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The new ja with jk3.
May 11 2003 11:48am

DoriaN
 - ex-Student
DoriaN
I'm curious as to see what happens here, when we change over, will the jats stay jats and just learn the new game or will we all get bumped down to students no one with any privellages, and then while the jacs prepare a trial, and those of us good at the new game take the trial and take jat. And then learn from there and teach? Or what?
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Aug 03 2003 05:30pm

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

Tentatively, we are going to move some existing JAKs/JATs to JA just so we keep the structure intact. Naturally, there prolly won't be much difference between the students and the teachers for a while, but it's the best thing I can think of.
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Aug 03 2003 05:19pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

Yeah we can make saberstaff trainers, single bladed trainers, 2 saber trainers, and trainer who can use them all good. Just a thought :)

Aug 03 2003 04:48pm

Rei D'Kana
 - Ex-Student

I'd say trials defenately

Aug 03 2003 03:57pm

YinYang
 - Ex-Student
 YinYang

So for example if a JAS(Jedi Academy Student)who is usin ither staff or dual saber adapts to it quicker that ne 1 else will he/she be apointed to be a JAT or JAK?
Or will they have to take the trials as well?
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Aug 02 2003 10:11pm

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

Rest assured, the management is aware of the fact that we are going to have to adapt. We're working on it right now. The goal is obviously to have it go as smooth as possible.

As far as JATs and JAKs and whatnot go:

I think we're going to need new JAKs/JATs to 'specialise' in games. It seems to me that having a JAT specialise in one type of saber fighting would be beneficial. How it works out will be seen in the coming months....
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Jul 31 2003 07:21pm

Ulic |retired|
 - Student
 Ulic |retired|

Apparently, JA is really different from JO. If it is different, people need to be retrialed for the demand, the skills to be mastered, have changed. I do see there's going to be a orgisational problem with trialling, but for now, let's only make a statement on the theory.

Darth, skills are the most important part of the trials, if you could become a JAT because of your kindness and attitude, why am i not a JAT? :D
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Jul 31 2003 04:03pm

Jenko
 - Student
 Jenko

That's a fair point!! Well pointed out, but i have no idea! lol Ask a one of the JAC
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Jul 31 2003 09:22am

Marcel Mandarijn
 - Student
 Marcel Mandarijn

I guess the students will just have to learn their moves from a JAT wich uses the same saber (just like your master should have the same force side).Unless for example there are no JATs that use 2 sabers (very unlikely) the JATs should think about learning to use all sabertypes.

Jul 31 2003 12:25am

YinYang
 - Ex-Student
 YinYang

u know playin the beta of jk3 made me realize something, since there is 3 diff type of sabers to choose from (staff saber,dual saber,and single saber)will the JAT's have to learn the two new saber styles? or will some JATs learn how to use one or the other or both so they can teach the students who chose to use the staff or dual sabers?
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Jul 30 2003 03:51pm

Cloaked Thunder
 - Student
 Cloaked Thunder

My only point is, which mine doesn't mean much, but what about the innactive knights. I've been here for months and there are still a few knights that I haven't even saw/met or have even posted in the forums in ages.....................
EDIT: I think all the ACTIVE JAK/JAT/JAC should keep their same positions.
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This comment was edited by Cloaked Thunder on Jul 30 2003 03:53pm.

Jul 30 2003 02:22pm

(SKX) Dark Blade
 - Student
 (SKX) Dark Blade

Anyway who would be doing this trialing? The Jats and jaks do the trials so who would make up the test and perform it? THe JACS have too much to do to be trialing everyone.
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Jul 30 2003 01:02pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

I dont agree with you Ulic.

I think the people that will buy JK:JA and will go to the JK:JA Academy should stay the same ranked or position as they were in the JKII JA.
JK:JA will have new features but is mostly the same. If you will need to trial all members including JAK, JAT it will take years, seeing that all people wanna get trialed cause they say they are very good in JK:JA way better then they were in JKII.

The JAK and JAT werent choosen by only skills, but also by kindness, attitude and other important factors. When they go play JK:JA they dont need to learn those things again together with there teaching skills. Also have they proven themselves worthy time and time again to help the JA or its members.

