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Jedi_Venezuela - ex-Student  |
I just wanted to know what people think of hitting when the other player is on the ground. I personally think that is not right to hit the opponent after a saber lock. However, i do consider fair to hit the other player after a kick, becasue this requires some skill. What do you guys think? _______________ Adrian, Jedi_Venezuela .:J:. JA Spanish Teacher This post was edited by Jedi_Venezuela on Jun 03 2003 04:28am. |
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When is it fair to hit your opponent when they are in the ground?
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Vaughn - Student 
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depends on the situation. If i get a good kick in, yes ill dfa. If im doing no dfa duel, no i wont. If i think you are low enough health, i wont (usually this doenst count). And ofcourse, if i feel that i need to win the duel, then ill dfa you. So, depending on the situation, its fair, or its not _______________ When you become an actor, you become the person, and you dont act anymore. You just are. - Tyler HP, Taught by Mr G Simpson |
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KypNadon(AFK) - Ex-Student 
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it's still weak _______________ CHICKEN |
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Menaxia - Student 
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I would only hit them after they have made a deliberate move, which is slow to get up from, such as the red style huge jump-n-chop thing. I dont hit after kicking or winning in a saber lock _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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JAcen LW Solo - Retired 
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I personaly don't do it, unless my oponent does it 1st (mamma didn't raise no fool. I don't mind it much as it can be avoided but I do hate when ppl spam it. And yes, ppl do spam it, I don't care if it's part of a strategy it is still is as bit as lamme as the old pull backstab thing on v 1.03. It was built in the game and everyone spammed it. It's not the move itself that is lamme, but the amount of spam ppl do with it. Ever went to a public server and play a FF duel ? 99% is pull kick throw spaming, now where's the fun on that ? Main point, if you lose saber locks, click faster, if you get kicked DFAed learn to avoid the kicks and to get up faster. If you use scripts to win saber locks, or you just spam kick dfa, well, get a life son. Ps: As it is an unofficial fair play rule not to hit ppl on the ground and most ppl assume that their opponent wont do it, it would be nice if you warn ppl before a duel that you will hit him if he falls. _______________ "Though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death, I shall fear no evil .For I am the baddest mofo in the valley" |
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Jedi_Venezuela - Ex-Student 
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*BUMP*  _______________ Adrian, Jedi_Venezuela .:J:. JA Spanish Teacher |
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KypNadon(AFK) - Ex-Student
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only when the other is doing the same _______________ CHICKEN |
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Iori Yagami - Student 
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I've never fought anyone who's only tactic is to kick.. or maybe its because once someone starts kicking, i know what to do toavoid.. and they can't use the kicking tactic anymore. kicking alone won't win a fight, but kicking is a basic attack move in the game, its like using ryu in streetfighter and telling him not use a dragon punch. Anyway, kicking damage is turned off in duel, less reason for people to complain. _______________ May the ping be with you |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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PEOPLE ONLY MOAN BECAUSE US KICKERS AND SABERLOCKERS OWN YA ALL _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are 
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student 
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is it fair? yes, besides, if they are good they can role out of it. but to use it as a main tactic is cheap, sure its cool to watch every now and then, but where is the danger, where is the fun? |
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Sared - Retired 
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My view is this: if you can do it to them then (if they are experienced) they can do it to you. It is a matter of skill, one should not allow themselves to get knocked down and therefore deserves to get hit. Thats how I play at least. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Iori Yagami - Student
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Its built into the game. so anything goes. nuff said, take being knocked down and killed like a man (or woman  )Everyone has the same game, learn to deal with all moves and situations. Personally, I don't attack after sabre locks, even when my hp is low, but haha, some of you (hehe, exar.., monty..) know one of my fav moves is kick dfa, which does take skill. Pet hate are people who say they don't like kicks in fights. Jeez, its so easy to avoid a kick, just learn from it and stop moaning and ruining it for people who have learnt to kick as part of their game. _______________ May the ping be with you |
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Auron - Ex-Student 
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It really depends for me. IF They're beating me bad, I'm gonna stoop and hit em while they're down and win. No, not really. You cant answer this for all situations. If im dueling for fun with someone I know, I'd probably throw in a kick RDFA if they're stupid enough to leave themselves open; it teaches them not to do that move, because, instead of doing a kick rdfa (Which some consider 'Cheap'), it could be a legit move like lunge. If im in a tournament, Ill use kick if they're getting too close to me, but i'd never hit them when tehy're down. One thing, though, I *never* hit ANYONE if I win a saber lock and they fall, because, how much ACTUAL SKILL does it take to pound the crap out of a button? It takes no skill, it's all physical. Kicking takes timing, and you risk being hit, so if you kick someone down, you probably deserve to get a swing or two in, it's their fault. Some people just make no sense.. Here's an example: Student A attempts a YDFA on student B Student B dodges it, but doesnt have enough time for a lunge or any other acceptable counter, so he kicks and then red downhacks, winning the Duel. Student A: You're cheap! There's no honor in that! No, 'Student A' is wrong. It was his fault for the ydfa, and student B just improvised on counter and bought himself some time by kicking student A down. Then again, when you kick, its not always guaranteed to knock the enemy down.. _______________ -Auron I've got l337 rock-paper-scissor skills, boi! Ok,ok.. Who wants to touch me? |
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SS/ph00d - Student 
