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Nov 14 2008 03:41pm

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
DJ Sith
You all know our server situation. Mine will be gone soon, and I'd like to get a dedicated CTF server to hold CTF class on. The problem is these servers and their bandwidth all cost money. I've sent a request to the jkii.net staff to post news asking for help with this.

If nothing comes through I'd like your ideas on this: opening a JA store. Theres a company called Cafepress (http://www.cafepress.com) that can put a JPEG logo on anything from T-shirts to mousepads to lunchboxes to boxers to steins to even thongs and sell it online for you. There's no cost to open one of these stores, and they handle all the shipping.

100% of the proceeds from this would go toward the cost of maintaining servers. If we get servers donated to us then we would use the money toward buying tournament prizes (yeah real honest to goodness prizes :)).

Here's my reservations:
1) Would people avctually buy this stuff? Alot of you guys are kids w/o the means.

2) Would it be enough to pay for servers? I have a friend here in Dallas who works for a colocation company. They give big big discounts for hosting for non profit orgs like us iun exchange for their logo on our site somewhere (preferably next to gamecity's)

What are your thoughts on the idea? Theres no risk in opening the store since theres no capital required to do it. It can only serve to make some money, I just want to know if it's all worth it or not to go through with all this.
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This post was edited by DJ Sith on Jan 22 2003 12:34am.

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Nov 14 2008 03:41pm

solitude
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 solitude

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Nov 12 2008 10:57pm

MOTREC
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 MOTREC

bumpage. this is hella old school right here. :cool:

Jan 25 2003 06:50am

Sniya
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 Sniya

i still think amazon acossiates would be better
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Jan 25 2003 06:35am

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

I think it is a very good idea to open this store. I know a lot of people would buy things, I most certainly would. If only 1000 members of the academy all buy one item of 8,- euro's, that would be 8000 euro's/dollars. That would be quite enough to afford a server for at least a couple of years.
I don't think any people would object to additional banners on the site, they could be placed beneath the window, so that you'd have to scroll down to see them.
There is a Dutch organisation named kliks that pays a certain amount of money for each click on a banner placed on your site. The McPclan has just finished the experimental period and the money is in. If 4 people click on 6 banners each day, that would lead to like 200 euro's in 3 months, if all visitors of the academy would.....
Possibly there is an American organisation that does the same.

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Jan 23 2003 09:52pm

ioshee
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 ioshee

I didn't understand your last post Johnny, can you try simplifying the context.

And Canadian Jedi, don't worry. I'm sure DJ did not mean you. Just remeber, if you are ever offended by something someone says then they probalby were not refering to you in the first place:confused:

And since when have Canadians ever been concerned with style? J/K
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This comment was edited by ioshee on Jan 23 2003 09:56pm.

Jan 23 2003 08:35pm

Johnnyrico
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 Johnnyrico

in wat arcuss said is good but there is just 1 problem.
The server cant be paid i mean that u'll have to pay till u dont want the server anymore.
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Jan 23 2003 07:00pm

The Canadian Jedi
 - Ex-Student
 The Canadian Jedi

I think it sounds like a pretty sweet idea! I'd definately buy some JA shirts, just as long as they were stylish of course ;).

Oh yeah and about the "kids w/o the means", what do you mean by that? I am usually described as a "kid" and I have plenty of "means" to buy stuff on the internet. Just as long as I pay my parents, they really don't care much.

This comment was edited by The Canadian Jedi on Jan 23 2003 07:02pm.

Jan 23 2003 05:43pm

Shang Chi
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 Shang Chi

I agree with Arcuss. A buck a month would not be to great a fee for me. But a car wash with girls would be nice. :D
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Jan 23 2003 05:39pm

Luke Skywalker
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 Luke Skywalker

Whoa, right on ioshee!! :D
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Jan 23 2003 05:05pm

Arcuss
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 Arcuss

Yep car wash sounds good to me.:D

Jan 23 2003 04:43pm

ioshee
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 ioshee

YEEEEHAAAA! Right on Arcuss. I’m ready.

CoRRUPTioN made me think of something though. What if some jerky turkey tries to through their weight around on the basis of a donation? That is why I propose you make a link to donate on the webpage. It could have a little disclaimer that says something like: “By donating I agree not to be a prick and through it in the Academy’s face when I don’t get my way.” Well something a little more legal sounding but hopefully you get the idea. Then it could link to a paypal account.

DJ, do you have a paypal account yet? That would be so sweet and easy.

Alternately I would love to see a fundraising car wash where girls wore JA thongs while they washed cars.
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This comment was edited by ioshee on Jan 24 2003 09:26am.

Jan 23 2003 04:01pm

Arcuss
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 Arcuss

I guess Luke,ioshee, and I are only fools who would give up a few vanilla cokes a year to help out. :(

fyi: for those who don't know a donation by it's very nature is a voluntary thing.

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side note: this doesn't apply if you live in my town, and request marriage services from the mayor, at which point it becomes a mandatory donation, I argued with his secretary until she was red in the face over this one.