So I say leave the ranks the same for JK:JA as they were/are for JKII.

(unless they want to start over again as a student themselves offcourse)

Jul 30 2003 11:25am

Ulic |retired|
 - Student
 Ulic |retired|

Nonetheless, they should be trialed again along with all students.
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Jul 30 2003 06:22am

SirBizNatch
 - Student
 SirBizNatch

well JA is supposed to be like JO but expanded, with new feature. the dueling will be more complex but it will still be basically like JO, so the JAK's and JAT's should still have skill in JA.
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Jul 30 2003 12:45am

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

I reckon we should stay as we are (and no I'm not saying this to save my position :D) although I'm still gonna trial MYSELF, to see if I'm up to my standards.

About the whole skill thing. Knights need skill to pass the trial, but after that, you don't really even need to play. What about the innactive knights ? They never play or prove how good they are, but they're still knights.
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Jul 29 2003 09:39pm

Ulic |retired|
 - Student
 Ulic |retired|

I agree with you, I've long thought about this but the most logical scenario would be this:

JK:JA must be considered a game completely different from JK:JA. We can all predict that at least on the movement and saber areas a lot will have changed (after all, that's what Lucas Arts is constantly saying everywhere).
If the Academy moves to the new game, the same ranking system will obviously be installed. To fill the ranks, there shall be trials taken. I think the council should keep a close watch on this, after all they will be the only ones capable of nominating anyone (if that's still the policy). Current JAKs and JATs will be trialed along with the students. The fact that they are JAKs and JATs in JK:JO must not have any influence on the outcome of a trial.

Probably, most JAKs and JATs will receive high ranks in the new game. But it is wrong to just transfer them to a game that is totally new.
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Jul 17 2003 03:37am

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
 - Student
 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

LOL Silk........


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Jul 16 2003 10:40pm

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

Man, I cleaned out my bank account buying my JAK spot. I dont wanna have to buy another one.

On a serious note:

The current JAKs and JATs will have to carry over so there is some kind of infrastructure in place. And about skill being the deciding factor: LOOK AT ME! 'Nuff said.
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Jun 01 2003 04:52am

Lord Vader
 - Ex-Student
 Lord Vader

I also will join the Academy when the game comes out. I'm willing to serve all the jedis that are out there in search for training!:D
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Jun 01 2003 04:39am

Rendar
 - Student
 Rendar

Honestly, I think the JAT's and JAK's should get to keep their positions when we move to JK:JA. Why do i think this, becuase JAK and JAT is based very little on much they pwn people. JAK's are given position becuase teachers feel they have what it takes to be an example and help govern the servers. JAT's gets their positions because they are helpfull and have the ability to teach others effectivly. Those skills dont just go away becuase a new game is out. I think all people in positions should keep their positions. And new people who excell in the new game who meet the other requirements should be drafted into the ranks.

May 31 2003 11:02pm

Trekked
 - Student
 Trekked

I will join the JK3 Academy when i get the Game...I think Personally that it shall be a Good Game as long as it's not a PAY TO PLAY
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May 31 2003 06:55pm

Luke Skywalker
 - Student
 Luke Skywalker

A JAT who is going to use a dual blade or two sabers will obviously take longer to adapt than one who will stick with the single (like me). So basically I think we can get classes like that up rather quickly then later on set up classes for the other two styles. The single blade can definately not be so much different from JK2's, at least it better not be :).
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May 29 2003 05:55pm

Eclipse DKana
 - Student
 Eclipse DKana

ofcourse I want to, but these JAT/JAK have experience with teaching it would be a waste to throw it all away

May 29 2003 05:32pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

LoL E just say u wanna be JAT from the beginning :P

May 29 2003 02:42pm

Eclipse DKana
 - Student
 Eclipse DKana

So you say the academy has to have servers but dont do classes the first weeks to get people good enough to become a JAK/JAT.

I think the JAK/JAT can adapt to jk3 very fast and ofcourse they will have to start like anybody else, but they still have the experience of teaching and everything around being a JAT.

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