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Maher - Jedi Knight  |
Because It is, indeed, a neat thing to share thoughts with each others about everything...
So This topic is going to be about everything and only about everything... Yeah you can put on some crazy stuff if you are feeling like that way, but so that nobody will get offended... Let the thoughts flow in! and lets try to found reason for everything! So what you think about this topic, about your life and about everything...? If you don't find anything major, instead of try something minor and see how It will develop... b00m! People go and think! EDIT: Due to some recent happenings on this topic... It made me to create first rules 
RULES: 1. Please don't diss the philosophy 2. If you don't like it, leave it! 3. If you like it, you post on it! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This post was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 10:15pm. |
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Kaelis - On Leave 
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Clink (Shiny New Padlock)
First of 2009 - Into the abyss it goes Bye Bye 
closed by request of the creator _______________ Padawan of Roan Belouve, brother to Acura, Proud to be part of the Belouve Dynasty, Proud Owner of Jarhok's 430th comment, Dash Starlights 1600th comment, Saz's 5000th comment and Alex D'Kanas 2100 comment This comment was edited by Kaelis on Feb 02 2009 08:45pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Fair enough ? But why you are so fueled my friend... 
I'm only one part of this topic... and I'm bringing up my opinions ? and because people are thinking I'm strong personality then I think I'm winning something >_> _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Komence - Student 
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oh, so in other words rather than actually contributing anything based on your personal opinion you're going to offer opinions that you don't fully believe in order to stir up pointless discussion? |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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You also forget this...
Quote: eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
EDIT: Quote: oh, and it's not really fair to ask Cuthalion to stay off this topic. he was asked a question by Masta and he answered it.
eh ? Philosophy is what philosophy is ? It is happening everyday _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 08:46pm. |
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Komence - Student
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WELL cuthalion, i've hardly seen literary mastery in this topic!
to maher, Quote: Sazabi I did say... I don't believe totally in logic ?
Quote: and I don't believe in logic,
oh, and it's not really fair to ask Cuthalion to stay off this topic. he was asked a question by Masta and he answered it. This comment was edited by Komence on Feb 01 2009 08:44pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: In all honesty I don’t care much for philosophy, it’s very unfocused methodology and circular arguments I find no need for.
Lay-mans term:- To airy – fairy. I only deal in fact. Stay off this topic then ? _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Quote: Cuth, could you please define the term "convoluted argument"?
Sure. If you were to look up convoluted up in the Oxford Dictionary it would read:- (of an argument or story) very complex. 2. folded or twisted in a complex way. Argument:- a heated exchange of conflicting views. 2. a set of reasons in support of something. By “convoluted argument” I mean the unnecessary use of ambiguous words to try and compound upon the reader that the argument put for by yourself is indeed the correct one, and thus by using such wording is a brief attempt to confuse the reader and disguise ones argument in a veil of literary mastery, instead of being able to convey ones argument in ‘lay-mans’ terms. In all honesty I don’t care much for philosophy, it’s very unfocused methodology and circular arguments I find no need for. Lay-mans term:- To airy – fairy. I only deal in fact. Peace and love folks _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol This comment was edited by Cuthalion on Feb 01 2009 08:30pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Like I said you truly are incorruptable...
isnt corruption a bad thing? and since you are speaking about illogical things dont you mean that everything you say isnt really good? :] Quote: I did ground my argument why logic doesn't work perfectly...
you 'grounded your argument' which means you used logic. and yes it didnt work thus your point about logic not working is right
well... atleast in your case. and if this sounds illogical to you... that means illogic things dont work either
Quote: I'm not saying, I'm the wise... cheese, though, is. Sazabi I did say... I don't believe totally in logic ? Quote: Wittgenstein would have been proud.
Lirael would you mind to explain... Who was this gentleman ? Because I don't know... and I don't like to be 'google' cheap...
At the moment I'm basing my arguments totally for different kind thesis of east religions _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 08:30pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Like I said you truly are incorruptable...
isnt corruption a bad thing? and since you are speaking about illogical things dont you mean that everything you say isnt really good? :] Quote: I did ground my argument why logic doesn't work perfectly...
you 'grounded your argument' which means you used logic. and yes it didnt work thus your point about logic not working is right
well... atleast in your case. and if this sounds illogical to you... that means illogic things dont work either
Quote: I'm not saying, I'm the wise... cheese, though, is. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Feb 01 2009 07:26pm. |
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Lirael - Jedi Council 
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Maher,
I define 42 and any other natural number by set theory. Furthermore I congratulate on your clarity: Quote: You are existing allready... That's your true meaning...
