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Virtue - Jedi Council  |
Me being me, was having a few silly thoughts this afternoon and came up with an idea to make a Single Player Level based around the Academy. Got great ideas for the level, although I havn't thought up a story line for it yet. But basically, I'mma make it so that you play a New Student to the Academy training with a JAT when something terrible happens, blah, blah, blah. I'm gonna be making loads of new skins for it, including the player skin (Let's face it, playing as Kyle in this scenario would be NO FUN!). This way, as you make your way through the Academy, you will meet and interact with several existing Academy members, like DJ Sith or Luke Skywalker. Even good old Jakey boy. Each member will hopefully be individually voiced. I'mma try and implement some helpful tips reguarding MP Playing and such, but the level will really just be for fun. What do you guys think? Good Idea? If so, tell me - What would you like to see in the level? What kind of situations shall we put the player through? And also, any good ideas for a storyline would be great.  Let me know what you think. - Virty.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Hmm, I'll post something for ya Virtue, I'm too tired to do it right now, but I'm not very creative so we'll see how it turns out.  |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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Now THAT is more like it cM@D_x!!! I like that one alot. I'mma copy and paste that one into my JA folder aswell. But just to make it fair, I'll wait for a bit and hear some other storylines from other members too. But I do like that.  - Virty. _______________ Academy Architect |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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k.. i modified my prior story so that it takes place in JA ground. Here u go Virtue: While training with ur master in some JA training room, u (and ur master) sence something dark in the force. Luckily, ur master recognises it; it is his prior padawan, who was extremely powerful and fell to the Dark Side. All the ppl in the JA senced that as well. The JACs, who knew how powerful that person was, alerted the JA members to evacuate the building. Only the JACs, JATs and JAKs should stay. And they were right to make so many ppl stay! The Dark Jedi had brought a whole army of Reborns (or Shadowtroopers if u like them better) with him. A huge fight starts (like in AOTC) where all the Reborns have been killed, and only 2 JACs and one JAT had remained alive; DJ, C1 (doobie is on vacations,  ) and ur master. Watching their fight from a window, u happen to see ur master being sabered by the Dark Jedi, as well as the 2 JACs (i said from the beginning that the Dark Jedi was powerful).You then decide to go in and fight him... U know that only your hatred can destroy him (copyright Darth/Lord Vader ). You go in and fall to the Dark Side. Your hatred has taken over you.. You then switch from Light Side Force Powers, to Dark Side Force Powers... Then u kick his @$$, and become a Light Siders again!You r then made Lead Instructor of the JA!! --end-- i think this was better than the prior one _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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FaDed - Student 
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thanks for explaining that Virtue |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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One of the main interesting things about a Mod of this type is the individuality, I won't be making custom skins that resemble what the JA members look like in real life - unless it is their wish for me to do so. Some of the skins will be easy enough to make anyway, some members may just want a slightly modified version of the Jedi Skin, or the Jedi Trainer skin, which wil be simple to do, they may even want to make the modification to the skin themselvs and send it along to me. Others may be skinners, or already have a skin made which they can send along to me. And for the rest, I am more than happy to make you a Custom skin that will look how you want it to look and best resemlble your character. MP is different from SP, if two or three members wanted to use the same skin, those individual skins will still need to be independantly scripted, Voiced and Configured, so if I'm going to do that anyway, I may aswell make the skins myself/use custome skins that people send to me. I am a perfectionist of sorts, which is why I am intent on making this Mod special, and in alot of ways original. I want people to look and think "COOL!" whenever a different Academy Member pops up in the Level. I don't want them to think "Seen one, seen em all!" As for modelling, I am not going to be modelling new player models. However, if a member wishes, I can re-skin existing custom models and implement them. For example, Is somebody wants their species to be that of Kit Fisto, I will re-skin the Kit Fisto skin that the Academy Server uses and modify it to the Members wishes. Or if someone wants their species to be Zabrak, I'll modify the Darth Maul skin etc. etc. This goes the Same for the Bossk model, If you want to be a Trando FaDed, I can re skin the Bossk model to give you a more personalised look. The reason I am thinking of implementing the Imps into it is because it would make it very easy for me to do. I wouldn't have to skin loads of different types of baddies except maybe one or two Dark Jedi Skins, and of course, the final Boss, POSSIBLY an Apprentice Darkie, like Tavion. One final point I'd like to make is in reguard to your DS Vs. Doobie Storyline. I like that idea, it opens up may, many opportunities for Humourous implements and stuff like that. I am not totally disreguarding it. I have actually copied your entire post and pasted it into my 'Academy Projects' folder along with a number of other things that I'm trying to do for the Academy. But this idea came to me first, and it seemed like a good one to do a sort of serious Mod based around the Academy. This way, combined with the heaps of Advertising I will also implement into it, could then be uploaded to most, if not all major JO file sites, like Massasi and JKII.net. And since the numbers of good SP levels for JO are VERY low, ALOT of people will want to download it, thus, seeing the adds, checking us out here at the site and even Enrolling to the Academy. Which will hopefully get us hundereds more active members. On a final note, I'd just like to thank Sniya for posting on this thread and trying to help me get some staff for this project. Cheers Sniya! If anyone has anything else they want to ask, be my guest. All questions are good questions. And I do mean ALL questions. Peace. - Virty. _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on Jul 03 2003 12:51am. |
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FaDed - Student
