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planK - Jedi Council  |
I was wondering, has any thought been given into the JA possibly making a transition into a school for TOR? My old clan is taking the approach of becoming a TOR community site, and I think the JA could do one better by essentially becoming the top information base and instruction academy on what is sure to be one of the best MMO's ever.
Not trying to say JKA is dead or anything, but it's an idea and I wonder if you guys up there have given it any thought. Also, I AM GOING TO BUM YOU ALL <3 |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Star Wars: The Old Republic (SW:TOR), a massively multiplayer online game, is a type of game which you usually pay a monthly fee for and are granted access to make characters in that game's virtual world, where many, many other players also reside. SW:TOR, in particular, takes place in the Star Wars universe approximately 4000 before the movies and is considered the third game in the Knights of the Old Republic series of games. Further versions of the game will likely be released as updates or expansions to the game. |
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Va'kion - Student 
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Sorry to inturrupt, but could you fill me in about what TOR is?
I'm not really sure what it is! Respectfully ~Va'kion _______________ I'm a resident Ashlan Philosopher |
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Kainz00r - Jedi Knight 
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TOR does look to be quite awesome, assuming it's not a time demanding, soul consuming grindfest but has other cool features to keep it alive, I think discussing it here would be great for activity, since I assume a lot of people here will end up playing it anyway _______________ Fervent supporter of duelling - leave a message if you would like to battle! Married to Masta. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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Your communist ways blind you, Masta! It will only be a matter of time before your government issued cola will be renamed "Red Cola (a product of Coca-Cola)". _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Feb 25 2009 09:40pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: I'm all for that. It would introduce a great amount of activity into the JA
since there is no other quality multiplayer game coming out... i guess we have no choice  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Quote: As Masta said, curious players might venture into the dark abyss that is JKA (hopefully avoiding the path of the damned that is JA+). I think that's fairly easy to arrange, since the JA will be very happy to teach them all the basics and whatnot, staging propaganda campaigns against these kinds of mods as they go.
PS: I'm sorry to hear you're still in denial of what is historically inevitable. Don't worry though, our revolutionaries will make sure to provide you with a good fight, so you can be buried with the knowledge of having died bravely for a corrupt, anti-social system. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Quote: You will drown in your government issued vodka, Masta! Capitalism reigns supreme!
Your capitalism/communism concept < Plankcore... Because he's the stud! Besides TOR rocks your socks... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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You will drown in your government issued vodka, Masta! Capitalism reigns supreme!
On a side note, we could always make a new forum dedicated to making guides and whatnot for that game. It is surely to become one of those really popular mmorpgs that cause many to neglect sleep in favor of the game's equivalent of raids. As Masta said, curious players might venture into the dark abyss that is JKA (hopefully avoiding the path of the damned that is JA+). _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Feb 24 2009 10:54pm. |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor 
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Um so is this game coming out soon then? _______________ INTP |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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I'm all for that. It would introduce a great amount of activity into the JA, and possibly persuade some of the newly joined players to go ahead and try some JKA, increasing activity on the servers as well etc. Besides, i get to spread communist ideas amongst a wider user-base, getting many new comrades in the process. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Not all games that require skill involve twitch based movement gameplay.
Teaching can involve a lot more than what even TJA currently offers, and they key point here is that should this particular game have decent gameplay and feature an authentic Star Wars experience then is it worth TJA setting aside a part of itself to cover it? Considering its massive online potential TOR is probably the best bet that has come along in a fair while. Regardless of the inevitable idiots, its a big community with hopefully enough room to manoeuvre around them. This is all presuming the game is worth playing, although Bioware do have a good track record and even SWG was fun for a while in the long long ago. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: if tor is actually good and doesn't require a huge time commitment i'm def for the transition. with that said, it is prolly gonna suck.
Don't think so. Its made by bioware, and sony wont have enough power to eat its soul. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: There are MMOs that take skill to succeede in, not all of them are "Potion-war-mmos", where the gear and potions, lol, make the winner. For example PvP in Guild Wars is all about strategy and stuff, the right usage of right skills etc. And Gw can't be the only one.
that one might be an exception, since movement and real time things play much more important part than in ANY other mmorpg. you can also dodge 'orb' based spells and attacks and loads of other things. wow doesnt count, because people only twirl around each other to backwhack, so much for movement lol. a lot of mmos go with their ads like 'new generatio mmo!' when they are pretty much the same stuff. i dont think we will see a very big exception with swtor. remember, its being made for all the world, not just TJA. the world - all the kids, all douches with no brain, fags, retards. its bound to be simple. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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if tor is actually good and doesn't require a huge time commitment i'm def for the transition. with that said, it is prolly gonna suck. |
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Alex Dkana - Staff
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I'd say while a different style of game even 'simple' MMOG's require skill to master. Each class has its own quirks, abilities that are good, abilities that are not so good. When to use them, how to properly utilise your ability's and such in pvp and large scale pve scenario's...
