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The Lag of Doom
Jun 25 2003 07:47am

GHarris
 - Student
GHarris
I've recently started suffering from terminal lag in the JA servers (NL, Home and Classes). I've tried a public server to compare, and my ping's what it should be. I have two different ISPs, and the lag happens whichever one I use. I'm on 56k.
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Jun 29 2003 07:06am

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

C:\Documents and Settings\Geoffrey>tracert 198.247.172.102

Tracing route to thejediacademy.net [198.247.172.102]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 175 ms 161 ms 148 ms bwf0017570-torch-telecom-hg-2.mdip.bt.net [194.7
4.71.173]
2 157 ms 155 ms 162 ms 192.168.255.2
3 201 ms 154 ms 162 ms 192.168.253.6
4 176 ms 174 ms 162 ms 213.249.152.4
5 202 ms 169 ms 162 ms ang-supernet24-0.core.KCOM.COM [213.249.148.4]
6 157 ms 154 ms 162 ms ldscat01r1-e-kingsupa1.core.netline.net.uk [212.
111.130.97]
7 157 ms 162 ms 155 ms lds01-ge-yfcr1.core.netline.net.uk [213.40.3.94]

8 151 ms 154 ms 162 ms lds02-ge-lds01.core.netline.net.uk [212.111.131.
22]
9 193 ms 169 ms 162 ms lon02-ds3-lds02.core.netline.net.uk [212.111.131
.10]
10 156 ms 154 ms 162 ms lon01-ge-lon02.core.netline.net.uk [212.111.131.
26]
11 171 ms 147 ms 162 ms integrou04-gw.pipex.net [195.217.170.62]
12 155 ms 162 ms 148 ms ge5-0.cr1.lnd8.gbb.uk.uu.net [158.43.188.1]
13 156 ms 162 ms 162 ms so-7-0-0.xr1.LND2.alter.net [158.43.233.242]
14 206 ms 162 ms 162 ms so-0-1-0.TR2.LND2.ALTER.NET [146.188.7.226]
15 223 ms 250 ms 235 ms so-6-0-0.IR2.DCA4.ALTER.NET [146.188.8.173]
16 230 ms 243 ms 228 ms so-0-0-0.IL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [146.188.13.41]
17 252 ms 235 ms 252 ms 0.so-1-0-0.TL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.9.222]
18 232 ms 236 ms 243 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XL2.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.42.189]
19 313 ms 242 ms 236 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.DCA5.ALTER.NET [152.63.43.177]
20 305 ms 229 ms 242 ms p16-0-1-3.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
9.69]
21 267 ms 250 ms 242 ms p16-3-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
2.74]
22 342 ms 280 ms 280 ms p16-0-1-1.r21.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
5.34]
23 357 ms 279 ms 273 ms p16-2-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
3.29]
24 357 ms 272 ms 295 ms p4-1-0-0.r01.kscymo02.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.4
.38]
25 372 ms 287 ms 279 ms ge-1-2.a02.kscymo02.us.ra.verio.net [129.250.25.
100]
26 355 ms 295 ms 294 ms fa-2-5.a02.kscymo02.us.ce.verio.net [128.242.0.2
54]
27 297 ms 294 ms 280 ms thejediacademy.net [198.247.172.102]

Trace complete.

The thing is, it's stopped now, so whatever was going wrong probably won't show up:)
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 28 2003 07:01pm

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

Open a command prompt. Go to start -> run...

If you use Win9x/ME type in "command" and press enter.
If you use WinNT/2k/XP type in "cmd" and press enter.

At the dos prompt type in "tracert <the ip address of the server>" minus the <>'s. This will ping every hop between you and the game server. There will most likely be at least a dozen routers in between you and the server. Copy and paste it into a comment here. I'll tell ya what you're looking at.
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Jun 27 2003 10:00pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

Erm... the lag's stopped. Weird. I didn't change anything.
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 27 2003 07:13pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

Well, I've run that 3d traceroute thing but I don't know what the heck it's telling me:)
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 27 2003 02:49pm

madhatter
 - Student

try 3dtracer at http://www.hlembke.de/prod/3dtraceroute/.
its free and gives u lot of information about your connection
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Jun 27 2003 07:39am

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

I guessed that:)

Do I have to download a program to do it, or what?
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 26 2003 08:13pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

I *think* that means you have to trace the signal that goes from your PC to the JA server PC. No idea how you have to do that though :(

Jun 26 2003 07:42pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

How do I 'run a traceroute'?
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 26 2003 05:44pm

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

The JA's servers are on completely different network connections. It's not something on our end. Run a traceroute to the IP's of the game servers and we'll see where the fault lies.
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Jun 26 2003 05:30pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

Bump. It took me half an hour to write that last post so I'm not having it ignored :)
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 26 2003 07:35am

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

I've already said everything in my previous posts, but I'll start again.

