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(How) did Anakin bring the Force into balance?
Oct 17 2003 07:38pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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Bail Hope of Belouve
There has been a lot of discussion about this on the web and fansites, and stuff, so here:
How did you think Anakin brought the Force into balance?
Some people say it was because he killed the last two Sith alive.
Others say it was because he slaughtered the Jedi.
I say it was this:
He didn't only kill every Jedi, he also killed every Sith.
The universe would have to start all over again.
No Jedi... No Sith...
This would of course have a tremendous effect on the Jedi after this.
In the Old Republic, the Jedi were arrogant, because they thought they thought they were invincible.
Now they know they can very easy be destroyed
So that's why you have better Jedi, that are sure of themselves, but aren't overconfident.

And now an even bigger headbreaker:
Was Anakin supposed to go to the Dark Side? Was it meant to happen, or was it one of the possibilities that could happen?

I think he was supposed to go to the Dark Side, the Force had that in mind for him. Because, the way I look at it, the Jedi where arrogant and needed to be destroyed. They where to sure of themselves, according to Yoda. And they should be, because for over a thousand years, there were no enemies that could stand against a Jedi, so the Jedi became (in the eyes of the normal man) invincible. That's why when kids are trained to be a Jedi, they expect to be so powerful... Which brings arrogance, right?

So the Jedi that weren't arrogant (like Yoda, Echuu-Shen John) escape the slaughter miraculously :). But I'm still guessing why Obi-Wan was allowed to be alive. Was it because he had something to do in his life? Or maybe he had to set right a fault he once made?
And if you think he wasn't arrogant, then look at this: in Ep1 he said: "I am ready to face the trials". Arrogant, right?
In Ep1 he thought he was ready to take on a Padawan of his own. And he thought he could instruct him just as wel as master Yoda, very arrogant, right?

Anyway, post your comments on both these subjects :D
And feel free to give as lot of critiscism as you want :)
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This post was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Jun 24 2004 09:51pm.

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Feb 13 2004 07:40pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

he'll probably go:

"well.. yes... he brought balance by making Padmè pregnatn..."

and we think: "I could've done that too :|"

:P
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Feb 12 2004 06:38pm

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/me kidnaps GL

TELL US!

:P :D
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Feb 12 2004 06:28pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

you cant , becouse this stuff is all made up.
There isent nothing 100% sure
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Feb 11 2004 09:31pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

but how can you be sure?:)
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Feb 11 2004 07:57pm

MarkoZ
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 MarkoZ

He brought the Force to balance by killing Palpatine and bringing the Sith line to an end. Also, if you want to get the technical details about it you may want to read the books. They supply a massive explanation.:D
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Jan 16 2004 11:19am

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Vader killed Obi-1

And I think that Anakin killed the last of the Sith, and so he gave Luke the oppertonity to start all over again, and to combine the light and Dark side, like it was in the beginning, to balace it out in the person itself. But then again, there are always people who want to have more power and let go of the Light side and are pure Dark...
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Jan 16 2004 07:59am

Sindweller
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 Sindweller

did he really killed obi wan?
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Jan 11 2004 09:09pm

Zertz
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 Zertz

Behind the scenes says in an earlier draft it was originally Skywalker who founded the Jedi and led them, and the Emporer betrays them. This is back when A Galaxy Far Far Away was in the future in our galaxy
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Jan 11 2004 08:03pm

Fire
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 Fire

I don't really think Anakin brought the force to balance, but more as his son Luke did. Cuz he like turned Vader back around. :D

Jan 11 2004 02:48pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Me agrees, the old story of Good vs Evil.
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Jan 11 2004 06:23am

Dammerung
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When the Jedi were wiped out, there were about 2 well known Jedi (Obi Wan and Yoda) and 2 sith lords (The Emperor and Darth Vader), so technically the force was in balance.

But we all know the force flows through everything, and all creatures, regardless of whether they know it or not, are somewhat predisposed to a side of the force.

