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I can't begin to Fathom how you guys can enjoy the MP in JKA, it's like 1.02 all over again. It's painful just moving... _______________ [Left] This post was edited by Xavier on Sep 23 2003 02:38pm. |
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aph3x - Retired 
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Yeah...the specials...i mean come on. I think alot of this will be better once we get a map w/ clearly defined dueling areas....where ppl wont be standing around in your way..etc, etc. Also...the roll in jk3 is totally cool...i use it all the time. I mean....nowhere near as much as in jk2...but i think its better this way. No more red swing, red swing, ROLL...repeat. Its all good in the hood.  |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Sup, One thing I would like to see though, is the dual saber side stab can be done anytime, not just when 2 ppl are on the sides of you. I hate when they make moves so ur oppent has to be in a certain place (i.e. yellow dfa in jk2 opponent must be in cross hairs to do the move) P.S. make that anymove can be done in tnis manner _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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n00b - Student 
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I think some of the arguments that this game should be patched for [Insert JK3 not like JK2 reason here] are a little ridiculous. Take rolling for example. If you could roll fast like JK2, think of the rolling stab-o-rama this game would be. Right now people use them mainly to counter katas and its a great choice. The Katas were mainly designed for power duelling and use of them in a 1 vs. 1 face off is not wise. If you do a kata with any saber and you get stabbed, well, you made a mistake, you need to give it more thought next time. As for spamming. If you are playing as defensive as you should be now, you will not have a hard time avoiding the specials. In fact the specials are so easy to counter, most players are avoiding them alltogether. Its not that they aren't "fair" or "cheap," they just leave your arse wide open for a stab or lunge or whatever. Don't do a special unless you absolutely know you won't receive a nice gift in return from your opponent. The worst thing you can do right now is not play. This game will never be just like JK2 because of play balance issues. I think you may see some minor tweaks here and there apart from real bug fixes, but the overall system will remain intact. I'd sure like to see more JK2 vets on the servers and I'd sure like to see some JK3 classes soon. _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... |
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Kyle Sieran - Student 
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adding on to jerec, patch patch patch peeeeaaaaatcccccchhhhhhh ch ch ch patch _______________ -If a Jedi ignites his lightsaber, he must be ready to take a life. If he is not so prepared, he must keep his weapon at his side.- ~Odan Urr Keeper Of Antiquities~ [Brother to Shadow(JAP), Kyle Katarn(JAS),Medlar,The White Wizard, D@RtHM@UL, and ROBIN OF LOCKSLEY!!!! (ROBIN)/(ROBIN HOOD)]/ NOW KNOWN AS Sednox (if he changes his name one more time...POW!)  Which is bigger? A mole of NaCl? or a mole of Pb?
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-patch-paaaaaaaatch. |
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VirusD - Student 
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yea the patches! Some say the game is noob friendly...i say its LAME FRIENDLY!!! Omg plz were are thouse patches! _______________ '** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**' '**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**" '**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend. |
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Khalek[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Khalek[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=50&f_image=4155.jpg)
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And after all the beatings that HW gave me to keep rolling rather than backflipping (feels stump where foot was....) in JO 1.4, what has happened to rolling? If you attack at ANY time during the roll (correct if wrong) you do a stab. DAMN YOU RAVEN!!! What I would suggest is that the system from 1.4 JO is used instead, with one little change: Roll + attack = attack after roll in direction of roll. Roll+ attack + direction = attack after roll in direction pressed. Roll + attack +alt attack (like the sabershield for duel, but when rolling) = stab And either remove the mana cost for the moves, or make it so that stab costs a bit (or increase the post-stab recovery delay) I had a duel where, after a few minutes of serious duelling, i was messsing around with my opponent. We carrid on rolling, stabbing, then avoiding the opponents stab by running back. After a short while, we got bored and started an airduel (which I must say is FAAAAAR more interesting in JA, hats off to Raven for that ).We were ROTFLOFAO when we say our duel replayed before our eyes TWICE!!! by two new JASs. Seriously, too. The worst part is that it's so powerful, LOL.   Grrr. _______________ Brother to HW and Kyp Durron, padawan of the almiiiighty NFF. Traitor to the family and keeper of the LOLlipops (poisoned and otherwise). Jello's unwanted second cousin. Vladarion's moral lesser  http://www.crazyfray.co.uk/home.htm - major update coming soon, yeah right.... £3.00 to be pledged so far to the JA fund... Just type PLEDGE ME UP KHALEK in any interesting post, and if it passes the funkolology test, 50p goes in the kitty... This one's for Jacen... http://www.bash.org/?7838