Certainly it doesn't have the variety of the JK series, but then there are only so many 'winning' strategies for that as well. In the end we are all just keyboard and mouse bashing surely? _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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ZantuS - Student 
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There are MMOs that take skill to succeede in, not all of them are "Potion-war-mmos", where the gear and potions, lol, make the winner. For example PvP in Guild Wars is all about strategy and stuff, the right usage of right skills etc. And Gw can't be the only one. _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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SaZ - Student
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Quote: I'm sure it's not the skill that the JA could teach, but the knowledge.
What is good for certain classes, weaknesses of certain creatures, not to mention builds and the list could go on... everything in mmos are made to be as simple as possible. imagine world of warcraft or guildwars were in starwars theme. how many 'classes' or 'teaching' do you imagine in those games? while we still dont know much about the game, from the video showing lightsaber fights it looked like two duelists standing near each other and mashing their keyboards. its just pressing a key at specific moment, you cant go wrong there. you either press it in time or not. you cant miss, unless there is a 'miss' system due to your lack of 'accuracy rating' or something. even then - the only advice would be to increase your level or get 'accuracy rating' increasing items or something like that. so the huge topic of 'aiming' of JKA can be explained in one short sentence in MMO. <bold, italic, size 9000 word 'Et cetera' goes here> _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Feb 24 2009 04:11pm. |
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Sho Koon - Student 
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I'm sure it's not the skill that the JA could teach, but the knowledge.
What is good for certain classes, weaknesses of certain creatures, not to mention builds and the list could go on... _______________ Proud owner of Malak's 50th and special 300th, Alex D'Kana's 3600th and 4000th, Laziana's 200th and [Jawa][Obi-Wan][SW]'s 1300th comment. |
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SaZ - Student
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Teaching in an MMO would be good, but only to a degree; you could only teach basic stuff which most will learn anyway on their own.
I disagree because MMOs are too big to learn everything about to be honest. Also, there's nothing there you couldn't say about Jedi Academy as well and as many cases show, the last sentence isn't always so. oh, but Sete - MMOs are made to be simple and casual - otherwise they wouldnt sell. thus you might only need introduction part and a few tips later on. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Quote: Teaching in an MMO would be good, but only to a degree; you could only teach basic stuff which most will learn anyway on their own.
I disagree because MMOs are too big to learn everything about to be honest. Also, there's nothing there you couldn't say about Jedi Academy as well and as many cases show, the last sentence isn't always so. |
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Kaldør - Student 
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Teaching in an MMO would be good, but only to a degree; you could only teach basic stuff which most will learn anyway on their own.
Basically, I could see the JA being only a friendly community. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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I'm sure a LOT of other people have thought about this as well. In the Q&A I explained how teaching in an MMORPG could work quite well, but perhaps it depends on the mechanics. I don't think we can really decide on something like this without knowing a lot about the game, though. |
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Kaldør - Student
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As long as it stays in JKA and Jk2, then yes.
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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I definitely think there is room for TJA to expand and revitilise with TOR, I'm not sure a complete change would work or not.
As Saz points out what sets TJA apart is its approach to teaching, and while I disagree that there will be no skill involved (there is a degree of skill involved even in MMORPG's) it is not the same as teaching someone the intricacies of the JK series sword and gun play. I think there is a great chance TOR will live up to at least a portion of its potential, hopefully enough to warrent development of the community here beyond the inevitable "do you play TOR?" thread. However we will need more info on the gameplay before anything could be said for sure. Lets just hope it captures more of the community spirit feeling SWG had back in the day (and probably still does to an extent) rather than the WoW 'be the best, better than all the rest' attitude. Regardless I'm with you, and fully support the use of the word DESTINEH! In this fashion. _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana |
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SaZ - Student
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since i doubt the game is going to be very skill-based, i dont think such thing is neccesary.
i mean apart of some kind of 'grouping', 'powerleveling', 'apprenticeship' stuff there wont be anything JA-like in that game. atleast it seems like that... TJA would become nothing more than a clan site tbh. for complete transition to something else... i bet we will have to wait for that game called jedi knight 4. ofcourse we will probably not going to get it in a few years time... so its only a question of whetver such change would be better than nothing or not. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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