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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student  |
There has been a lot of discussion about this on the web and fansites, and stuff, so here: How did you think Anakin brought the Force into balance? Some people say it was because he killed the last two Sith alive. Others say it was because he slaughtered the Jedi. I say it was this: He didn't only kill every Jedi, he also killed every Sith. The universe would have to start all over again. No Jedi... No Sith... This would of course have a tremendous effect on the Jedi after this. In the Old Republic, the Jedi were arrogant, because they thought they thought they were invincible. Now they know they can very easy be destroyed So that's why you have better Jedi, that are sure of themselves, but aren't overconfident. And now an even bigger headbreaker: Was Anakin supposed to go to the Dark Side? Was it meant to happen, or was it one of the possibilities that could happen? I think he was supposed to go to the Dark Side, the Force had that in mind for him. Because, the way I look at it, the Jedi where arrogant and needed to be destroyed. They where to sure of themselves, according to Yoda. And they should be, because for over a thousand years, there were no enemies that could stand against a Jedi, so the Jedi became (in the eyes of the normal man) invincible. That's why when kids are trained to be a Jedi, they expect to be so powerful... Which brings arrogance, right? So the Jedi that weren't arrogant (like Yoda, Echuu-Shen John) escape the slaughter miraculously  . But I'm still guessing why Obi-Wan was allowed to be alive. Was it because he had something to do in his life? Or maybe he had to set right a fault he once made? And if you think he wasn't arrogant, then look at this: in Ep1 he said: "I am ready to face the trials". Arrogant, right? In Ep1 he thought he was ready to take on a Padawan of his own. And he thought he could instruct him just as wel as master Yoda, very arrogant, right? Anyway, post your comments on both these subjects  And feel free to give as lot of critiscism as you want _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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but that doesn't mean that he came back to the light he just walked away  _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lord Jaws - Student 
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Done that before, with erm....*checking* Ulic Qel-Droma, apprenance of Exar-Kun He betrayed his master and "walked" away from the Dark Side, and the Sith... _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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I stand with my idea for those that are too lazy to browse backwards, this is it: According to Yoda, it was impossible to go from Dark to Light So, it is reasonable to assume that there is a gap between the two Force sides When Anakin came back from Dark to Light, he effectively closed the gap, since after his death, it was very easy to go back and forth between the two sides. Just look at Luke, even he fell to the Dark Side and just came back. Rosh, fell to the Dark Side and just came back. A lot of people could fall to the Dark Side and just come back. So I think it was the gap that closed... _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lord Jaws - Student
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JavaGuy has a point there. but if we check the history of the Jedi and the Sith, the Jedi were there first, and the Sith came from Jedi that were fallen to the violent side of themselfs. So there was a good balance first, when there were alone Jedi's. But it's also a fight between good and evil. There was peace when there were no sith, but they wanted more power and began fighting for it, even against other Sith, So I think that the Sith AND Dark Side are at a minimum is the balance in the force. _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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any new people's opinions? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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don't use complicated sentences anyway yeah, those are the possibilities... _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JavaGuy - Student 
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"Always in motion is the future." --Yoda If we accept the crappy prophecy scenario, Anakin was destined to bring the Force into balance but didn't necessarily have to turn to the Dark Side. We all choose our own paths, but for him all possible paths converge at a single point. Was the Force "unbalanced" when the Light Side was dominant, so that bringing it into balance meant increasing the power of the Dark Side? Or is the natural/proper balance a state in which the Dark Side's power is minimal? If it's the former then he helped bring it into balance by becoming Darth Vader; if the later then he brought it into balance but only after he personally unbalanced it himself. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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then it wasn't stupid Yaay, my forum is popular these days j/k_______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Mreoton - Student |
i knew that |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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Luke wouldn't leave without Ben so ben had do die or Luke would've never left without him, and he would be caught by Vader, and there would be no hope anymore... So he allowed himself to be killed, since he knew he would become one with the force _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Mreoton - Student |
yea and wtf was the point of ben kenobi givin up in the middle of that duel 0_o |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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heyhey! Good point there... But they just needed a reason (I think) why Yoda didn't just kick the crap out of Darth Vader and The Emperor _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JavaGuy - Student
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I think the whole "prophecy" storyline is retarded and did a lot of damage to the Star Wars series. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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there can.... who do you think trained Desann? No-one? Well... he learned to use the Light Side in the Jedi Academy under the guidance of Luke Skywalker. But when he turned evil... who would be there to teach him? no-one... and still, he's a powerful bloke I think you can teach yourself too Like Luke did after he left Yoda. When he hid on Tatooine in the house of Ben Kenobi. He came back and was uber strong and uber wise... something to think about... I think he trained himself _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lord Jaws - Student 
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well, not the dark side no. There are students that will be drawn to the Dark side, Like Desann in Jedi Knight. But he destroyed the Sith. Without a master there cannot be an apprentance right? _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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kool_aide I don't think you can destroy the Dark Side _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lord Jaws - Student
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No, becouse he destroyed His Dark Side mentor Lord Sidious, and "betrayed" Lord vader, like Obi-one would say, he made a final end for the Sith. That you can make up becouse they do not arise again in the following 3 movies. And yes, they will encounter "spirits" from old jedi knights and Sith lords and kill those, but still anakin made the end. _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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kool_aide - Student 
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he brought balance because his son luke came and destroyed the darkside _______________ I am the "Juice Man"  Drink up
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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yeah, I know that already... seeing I'm the first to say that in this thread _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lord Jaws - Student
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No, it's hte council that agrees with it, just not Yoda. _______________ One night, I was lying in my bed, looking up at the stars and I said to myself: "Where the h*** is my ceiling?! |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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yeah, duuh But he said: "Your apprentice Skywalker will be" I mean like that sounds like he's agreeing, or doesn't it? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Lackeh- Retired - Student 
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The scene at the end of Episode I, you tells obi-wan that while the council agrees for Obi-wan to be Anakin's master, Yoda does not. _______________ A champion is someone who keeps getting up; even when they can't. Founder Of the Jedi Academy Adlut Support Group. PIE!!!!! Padawan of Katan. Brother to MOTREC, DarkDragon, (SKX)DarkBlade, Jacen Aratan, Achilles, Kool_Aide, EvilSquirrel, and Katan's Padawans. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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and what do you mean by that? look at what? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Plo Koon - Student 
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you couldnt tell that from the movies? watch episode 1 man  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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ah! now there's something the movie doesn't show... the expanded universe and the books, do show this: yoda did NOT agree with Anakin being Obi-Wan's paddie the other council members voted yes, he voted no I know, in the movie, it seems like Yoda agrees, but he actually doesn't. he just stops fighting the opinion of the rest of the council _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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