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NofrikinfuN - Retired 
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NofrikinfuN doesn't use specials either, DB. And really, it saddens me to see specials used so often. Yesterday in a public server someone did nothing but the dual lunge move and rollstab... Sadly, they won several duels using this tactic,  To me, that points out the need for a patch. The basic swings are supposed to be the basis of all saber combat, while the specials are meant to just be an extra flourish for a finisher or a last-ditch kinda move. In dual and staff, specials are used constantly for their unreal damage. Also, most dual and staff specials leave you much less open then they should, in my opinion. The single specials however, are just a joke. The katas dont bother me much... They seem fairly easy to avoid and counter. *Really, they're balanced fairly well.* Another pet peeve of mine... Specials use force in an effort to keep people from spamming them. Why then, do they use such a small amount that people spam them anyway? Bah! I'm all for a patch. The focus needs to be shifted away from specials and back to basic saber combat. Oh... One more thing. Rolls are supposed to be an evasive manuever. Why then, is it easier to dodge an opponent simply by running from them? Rolls in JK3 have far too many delays and are FAR to slow/short range to be at all effective. You may as well crouch walk 2 steps to your left or right! You'll get there faster, and you'll have your saber up to block! PATCH! This comment was edited by NofrikinfuN on Sep 26 2003 04:57pm. |
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(SKX) Dark Blade - Student 
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This is my post on lucasforums reguarding a change in jk3 OK I support changing maybe not single saber stance but putting back the left leftup saber flick would be nice BUT the main point is that both STAFF and DUAL SABER have an INDEFINATE number of moves in 1 combo. Thus a person with yellow stance (which has equal damage to staff I believe) can do only 5 hits but the staff can go on forever. Ok we all know the SW physics aren't real but based on what they have made in jk2 and the continuing physics of jk3, people using a saber get tired to an extent. That is the reason why they stop after 3 swings in red, 5 in yellow, and 9 in blue if doing spins. Why else would they have this in here for? So based of this info why should someone hold double the weight(staff and dual are 2 sabers but different forms) have the ability to not get tired and go on forever. Think about it this way. In the game when you use dark rage you end up having a slow down period, this is from exhaustion if you put it into perspective. If you want to call it mental or physical exhaution, you can be my guest. So why does someone who is using saber that require more energy due to the weight of the saber plus the extra motions of weilding( more movement = more energy use) be able to have more indurance than someone with half both those things? If you are gonna say something like "Hey this is a different game!" Is that really a valid arguement? Here is an example. In SW Ep 4 there was light saber combat. Also in Ep 5 there was light saber combat. Did the idea of saber fighting totally change? No, they both were based off the same idea and were virtual the same. Both were different movies but since it was a SERIES it kept the same Idea. Just like Dark forces is a series, the idea of saber combat has not really changed. IN Dark Forces 2, there were 2 swings. The primary swing is much like a fast stance and the secondary was like a yellow scissors combat. Then in Jk2 to Jk3 and so forth, it evolved but really didn't change. It kept the same basic rules. The way I think this game should be done is 1. Take all the regular moves such as overhead yellow, slide slice with staff, and everything not a special to ANY extent and balance all the sabers based of just basic moves. 2. Then take a look at the specials and balance them. You may ask why. There are a lot of duelers who don't like to use specials so if they want to use single saber why should the single saber basic attacks be bad compared to those of a staff of dual saber. I for one don't use specials. A friend of mine Luke Skywalker doesn't use specials except for lunge when someone tries to kill him via ydfa. SmilyKrazy doesn't use specials. The list of people goes on. Therefore create 2 lvls of balance. Do one for basic attack and then another for specials. I don't want to have to spam yellow kata to win. _______________ What is the difference between love and Herpes? Herpes lasts forever. (CDC joke) Padawans: Trad Redav, Darth Jello, Tallepyon, Shang Chi, Dopp, Karlin Duke, AuroN, Koushka, Damon, and Katan Brother to Xanatos |