Quote: Meaning of life is that It exists...
Wittgenstein would have been proud. Quote: before the big bang’
If we could ever acquire information about before the big bang, it would be scrambled beyond recognition. Quote: God is just a definition or a value for something, when physics don't explain everything’
A God of the gaps eh? I know many a theist that would be irate at being so misrepresented Janitor, Quote: The laws of physics can be applied to anything, nothing can 'not be explained.' some things are yet to be explained, sure, but the laws of science, are as far as we know, a universal medium
Physics can be applied to any empirical thing. Its highly probable that only physical things exist. Unfortunately it cannot be applied to metaphysical or immaterial, like our beloved flying spaghetti monster – hence I have witnessed many long discussions with CU members who just don’t comprehend the concept of circularity or external justification. Gotta love those language games <3 _______________ I can write my name with my sparkler. My sparkler > your lightsabre |
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Cydon - Student 
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Maher stops for today, because he is coming to play MBII with me!  |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Lets just move along, because this debate of mine and Qin isn't leading to anywhere...
and haha! Zantus is right 
Also SaZ... I did ground my argument why logic doesn't work perfectly... Human's logic always fails one way or another
I'm not saying, I'm the wise... I'm more like making people to think again
So people! Ethics is good subject to move along... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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How do you mean incorruptable. Because im all for debates. /reads zantus artice. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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(a_man_of_logic&science + a_man_who_doesnt_believe_in_logic) x argument = chaos _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Quote: no. Just no.
It is all there... Like I said you truly are incorruptable... But now I want to play more with my sandbox mates! Free World and Comrade Masta... 
How about your morality, ethics ? like Zantus did partly open this discussion... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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and I see you allready struggling at it
Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
i fail to see difference between these phrases and 'you dont understand anything' statement you said before lol Twas the point. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: and I see you allready struggling at it
Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
i fail to see difference between these phrases and 'you dont understand anything' statement you said before lol when you are out of arguments youll just throw a simmilar phrase to those to escape further discussion. my 2 evil cents. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend I'm struggling how exactly? Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
GG! no. Just no. Fact is, im yet to experience anything that is entirely un-explainable. Thus im a man of science and logic. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend I'm struggling how exactly? Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
GG! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend I'm struggling how exactly? _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Im a fan of science, proven or other-wise. I'd rather reason with logic than with a higher power which has yet to do anything or show 'it' exists. eh... God is just a definition or a value for something, when physics don't explain everything 
I'm atheist, did you know ? and I don't believe in logic, because discussing and working with people... It asks more creativy than logic
Because humans are creative beings... I need to treat them like that way... 6 Billion different kind of People and my creativy is only over 9000! You don't believe in logic?Right.. im not even gonna start on that one. The laws of physics can be applied to anything, nothing can 'not be explained.' some things are yet to be explained, sure, but the laws of science, are as far as we know, a universal medium. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Quote: Don't you worry, Imperialists. Revolutionary cells are stocking up on the latest weaponry and ammunition that you, my dear Capitalists, have sold them, for which i thank you sincerely. I'm sure that, once we decide to hang you, you'll sell us the ropes as well.
We sell you outdated weaponry! You will have to reverse engineer the good stuff like the spy planes we accidentally crashed near your nuclear facilities. Also, you will need the rope to tether the long lines that are common place in communist states! _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: Im a fan of science, proven or other-wise. I'd rather reason with logic than with a higher power which has yet to do anything or show 'it' exists. eh... God is just a definition or a value for something, when physics don't explain everything
I'm atheist, did you know ? and I don't believe in logic, because discussing and working with people... It asks more creativy than logic
Because humans are creative beings... I need to treat them like that way... 6 Billion different kind of People and my creativy is only over 9000! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Firstly, that was a pointless comment.
secondly no, i haven't said anything is a fact, nor that anything is wrong. Im arguing the point. I dont believe in any 'higher power', not by any conventional means. Apart from the spaghetti monster. Nope It wasn't pointless comment as It enlightened a lot to me
As in what did you believe... Well yeah... About that cheese ? Cheddar, maybe ? Cheddar, mild. Im a fan of science, proven or other-wise. I'd rather reason with logic than with a higher power which has yet to do anything or show 'it' exists. L _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: Firstly, that was a pointless comment.
secondly no, i haven't said anything is a fact, nor that anything is wrong. Im arguing the point. I dont believe in any 'higher power', not by any conventional means. Apart from the spaghetti monster. Nope It wasn't pointless comment as It enlightened a lot to me
As in what did you believe... Well yeah... About that cheese ? Cheddar, maybe ? _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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