In the middle of Monty's kick classes several days ago, my ping suddenly went through the roof This was on the NL server, where my pings are usually just over 200. I was in mid-jump at the time and was paralysed there for several minutes. Anything I typed took about four seconds to appear, so I'd estimate that to be my ping.
I tried reconnecting, it didn't fix it.
I tried using a different ISP, it didn't fix it. I tried closing messenger and stopping the Messenger Service (in control panel/admin tools/services), it didn't fix it. I had no other programs running.
I tried checking for spyware using Adaware, it found a bit but there were no running spyware processes, and when I removed what there was, it didn't fix it.
I tried joining other JA servers, they all suffered from the same insane lag.
I tried joining other, public internet servers. The ping on those was just fine, between 200 and 300 as normal depending on the server.
I tried joining internet servers for other games, again the ping was just fine.

This is not normal lag, it does not seem to be caused by hardware faults at my end of the phone line, since I would suffer lag in other servers if that were the case. Nor is it caused by an overall software/driver fault, for the same reason. I know my internet connection and it's never done this before.

However, I think it's more likely that it's caused by some software specific to the JA servers, either on my PC or the servers'. I think the fact that this started in the middle of a game (rather than when I joined the server one day) might be important.

To answer those questions: No rain or bad weather recently, Windows usually says I'm connected at 42.6kbps, and pings just over 200 on NL server and just under 400 on classes and home servers.

The game is completely unplayable with this lag, so I'm just sitting waiting at the moment.:(
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


This comment was edited by GHarris on Jun 26 2003 12:06pm.

Jun 26 2003 05:42am

Nemesis Nova
 - Student
 Nemesis Nova

O...well are power shutdowns count as constrution?
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Jun 26 2003 12:17am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

oh yeah, maybe u should quit all other programs, including those in the tray. be it IRC, ICQ, MSN whatever.... slay them all ;)
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Jun 26 2003 12:04am

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

There are a GREAT many reasons modem users can have lag in their games. What speed do you get connected at? What are your ping times to the servers? Has there been any rain and/or construction in your area recently?
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Jun 25 2003 08:47pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

Seriously though, there must be a simple reason for this.
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 25 2003 08:06pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Oh sorry, I thought it was the Society of Jihaad's..... my mistake.

Jun 25 2003 07:58pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

No! The m00 isn't that bad Jacen!

About the thread: Man I have 56K, and still my chats appear properly on time and everything.

About DARtHMAUL: it isn't always so easy to get a new connection, esp more that 56K!!!!
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Jun 25 2003 07:53pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

Let's not bring religion into this :)
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 25 2003 07:32pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

It is the m00! You must blame the m00! Burn them! Burn Rico, Bubu, CT, Exar, everyone! Mwahahahah! *psychotic laugh*

Jun 25 2003 07:27pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

That's about the same time as for me. I'm sure it's something about the JA servers rather than some fault in our PCs, since I don't get lag in other online games/other JK2 servers, and it doesn't change with different ISPs. I'd appreciate it if someone responsible would look into it.
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 25 2003 06:21pm

Nemesis Nova
 - Student
 Nemesis Nova

It started 1 week ago...:(
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Stop with the stupid sigs would you?

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Jun 25 2003 05:47pm

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

When did it start happening to you? For me, I was in the middle of Monty's kicking class a few days ago when it just suddenly started.

It must have something to do with the mods or scripts on the servers, or something. I'm not very knowledgeable on server matters. It's nothing to do with if I'm downloading things in the background or anything, I've checked for spyware, I've even diabled the Messenger service, to no effect.
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


Jun 25 2003 03:53pm

Nemesis Nova
 - Student
 Nemesis Nova

Happens to me too
Ping on Every Ja Servers no matter how many ppl on it: 999
Ping on Most of Public Servers with average of 15 ppl on it : 200-300
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Jun 25 2003 12:26pm

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

That's kinda strange. Sorry, I have no ideas.

-rh
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Jun 25 2003 11:40am

GHarris
 - Student
 GHarris

This problem doesn't come and go depending on any factors I've noticed, it's just always there, a colossal ping, either in the 800s or off the scale. I'm unable to move, and any chat takes several seconds to appear after I type it. Basically it makes play impossible.
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Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head?


A: Pudding Gentleman Type B!


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