I think what the prophecy means is that Anakin will restore order to the force, as opposed to balancing it out. The Sith are devoted to using the power of the force to create chaos and discord throughout the galaxy. It is through the sith that the force is out of balance, therefore, anakin kills the emperor and himself, destroying the last remaining sith lords, and restoring order to the force.

BTW: A skywalker was the first Jedi? Tell us more!
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Jan 10 2004 10:30pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

The Force was out of balance, whether from the moment when the prophecy of the chosen one first started or some later event. The Emperor was clouding the Force. So when Anakin killed the Emperor he could have brought the Force into balance because he destroyed the Emperor's clouding presence or because he eliminated the last Sith Lord. And the Emperor was the last Sith Lord because Vader was destroyed the moment Anakin moved to kill the Emperor.

Another way to look at it is a balancing act. The scales are constantly being tipped either way. So Anakin's offspring could continue to bring the Force into balance and keep it there. Prophecies are always open to interpretation and to limit what you think they means will likely make you miss what they make happen.
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Jan 10 2004 09:48pm

Jawa Rikard Falk
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 Jawa Rikard Falk

he did he bring balance in the end when he save luke from the emperor so the jedis can rise agen
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Dec 27 2003 03:34pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

let's quote from Lord Of the Rings

It is not because of some special quality that other don't have. But it is appointed to him...

You see, a Skywalker was the first Jedi, so erm... it would only be right if a Skywalker would be the savior of the Jedi;)
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Dec 27 2003 01:29pm

Axion
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 Axion

well he becomes vader.. so he messed up that balance he was supposed to bring but according to the prophecy he is the only one who can bring balance into the force but why him?
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Dec 27 2003 12:03pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

well, we don't know, that's what we've been discussing
what it means to be "in balance"
and stuff like that

But yeah, that is one of the solutions we've come up with:)
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Dec 27 2003 12:02pm

Jawa Rikard Falk
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maybe its not was anakin maybe it was luke some bring balance to the force and the problem with the balance of the force was palpatine right
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Dec 26 2003 09:03pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

and so far
only lightsiders do that when they die...
so he came back to light
he closed the gap
period:P
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Dec 26 2003 08:48pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Yea, but face the faxts. He didn't.period. But he did become one with the force, so there is a plus point.
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Dec 26 2003 07:36pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Vader didn't just die...
He did something that was deemed impossibe
And I'm not even talking about the fact that he killed the emperor, which is the only reason why he died... If he hadn't had done that, I'm sure he would've lived on:)
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Dec 26 2003 07:31pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

he trained another one the ways of a Jedi, Vader just died. right?
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Dec 26 2003 07:05pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

but that doesn't mean that he came back to the light
he just walked away;)
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Dec 26 2003 06:54pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Done that before, with erm....*checking*
Ulic Qel-Droma, apprenance of Exar-Kun
He betrayed his master and "walked" away from the Dark Side, and the Sith...
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Dec 26 2003 02:40pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I stand with my idea

for those that are too lazy to browse backwards, this is it:
According to Yoda, it was impossible to go from Dark to Light
So, it is reasonable to assume that there is a gap between the two Force sides
When Anakin came back from Dark to Light, he effectively closed the gap, since after his death, it was very easy to go back and forth between the two sides. Just look at Luke, even he fell to the Dark Side and just came back. Rosh, fell to the Dark Side and just came back. A lot of people could fall to the Dark Side and just come back. So I think it was the gap that closed...
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Dec 26 2003 11:27am

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

JavaGuy has a point there. but if we check the history of the Jedi and the Sith, the Jedi were there first, and the Sith came from Jedi that were fallen to the violent side of themselfs. So there was a good balance first, when there were alone Jedi's. But it's also a fight between good and evil. There was peace when there were no sith, but they wanted more power and began fighting for it, even against other Sith, So I think that the Sith AND Dark Side are at a minimum is the balance in the force.
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