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George Lucas , You done good but now is the time to let go!!
Nov 25 2024 05:23am

Jedi Al Khalaas
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Ok , I think George has done fantastic with teh 1st 3 films ,and allowing the expanded universe to grow. However, now I think it might be the time for him to step aside. Eps 1 & 2 could have been soooo much better if snippets of the Expanded Universe had been hinted at. His seeming disdain of the Expanded universe (eg if I want to make Han Solo impotent in Ep 3 to screw up the EU , i will) is holding it all back.

I say he should step aside and let his baby grow up , properly.

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Jan 21 2004 12:35am

Xipkell
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Ok, who wants some cheese?:D:alliance:

Jan 20 2004 12:47am

Kyle Sieran
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I don't think he should step aside, I just think he needs to recall the purpose of the story, and listen to himself, not what the MPAA's demands on making the movies retarded with disney comic relief.
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Jan 19 2004 09:54pm

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I agree with you completey Plo, they are all great movies and they are HIS. People always bash the prequels for not having a good storyline, but you have to remember that until all 3 are out, you dont even KNOW the storyline, they are all tied together, and cant be judged until it is all seen.
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Jan 19 2004 06:50am

Plo Koon
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you are WRONG.


i am a humungous SW fan and i go take a leak before the movie so i dont miss a second of it-i drink and eat nothing so i dont have to go during it...

i have never wanted a SW movie because of the game tied to it-i think george lucas has done a marvelous job at some of the greatest movies of all TIME.

George Lucas made the films for himself and it just so happens that hundreds upon thousands upon millions of billions of fans worldwide like the movies.
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Jan 19 2004 06:51am.

Jan 19 2004 04:41am

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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He is the ultimate power when its comes to anything Star Wars related.


Including the ulitmately terrible prequals so far.

Really he is hoping we will just go in, turn off our brains, get up and take a leak when things are blowing up, and talk about how great the action was.

To me the prequal series are the 4-6 what, terminator is to a space odesy: 2001 (bear with me here)

A space odesy is a great sci-fi movie that takes a look at what can happen when we let technology get smarter than ourselves, then put it in control.

Terminator attempts to do this but really you just watch it to see shit blow up, and when you do this, its actually a fun series.

SW fans are not going to accept that we want story, were the type of ppl who play Final Fantasy games for the story line and are happy it comes with a cool game.
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Jan 19 2004 01:25am

Vicious
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I think he has the right to do it as he pleases. If the Expanded Universe doesn't coincide with what he wants or thinks, than its not true. He is the ultimate power when its comes to anything Star Wars related.
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Do not kill, do not rape, do not steal, These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace, These are not polite suggestions, these are cores of behavior, And those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
There are varying degrees of evil, I am a due lesser form of filth, not to push the bounds and cross over into true corruption, into our domain, For if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see me, And on that day, you will reap it, And I will send you to whatever god you wish.


Jan 19 2004 12:00am

Xavier
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yeah your right, but he is gunna do ep. 3

Now he should make it GOOD and then stop there
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Jan 10 2004 07:43am

Monteeeeeee
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im my Opinion Episode 1 didnt need to be good, we all knew we was gonna watch it, just like terminator 3, we all watched it cos the others was so great, starwars had 3 great movies, hell we all know we are gonna see episode 3, even if the joining between all the movies is a little loose, i guess its better than nothing, well thats wot i think
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Jan 10 2004 05:49am

Rocket Raccoon
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what parts of the EU is he supposed to hint at in the PREQUELS, most of the EU takes place after the original trilogy and that is like 30 years later. very little of the EU is relavent to the prequels.
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Jan 10 2004 12:51am

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The Extended Universe, for the most part, sucks. There were a few novels and comics that I liked, but most suck. The EU is a great revenue stream, but for me it will never be part of the real Star Wars story.


My thoughts exactly Java Guy. Couldn't agree with you more. I've read all but a few books and felt that half of them we're crappy and had weak stupid plots.

*cough* Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, Rogue Planet, Truce at Bakura, Children of the Jedi, Darksaber, Planet of Twilight, Junior & Young Jedi Knights series, The Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy, The Corellian Trilogy, Shadows of the Empire , The Han Solo Trilogy, The Adventures of Lando Calrissian,, The Han Solo Adventures *cough*

Sorry if I started a flame fest but those plots suck. The rest were okay though. If you want to be filled in and not go through all the crap just read Star Wars : The Essential Chronology by Kevin J. Anderson and Daniel Wallace.

It's 160 page read insted of 16000 pages (50 books X 320 pages)

By the way its called the Expanded Universe.
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This comment was edited by Crunchy on Jan 10 2004 12:56am.