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i vote for a fun level, aka DJ vs doobie. i have questions though. when you say you are wanting to skins for each member of the cast, do you mean you want to do a custom, personalized skin and MODEL? are you planning on not using the already made skins on the servers? is it a problem to have people in the cast use the same skin? i know that there are people in the academy that are recognized by the skin that they use. for example, myself, i am the only person that i know of that uses the trandoshan skin that comes built into the game (ya know...the bossk skin). i'm just wondering about these things because it would save you a whole lot of time if you found out what skins the cast members use on the servers and decide if it's a problem to have repeats. VOTE FOR DJ SITH VS. DOOBIE!!! |
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Sniya - Student 
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right skinnners you all list your willingness here so we can see if this babys possible. _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
I've heard from the danish dude on #jediacademy (a copenhagenish guy  ) that it comes out the 14th of November, and he has contacts in Gamereactor (basically the biggest gaming site in Scandinavia if I remember correctly). |
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GHarris - Student 
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How about we somehow make the enemies the spammers, lamers and tkers you find on public servers? But in a Star Wars way, somehow... I dunno. Make it a struggle between the massed spammers and the few, civilised JA members? Btw, yeah, Piggott's level was based upon being one large level you go back and forth in. That's why he was stuck when he hit the voice limit. Edit: you could always convert the level to JA when it comes out... you might find that it's better for editing so you can do more impressive stuff. _______________ Q: What do you call a man with bread and butter pudding on his head? A: Pudding Gentleman Type B! This comment was edited by GHarris on Jul 02 2003 08:45pm. |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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I have heard a rumour that JA will be coming out November 1st. So that gives me a couple months to get this project completed. But I don't intend for it to take THAT long. As long as I get the co-operation from people who want to be in it, and people who wish to help make it - We'll be fine. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Battlin' Billy - Student 
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I think it's an awesome idea! But you'd better hurry up b4 JK:JA comes out. Most folks will probably want to play that instead. _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Why is it always the poor Imps? I want to shoot Rebel scum. |
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Al-Ran Kanobi - Ex-Student 
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Can i be in it? Al-Ran _______________ --- Most likely back summer/fall 2004 --- |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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I think I may end up using the Imps as enemies. But as for using the default JO Skins for the good guys - That would also be far too boring. The point for making this level was so that actual academy members could participate / be in it. And that's part of the fun of it. I may use stormies, but come up with a few new Dark Jedi to use instead of the Reborn/Shadowtroopers. There may be a few default JO Jedi/Trainers running around, Luke Skywalker will probably want his skin to be Luke Skywalker, so you will be seeing quite a few JO skins in there. But you'll also be seeing new ones. I.E - SOME of the members of the Academy. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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I think all default skins should be used Make the playable charater a normal jedi, have some trainers running about, other jedi skins, hidden jedi skin. You get the gist.... _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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hehe, two things: this mod is for the academy, so I'd say, why not keep it to the academy? I'd suggest to let (at least big parts) of the story happen in the JA itself. as you said, rebs vs imps is a bit old. you have to decide. either you want a fun level (aka, DJ wants to kill doobie ) or you want a serious level (aka imps vs rebs, but a bit boring).you pick _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Hehe.... here's a good idea. Basically, it's kinda stolen from the Dark Rival star wars comic... hehe: You come to the academy, and a good Jedi Master selects u for his padawan... U (and ur master) r sent to a mission on another planet, where ur master (accidentaly) runs into his old padawan who fell to the dark side (VERY much like the Dark Rival, where QuiGon met Xanatos)... The mission, anyway, is to go to a negotiation between 2 governments, where u (and ur Master) and stop any fights that might happen during the negotiation. As a surpirise, ur master's older paddy shows up as the negotiator of one of the two countries. A huge fight starts during the negotiation, and ur master goes down there to try to bring the peace back. However, he makes u stay there. WHen everything/everyone calms down, ur master has mysteriously disappeared (he was kidnapped by his older paddy). U get to find him then... After a HUGE search, u find him sitting in a cell where his force abilities r disabled... To free him, u need to get the key; though its carrier is his older padawan, who shows up behind u with his red lightsaber ----------end of story------------- this story could be several levels, maybe JK4:The past attacks.... hehe! however; u have to find a name for the hero, his master and the master's older padawan... plz IF u choose this story, make ME the master's old padawan!!! _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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This sounds like a great idea. I'll lend my lovely voice if you need it for a character. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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crazy_hacker - Ex-Student 
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this looks cool, but i have absolutely no experiance with modding or skinning or anything like that _______________ if at first you dont succeed, try and try again. if you still dont succeed, youve just wasted a whole lot of time trying something you just cant do
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SirBizNatch - Student 