Secretary: on the day of the service the mayor would like a 50$ donation in the form of cash, a check, or money order.

Arcuss(<--cheap): Cool, a donation so I don't have to pay it if I don't want?

Sec: Well yes sir if you want his services you'll have to pay it.

Arcuss: Oh, so it's a fee, I thought you said a donation.

Sec:No sir it's not a fee, it is a DONATION :mad:

Arcuss: A mandatory donation? Sounds like a fee to me.:P

Sec: Sir do you want the Mayor's services or NOT?:mad:

sorry I got off topic there but I had to share that with you. thinking of it always makes me laugh.
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Dj isn't asking any one for anything, and no where in this thread did anyone say you had to pay a membership fee. I suggested 1$ a month from those who could afford it, that way you wouldn't have to buy anything to pricey to help out. If you do the math on this you would see that 1$ from every student is a great amount of money collectively but a really small amount of money to give individually. Think of it as a lottery of sorts, with the money cleared after server fees the council could buy some really sweet stuff to offer up as prizes for tourneys. I would gladly hand over a buck a month for the chance to win some computer hardware for example.

The best part of the Academy (imo), and the thing I've always thought made it special, was the fact that the people here really seem to like helping each other out. Well lets help each other out. One new server would be great two would be better. I really think we could make this happen. Is there not any one else who feels the way I do about this? I'm the only one who can see the potential here?


:arcuss:

p.s. DJ, my apologies for spaming your thread.
Where do I send the check?:)



This comment was edited by Arcuss on Jan 23 2003 04:09pm.

Jan 23 2003 03:42pm

JP
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 JP

i love the idea, id buy a mousepad or mug, id even donate, nething 2 help the JA:D
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Jan 23 2003 02:00pm

DJ Sith
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 DJ Sith

Dude, we're not gonna force money out of you or charge for membership or any of that happy horsecookies nonsense. We do need money to buy servers and tournament prizes. I'd up the bucks myself, but I'm flat broke. Donations are completely *voluntary*. I understand if you dont have credit cards or are too young to do any of this stuff. You don't HAVE to do any of this.

I just want a JA mug. :)
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Jan 23 2003 01:52pm

SaltyDJ
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 SaltyDJ

Well, i think it'd be a waste of time, very few peops are gonna buy JA merchandise. However, fund raising for a new server is a good idea, u've just got the wrong one for now. ;)

P.S. If u did royalty fees or law suits wouldn't be an issue, this is your organisation based on a game and a movie but created by u, i doubt they could find any good reason (but anything's possible with the American leagal system :P)

Edit: don't wanna sound uptight or anything, but if it comes to members paying, as wonderful as the JA is i'm out :( I seriously hope it doesn't come to that.

;)

This comment was edited by SaltyDJ on Jan 23 2003 01:54pm.

Jan 23 2003 01:13pm

Psycho
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 Psycho

ok, lets make this clear, if ANY money are to be forced out of the members, Im leaving, though I have a creditcard and a couple of money, forget it, but dont think I dont like the idea with a CTF server, its up to you, JACs
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Jan 23 2003 12:30pm

Sniya
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 Sniya

Dont you dare make it so we need to pay.I dont have a credit card so i need to go through my dad for online stuff he hates it and scrutinises purchases
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Jan 22 2003 07:43pm

Rahn del Sol
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 Rahn del Sol

My only question is the Legality.

You're selling merchandise that is based in part on the "Star Wars" universe. Are you not therefore subject to royalty fees of some kind?
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Jan 22 2003 07:02pm

Silencio
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 Silencio

using the insignia could be cool. I want a JA mousepad!
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Jan 22 2003 06:48pm

ioshee
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 ioshee

We could use the insignia that Ulic has been working on:D
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Jan 22 2003 05:48pm

Luke Skywalker
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 Luke Skywalker

Nice idea Arcuss. I'd gladly send $1 a month as well to keep something DJ donated to the Academy up for longer. Be nice to have a CTF server as well.
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Jan 22 2003 05:40pm

Kalheka
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 Kalheka

I'd support a JA Store if I could. I think it would be kewl to have some JA stuff around the house.
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Jan 22 2003 04:34pm

Icco
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 Icco

i was also wonering what kind of parts you needed for a server... i recently went through my dads company suply room and found some parts. these arn't the best things in the world but if you can tell me what you need i might be able to find it.
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Jan 22 2003 04:30pm

CoRRUPTioN
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 CoRRUPTioN

Hope fully the ctf server problems sorted been aving words with DJ. Weh will come up wit sumet :) Photoshop pwnage time
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Jan 22 2003 04:27pm

Icco
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 Icco

i like the idea butwhat logo would we put on there and what is the gamecity server used for... i mean we could make that the ctf server.
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Jan 22 2003 04:24pm

CoRRUPTioN
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 CoRRUPTioN

If its gona be done you should let everyone in the academy sumit a logo and have a vote ont he site with the pics ect, cos u dont wana put sumit daft on that ppl wont buy :)
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