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YinYang - Ex-Student 
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EVERYTHING needs to be patched needles to say but since were not in control of that we have to wait until they come out with 1 _______________ Sister to Smily,Axion,and CT Friend to ALL... SMILY, LUKE,MAGRA,AND KOYI RULE!!!!! . . : :There is ALWAYS 2 Yin and Yang , Good and Evil: : . . |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor 
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oh god yes it needs a patch...but that probably wont fix it _______________ INTP |
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Buzz - Student 
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No kidding, it was at least a month I think before they patched JK2. I agree that the game needs a patch but you also need to be patient about them. Wouldn't you rather have them identify several bugs and correct them all at once rather than having a patch every week for the next month or so because they've discovered another minute glitch? _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Give them a break guys, the game has only JUST come out. If a patch is released I wouldn't expect to see it for at least a month, unless the online player numbers drop super dramtically. As long as Raven see people playing, they'll assume its not that urgent. About e-mailing them, have you any idea how busy hey must get ? Think of all the games they've produced, SOF2, JKII. They still get loads of mail from people saying stupid stuff like 'how do I do this bit on this level??' Trust me, they're busy people but they do listen to the community and browse the main community site forums, and they do know what the majority want fixed. They'll get round to it if and when it suits them, not us _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Marcel Mandarijn - Student 
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I think I'll commit suicide if there won't be a patch in, say...4 days..:S ("the mask"'s voice:  )SOMEBODY STOP ME!! |
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Garos - Student 
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I think that they're all just really lazy. Like the people at Raven Games. They've made the game, and then after that they just don't wanna hear about it. I emailed a Raven contact thingie person, asking for a FULL list of NPC's for JA, (and I mean ALLLLLLLL of them), or if he could foward my message to someone who could get it for me. I haven't got a reply, and I emailed him/her about 4 days ago. Lazy buttholes |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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JKII 1.02 was actually one of the best versions :d realistic saber damage, although some of the stuff did have to be fixed. We do need a patch for JK:JA though, no question about it. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Xavier - Ex-Student 
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PATCH! PATCH! PATCH! PATCH! PATCH! PATCH! _______________ [Left] |
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Patch.. Patch.. we need a paaatch! _______________ I'm not Insane; You are my Insanity. Genetic Freak || Certified Psycho || Wielder of the dreaded Cookie Power |
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Cyb - Student 
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yeah gamecity great ping server for meh but shame bout they never update.... anyway.. PATCH!!!!!! _______________ ~~ Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none! ~~ |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Whats GameCity gotta do with this? They suck lol dumb E-Rix never answers to anything :S |
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Darkwood - Student 
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seems bitchin' _______________ -Darkwood- |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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yep, even posted in their forums! _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. |
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Darkwood - Student
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tried talking to them at #gamecity.nl on Qnet? _______________ -Darkwood- |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired
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I got news for ya...If GameCity server wont even answer emails or upgrade to the JA Mod 1.4 when it came out, what makes you think they will listen to us this time. Its like talking to a brick wall. _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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PATCH, YOU RAVEN BASTARDS!!!! PAAAAATTTTCCCCCHHHH!!!! _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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