Dec 27 2003 10:43pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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yeah, there are some stories that are just boring...:)
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Dec 24 2003 05:02pm

JavaGuy
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The Extended Universe, for the most part, sucks. There were a few novels and comics that I liked, but most suck. The EU is a great revenue stream, but for me it will never be part of the real Star Wars story.

Ysalamari my ass.

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Dec 20 2003 11:03am

Lord Jaws
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exactly me too.
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Dec 19 2003 07:41pm

Buzz
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What would you have thought though if the first movie was released was Episode 1 and not ANH. Do you even think there would be 6 movies? I sure don't. I think Episode 1 should have been good enough so that it could actually start the series and keep people interested.
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Dec 19 2003 05:30pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

episode one had a great deal of SW magic in it :) its oen of my favorite! guigonn and obiwan again! back!
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Dec 19 2003 09:22am

Lord Jaws
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yea, i don't mean ANH nut Epic 1. And I do not mean that evry story that begins is wel...weak.. but Ep 1 is. And with star wars it's logical I think. IF you make it like this. It could be much better I think. Bt=ut this episode has no..erm... magic in it. like the old movies. So it would be wise if Lucas gave it away, or at least get some help.But ep 2 was a lot better, so mayby ep 3 is even more better.
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Dec 18 2003 04:08am

Plo Koon
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its not just ANH,the 6 movies of sw are one big story
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Dec 17 2003 10:28pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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A new Hope and Fellowship of the Ring have the best stories!
You should think about it;)
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Dec 17 2003 04:50pm

Buzz
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Jaws, are you saying the A New Hope had no story? Or that Fellowship of the Ring had no story? You can make a beginning movie have a good story, in fact most beginning movies are supposed to have good stories.
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Dec 17 2003 03:00pm

Lord Jaws
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I don;t think he alters the movie couse the fans have some expectations of it. he works on his own expectations. And if he is smart, he will put a LOT of his time making a good story. I like reading the stories about how it may be, but i still just wait for the movie and see what happens. And you like star wars or you do not. just like that. And if I see ep 1 and 2, there is a lot of improvement in ep 2..so I think ep 3 still will be very good...
And i think you cannot underestimate the power of a good story. Ep 1 has almost no story in it. but like my dad says, that is becouse it is the beginning of a story, you can't make that VERY inyeresting, so I think he compensated that with Lightsaberbattles and special affects.
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Dec 16 2003 08:52pm

Jawa Rikard Falk
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maybe have the last star wars movies dosent have right power but why give up i need star wars! if lucas have bad storys now but maybe some good producer can take over none some know what some means by the name star wars
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Dec 16 2003 08:06pm

Xipkell
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Umm I hate to point this out but he is stepping aside. After EP 3 that's it fin, finito, done AKA no more SW movies. I'm not quite so sure he has ignored the EU out of spite. If he were to include every little piece of the EU that was tied in the movies would be 4 or more hours long. I'm not saying that would bve a bad thing but remember how much people were complaining about LOTR being too long to sit in a theater for? As much as I'd like to think these movies are made just for us fans, Lucas also has to think on a global scale as far as viewer appeal goes. Now as far as the quality of the recent movies goes, I hate to say it but, you can't to have the same feeling every time you see a new movie in a series. You grow older and always ajust your views of your world. If I may make a suggestion: try to go see EP 3 with no expectations and you probably won't be disappointed. With all we have built up these stories to be in our minds, Lucas would have to make 50 different versions of the movies just to satisfy all the fans.

Expect nothing and, most of the time, you will be pleasantly surprised and if you are not you have missed nothing.:D:alliance:

Dec 16 2003 12:44pm

Lord Jaws
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he could use the help, but then again, in Ep 3 is more story, and this was not so in Ep 1 and 2. the old movies had a lot more story in it. And I think he is trusting too much on his special affects.
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Dec 15 2003 08:43pm

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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Sup,

Lucas is basically a guy who came up with a really reall really cool raw idea, the overall story / timeline, etc.

But If you look at the directors/writers for EP 4-6:

EP4:

Director: Lucas
Writing Credits: Lucas

Is this anyone favorite episode, no one that I know, but he was really young and he did a pretty damn good job.

Ep5

Director: Irvin Kershner
Writing Credits: Lucas, Leigh Brackett, and Lawrence Kasdan.

So lucas steps down as director, and has some ppl to help refine his raw idea, the output, my favorite episode (not that means shit) and a great movie, arguably one of the best Sci-Fi ever.

Ep6:

Director: Richard Marquand
Writing Credits: Lucas and Lawrence Kasdan

Again Luas doesnt direct, and has some help writing.


From this I think its pretty obvious to show that when Lucas has help "they" can do great things.

For Ep1 and Ep2, he directed and only had some help with the screen play for Ep2, I think Ep2 is better than Ep1, but both are still lacking.
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Dec 15 2003 02:56pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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*bump:P*
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