron Johnson born on June 05 1975, without reservation, choose the Jedi path, with all it's duties and responsibilities, I shall do that which is right and profess my allegiance to the Force and it's will. I vow to uphold the Jedi teachings, and to henceforth devote myself to the life of a Jedi. _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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ZantuS - Student 
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So, that oath of yours, have you done it on the forums there? Or just making it here to stop/prevent this ridiculing? Please excuse my lack of time and patience because I'm not searching their forum thoroughly enough.
Do YOU feel this "Force"? _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" This comment was edited by ZantuS on Jan 27 2009 03:20pm. |
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†Johauna Darkrider†- Student 
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It's easy to judge others and their beliefs. And trust me, claiming 'that is impossible' is as bad as when someone religious tries to convince you about 'one and only' religion, despite of you telling them you are not interested.
Laughing at someone for their beliefs is disrespectful, and let me tell you one thing - if you think that if something is not seen and therefore it doesn't exist - following that logic, you could say that wind doesn't exist. You don't see wind. You feel it. The same is with the Force. Don't like people who critize and never are able to tolerate others opinions without riciduling them. It's called respect - and it should be mutual. If you are unable to be respectful and tolerant, well... can't change you, but it certainly gives me a view on you. As far as i'm concerned.  Johauna
PS: If you want to laugh, go ahead, here's my own oath, so if you feel need to laugh, i'll be your target, if it makes you feel any better: Quote: "I profess before all my fellow Jedi that I, Jana Otahalova born on October 9th, 1984, without reservation, choose the Jedi path, with all its duties and responsibilities. I shall do that which is right and profess my allegiance to the Force and its will. I vow to uphold the Jedi teachings, and to henceforth devote myself to the life of a Jedi.
May the Force be with you." _______________ Johauna's Bio | When I am GRANDMASTER...! | StarCraft II Protoss Learner | Wannabe GrandMaster Leaguer | How to NOT play StarCraft II Specialist |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Hang on..
Right.. Force pull my cup of milk into my hand from about 6 inches... *extends arm and opens up hand in cup holding manner, whilst willing the cup moving into my hand* ... ... No. Had to reach for it. Damn. _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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No nerves stricken at all! _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Cloud Senatu - Student 
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Well, I was just giving you my point of view on the matter, my own sense about it...
I didn't say that to make you think that the Force DOES exist, just my point of view on the matter that the "Force" could exist... I don't mean to get on peoples nerves with my point of view... This comment was edited by Cloud Senatu on Jan 25 2009 08:55pm. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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It would surprise me to no ends if he was actually extradited here. Thing is, he would most likely be given a six figure job in the CIA instead of an execution. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: I doubt there are people who could bend spoons with their thought alone (they could cash in millions of dollars through the challenges provided by people who do not believe in such powers), but I don't doubt that military organizations have put in millions researching the subject.
Let's all raid our nation's military headquarters and see the truth! We can get alien existence, cure for cancer/aids, Nazi gold and all of those supposed government cover ups over with while we're at it. Someone tried to do this to the USA. They want to extradite and execute him. 
(Gary McKinnon for those who are curious.) _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge  Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Religions, ideals/isms have given to the people the principles of how to follow their ethics...
and if It makes you better person... why not... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Laziana - Jedi Instructor 
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Hm... a RL Jedi religion without the actual usage of force powers as they kinda don't seem to exist in the first place...
Why building a religion and saying "I am a Jedi."? I think you can have that all if you just follow some simple guidelines that many people seem to have trouble with: - Be a nice person (no dumbjack) and use your common sense I guess that's all you need. Then again... if devoting yourself to something like a Jedi can help you becoming a better person, then go for it. _______________ Proud owner of Buster Senatu's 200th & 300th, Muro's 370th, Maher's 2100th, Henkes' 1639th, Johauna's 400th, 666th and 900th, Sho Koon's 2000th and Kain Sol's 600th comment Download Laziana's lightsaber here! Glory to Arstozka! |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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I doubt there are people who could bend spoons with their thought alone (they could cash in millions of dollars through the challenges provided by people who do not believe in such powers), but I don't doubt that military organizations have put in millions researching the subject.
Let's all raid our nation's military headquarters and see the truth! We can get alien existence, cure for cancer/aids, Nazi gold and all of those supposed government cover ups over with while we're at it. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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solitude - Jedi Council
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Quote: Well, if you look in the bible, the force could actually exist...
We've only discovered 10% of the human brain, for all we know, what's held in the other 90% could be that power. If you read in the bible, Jesus walked on the water, he called Paul out to him, Paul got out of the boot and started walking on the water. Paul only started sinking when he looked down and started to doubt what he was doing. My point is, if you believe in something enough, and I don't just mean say to yourself you believe, I mean TRULY believe, such aspects can be done. If you watch the movie Phenomenon, with John Travolta, you'll see that he moves a pencil back and forth with the motion of his hand. You'll also see that he had a tumor. What was happening, was the tumor was pressing against certain nerves in his brain, "unlocking" the ability to do what he was doing to the pencil. Now, I'm not saying I can do this, as I don't have enough belief in it, all I'm saying is that for one to TRULY believe with his soul that he can do something like move a pencil with the wave of his hand, then they can do that. BTW; Have you ever heard of an Empathic Bond, or Premonitions? Most people will say this is witch-craft. Witch-Craft is the practice of spells and such. but if you just have Premonitions in like your dreams at night, that isn't witch-craft. Anyways, where I'm going with this, is that these are some things that our mind can do. I know this because I have them. I've had slight/small premonitions in my life. I also share a strong Empathic Link with my girlfriend. The first most glaring issue with this argument is the claim "We've only discovered 10% of the human brain". This seems to be based off an urban legend. We have a pretty good idea what almost all of the brain does (in terms of function). This is a misunderstanding of research which showed that we only use 10% of our brains *at any one given time*. If you want to believe in supernatural powers, that is your choice, but there is no scientific basis for this belief whatsoever. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Quote: This makes me wonder...have people attempted a Sith religion?