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I don't ever hit on the ground, i think it's very disrespectful hitting someone while they're down, but if they do it to me, i'll make sure i get them back.  that's my way... _______________ -ShadowSith: CTF/gunner specialist. This comment was edited by SS/ph00d on Jun 04 2003 01:07am. |
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eljeton - Student 
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,..i kinda agree with ioshee,..well,...i usually(that doesnt mean that i dont..) dont hit ppl on the ground, but as DJ said ,..its part of the game,..and i found fair to take that adventage that u created,... also,...ping has nothing to do with saber lock,..trust me,..i have easly beat ppl lower that 80s ,..as also get my butt kicked by ppl higer than 190s,.....but what really is ping's related,..its ur movement,..u could say,..'..well,...then,..that means,..that i press my button slower that my opponent...',...thats wrong,...what really happens ,..is that u start a bit (depending on the ping,...a 300s is usually a almost half second delay...),..just a bit after u actually start clicking ur mouse like mad ,..but the button secuence keeps going at the same frecuence,...now,....for kicks ,..thas a diferent story,...thats where the ping takes a serious part,..simply coz what i just said,....u move with a delay,...now,...when u want to kick,..on ur screen u see ur self kicking,..or going to,..but since thats not the 'real action'(coz of the delay...)if the ping diference is big(something like more than 100s i think),..ur gonna get kicked almost like 80percent of the times,...thats y i dont like kick fight,..or anythig with kickstrust me,...i have tested all the ping stuff(its kinda obious ,.coz mine is round 280s-350s)by getting my self twice on a server (dont do it unless u have a prety good comp,..or u can get stuck..)and minimaze the both windows,...then i saw,..everything i did was with a 1/2second delay having that time around 300s...usually,..with a 100s-150s ur ping is really good,. 40s to 70s isnt much diference from a ,.lets say,..120s,..i mean,..u can play fair,... well,...and 1 last thing,.....if ur on the ground,..just keep ur jump pressed and u should get up with a fast jump,...,that, has saved me from lots of RDFAs, hehe,....is that simple  _______________ '...its better to light a candle, than cursing the dark,...' -> 0_< |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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also u can press crouch to get up after being knocked down!!!!!! w000000000000000t i bet u didnt know that! _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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SirBizNatch - Student 
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first off, if ya hold jump while in the saberlock youll prob get rite bac up. second, i often play people better than me, so i aint gonna pass up a chance ta get a hit in. _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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<=SJM=>FlamingSaber - Ex-Student 
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for me it all depends on wether im dueling for fun or for a tourniment. cause if its for fun, go ahead knock me down n kill me all u like . but in a tournie i think it should only be from kicks cause its hard to do a good move from a kick. |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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Well I think it's just rude to hit someone when they're down but if you're sith I expect it. If you did a rdfa on me after you kick me I'd be quite proud of you because that does take some skill. Lunge is too easy so I think that's just rude to use after a win on saber lock. I don't really think it's like cheating it's just gaining with little to no challeng which is lame and not very honorable. So I like to see cool moves made like a rdfa after kick and others like it but don't just go the easy rout cause that's just dead boring. _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Vanidar - Student 
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Just my two cents....When someone is on the ground, i never attack, ever, unless i'm outnumbered like 5 to 1...Kicking is a great defensive move in a duel, and saber locks are cool too, but, if i get them on the ground....They cant defend themselves, and if im on the ground, i hate it when they kick me (Or i watch it happen to anyone else..), then RDFA me from 100/10 when they have about 40 hp left,...Especially when i show the courtesy of not attacking while you cant defend yourself. Sure, it takes skill to kick someone down....A little How hard is it to kick someone down, then RDFA and win, in about 4 seconds...That wont improve you as much, in my humble opinion... _______________ -Vanidar Silverleaf "No no no, you're moving way too slow." |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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Well my thinking is, If u have bad ping then u will always lose saber locks so I kinda pay attention to that and don't attack if I win. If a person goes after me when i'm down then all bets are off and i'm doin the same. My personal opinion is, if someone tries to DFA me and they miss then I am gonna try to kick. It depends on the person and the mood i'm in also. There shouldn't be a problem hitting on the ground at any time simply b/c they put it in the game. If they didn't want it used then they wouldn't put it there. Geat poll! I was wondering about this myself, kudos to u Jedi_Venezuela _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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DoriaN - Ex-Student 
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It is perfectly normal to hit someone when their own the ground from a kick or saber lock, because it was built into the game, and if you win the saber lock and they can't get up in time, then suffer the consequences same for kicking. _______________ JiM |
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Zero Akaine - Student 
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i say if you hit them when you kick hem just hit them if you win a saber lock, you did win _______________ Padawan of Ryo Akaine Master to Aphex,Skyler,Doppelganger, and GremReaper. |
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Silencio - Student 
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I want to do it, but since I really suck at speed-clicking, I usually get too surprised to attack when I win once in a while _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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I dont have a problem with it but if someone doesnt want to i wont |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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I don't really have a problem with it. It depends who I am fighting. Usually I just duel someone and if I knock tem down with a kick, I usually let them get back up again. If someone knocks me down with a kick and tries to follow up with an attack, then I do the same when I knock them down. - Virty.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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