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******STORY****** ok this is like aeth's, but more detail. you start out by joining the academy, maybe some duels, etc until you get a master (someone powerful). then ur master is out on a mission when the academy is stormed by (you pick the enemy). so eveyone retreats underground, where they hole up. they realize they have no supplies/food and cant fight their way out (for some reason or the other). then you volunteer to try to get out and bring your master back to deal with the situation (very powerful, remember - think like gandalf is to LOTR, dumbledore to HP). problem is. ships are on the roof/top level or sumthin. then you have to make your way to the top, bring your master back, take out the bad guy in charge of all this.... _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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Righty-Ho. New breakthrough here. I'm going to attempt to put forward some solutions to the problems presented in this thread thus far, and answer some questions that some people have asked. Here Goes: GHarris put forward a good point reguarding the amount of MBs that can be used for voice/custom sounds in a SP level. Although the gentleman he referred to may have been a pretty decent Mapper, from what I have gathered he attempted to make one large SP level complete with custom conversations and sounds. Now, think back to when you were playing Single Player JO. The whole game itself contains ALOT of dialogue and sounds, but it was spread over a vast amount of levels. And since all of the Vocalisations in SP are in MP3 format, you can't tell me that each INDIVIDUAL SP Level in Jedi Outcast exceeded approximatly 5MB of Sound Space. This is what I am going to do. I shall make a few maps for this particular SP mod, each with different Academy Members in it and each with different Sound files. They will then all be linked together using Scripts and packed up into one Sexeh, Shagadelic PK3 file for you lovely people to download. Example - Map 1: The Starting Map, Our Hero arrives at the Academy, has a convo with a JAT, is then told to go to the Elevator on the other side of the map which will take him up to the next floor of the Academy. On his way, he may shoot stormtroopers, saber a Reborn and even work out a few puzzles. When he reaches the Elevator, the level ends, like in JO, you'll see your level stats - How many people you killed, what your most used weap was etc etc. After this, the loading screen will start for Map 2. When done loading, the player finds himself on the Second floor of the Academy, ready to make his way through. So yeah, making one very large SP map with many custom sounds would be a problem. But not if you cut it into smaller pieces and link them all together. ------------------------------------------------- Our Hero (The Player): The Player will be nameless throughout the entire scenario. However, He/She may be refered to as "Padawan" or "Young Jedi" by many of the NPCs (existing members) that you will encounter. The Player will not embody any existing member of the Academy. However, a Member of the Academy may wish to provide the Voice for Our Hero (not yet decided). -------------------------------------------------- The Cast List: I will be making a thread reguarding members who may wish to appear in the level in the very near future. Anyone who wants to be included would do well do post a reply on it with some info that I will be asking for in the main thread. Bare in mind that each member will need to be individually Skinned and Voiced, and this will take some time, therefore, unfortunatly not all members will be appearing due to deadlines. -------------------------------------------------- The Storyline: As stated before. The storyline hasn't been set in stone yet. I have my own ideas about what I want in the level, but as I said before, I don't want this to be "Virtue Wars". The map MUST have elements that everybody would like to see. People have thus far put together nice little stories that could potentially be used in the level. More ideas are both welcome and needed. Let me just state that this level must be to SOME extent original. So let's steer clear of the old 'Rebs Vs. Imps' ding dong. However, it would be easier on myself if the main enemy was the Empire, as then I wouln't have to spend months designing and skinning masses of new enemies etc. I'll be having a tough enough time Mapping the whole thing and skinning all the Members that are appearing. Also, I don't really want an 'In-Academy-Conflict' scenario for this project. If there is to be an invasion, I want it to come from the outside (And I'm sure the JAC would agree with me on this). ------------------------------------------------- Help Required: A few people have asked me if there is anything they might do to help me with the production of this SP Project, and the answer is deffinatly YES!!! A am going to need Skinners, Skinners and a few Skinners to help me with.............................well...............................Skinning. LoL. If any Academy Members who happen to be good at Skinning are reading this, then I could greatly benefit from your help. As if I'm going to be doing this all on my lonesome, there is a SLIGHT chance that Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy will be released BEFORE this SP Level is. And needless to say, I'd be screwed. If I had some help, with the skinning, we could have this Mod completed in one tenth of the time. ------------------------------------------------- Sorry for my long-winded drivel. I hope this has answered some of your questions and provided info on some of the problems presented. I'll leave it to guys to critisize me now. LoL. Peace. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect |
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FaDed - Student
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no no no, NO! DB can be the damsel in distress!! yes!!! |
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(SKX) Dark Blade - Student 
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You can kill me off, I will be the evil lamer _______________ What is the difference between love and Herpes? Herpes lasts forever. (CDC joke) Padawans: Trad Redav, Darth Jello, Tallepyon, Shang Chi, Dopp, Karlin Duke, AuroN, Koushka, Damon, and Katan Brother to Xanatos |
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Virtue - Jedi Council
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Got some good ideas coming in now. Maybe I can mix and match. Hehe. I'm surprised to see the amount of people who want to be in it so they can die trgically. LoL At this rate, by the end of the level, there won't be anyone left in the Academy. - Virtabulous. _______________ Academy Architect |
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FaDed - Student 
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i like your idea Aeth, but i'm partial to my idea of DJ trying to overthrow doobie. but that's probably because i thought of it. |
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