Yeah but it only has two members. "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" blah blah.
Quote: Dont know about you guys. I try force pull in RL all the time. Never works. Someday it will though, i'm sure of it, lol.
 Likewise, of course. Those times when the remote for the telebox is just out of reach, and well, you never know! _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Jan 25 2009 12:32am. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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This makes me wonder...have people attempted a Sith religion? _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: Well, if you look in the bible, the force could actually exist...
We've only discovered 10% of the human brain, for all we know, what's held in the other 90% could be that power. If you read in the bible, Jesus walked on the water, he called Paul out to him, Paul got out of the boot and started walking on the water. Paul only started sinking when he looked down and started to doubt what he was doing. My point is, if you believe in something enough, and I don't just mean say to yourself you believe, I mean TRULY believe, such aspects can be done. If you watch the movie Phenomenon, with John Travolta, you'll see that he moves a pencil back and forth with the motion of his hand. You'll also see that he had a tumor. What was happening, was the tumor was pressing against certain nerves in his brain, "unlocking" the ability to do what he was doing to the pencil. Now, I'm not saying I can do this, as I don't have enough belief in it, all I'm saying is that for one to TRULY believe with his soul that he can do something like move a pencil with the wave of his hand, then they can do that. BTW; Have you ever heard of an Empathic Bond, or Premonitions? Most people will say this is witch-craft. Witch-Craft is the practice of spells and such. but if you just have Premonitions in like your dreams at night, that isn't witch-craft. Anyways, where I'm going with this, is that these are some things that our mind can do. I know this because I have them. I've had slight/small premonitions in my life. I also share a strong Empathic Link with my girlfriend. No, there are soe m things you believe our mind can do. very big difference. And what you're saying is the bible says so so it must be tue, when in fact you're just saying the bible is true, and presuming so is rather ignorant. Basing one 'religion' off the writings and beliefs of an entirely different religions holy book is.. well.. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Komence - Student 
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i'm sorry, that was one of the most ridiculous things i've ever read |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Dont know about you guys. I try force pull in RL all the time. Never works. Someday it will though, i'm sure of it, lol.
What I would like to ask is, the person who has chosen to follow in the way of the Jedi, does that mean he wont marry either? Or is he gonna take a leaf out of the new Jedi orders book and include that little rule which was previously forbidden? _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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Cloud Senatu - Student
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Quote: Is force destruction enabled IRL?
I Don't know... I wasn't talking about ALL the force powers, as I highly doubt you can shoot lighting from your fingers. What I was talking about was small things, like the ability to push/pull objects, or even jump to extreme heights... |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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Is force destruction enabled IRL? _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Cloud Senatu - Student
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Well, if you look in the bible, the force could actually exist...
We've only discovered 10% of the human brain, for all we know, what's held in the other 90% could be that power. If you read in the bible, Jesus walked on the water, he called Paul out to him, Paul got out of the boot and started walking on the water. Paul only started sinking when he looked down and started to doubt what he was doing. My point is, if you believe in something enough, and I don't just mean say to yourself you believe, I mean TRULY believe, such aspects can be done. If you watch the movie Phenomenon, with John Travolta, you'll see that he moves a pencil back and forth with the motion of his hand. You'll also see that he had a tumor. What was happening, was the tumor was pressing against certain nerves in his brain, "unlocking" the ability to do what he was doing to the pencil. Now, I'm not saying I can do this, as I don't have enough belief in it, all I'm saying is that for one to TRULY believe with his soul that he can do something like move a pencil with the wave of his hand, then they can do that. BTW; Have you ever heard of an Empathic Bond, or Premonitions? Most people will say this is witch-craft. Witch-Craft is the practice of spells and such. but if you just have Premonitions in like your dreams at night, that isn't witch-craft. Anyways, where I'm going with this, is that these are some things that our mind can do. I know this because I have them. I've had slight/small premonitions in my life. I also share a strong Empathic Link with my girlfriend. |
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ZantuS - Student 
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Haha I'd like to have a little chat with someone who says they possess these 'force abilities' _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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When I say "use the force" I mean force push irl. I'm not a big fan of any religion and I'm not nit picking. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: The problem I always saw with people trying to make Jediism a religion is that they often impose ranks and people claim to use the force. Strip everything away, except the core philosophy, and you have a fairly level headed way of life. That can be said for a lot of faiths. The metaphysical fluff is half the fun though.
EDIT: I mean, for a lot of people, it takes some pretty wild claims to get them to practice the good things some religions have to offer. Just take a look at trash like Scientology - at it's core, it contains some good ideas about self-actualization and other neat psychological principles, but it also contains a great deal of insane wooo to get people to buy into those sound principles. Again, as long as it's good for both personal contentment as well as social development... _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Jan 23 2009 10:41pm. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: The problem I always saw with people trying to make Jediism a religion is that they often impose ranks and people claim to use the force. Strip everything away, except the core philosophy, and you have a fairly level headed way of life.
Force is just as a logical concept as most religions.. tbh. Its just said in a different way. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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The problem I always saw with people trying to make Jediism a religion is that they often impose ranks and people claim to use the force. Strip everything away, except the core philosophy, and you have a fairly level headed way of life. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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As long as it helps you to become a better person... _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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