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People leaving because of ragnos map
Oct 29 2003 12:12am

sharwyn
 - ex-Student
Some one I know it leaving because of the ragnos map

its not the fact that there is a *rude room* on the map, the person said that its the fact that people are going there when they are playing and are rubbing it in that persons face.

If u r on the map and are going to the room don't u can go to them room on a solo game SO STOP IT !!!!!!!!!!!!

And there should be some warning about the content within the map

People of the age of 10 play this game, I don’t think its right that they can see thing like that on a game like this, and I am angry that “The JA” hasn’t done any thing to try and fix the situation. Such as stop running the map until the problem is fixxed

GET THE MAP SORTED OUT SOON JA K/T/C please !


This post was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 11:45pm.

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Oct 29 2003 12:12am

Silent Whisper
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 Silent Whisper

I think everyone has made their opinions clear and before anymore hostility emerges I'm going to close the thread. The map clearly violates the rules of the JA and must be removed. Most of us don't have a problem with it but someone will, trust me. Let's all shake hands and walk our seperate ways.
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Oct 29 2003 12:12am

aph3x
 - Retired
 aph3x

umm... :mad:

the room is hidden. you have to destroy a wall to get into it. its in a small alcove 5 feet above a pool of lava. nobody can make you go in there. the problem is NOT with the map. i dont think there even IS a problem, because nobody except one person knows what is going on, and she isnt even around to talk about it.

well, you have everyone's attention now.

Oct 29 2003 12:03am

Khalek[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Khalek[JAP]

*sigh*

Please Jello, Kyp (bro), Sh@dow...stop until tomorrow?

Let's see if 'she' comes back or not, and what she says. I understand the issue has moved beyond that, but please...return to the point of origin. Until we know EXACTLY what the issue is, we cannot properly discuss it...


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Oct 29 2003 12:03am

Hardwired
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 Hardwired

I disagree...

Most guys wouldn't care...

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Going to bed...check back here tomorrow afternoon....
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Oct 29 2003 12:00am

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

Edit: WTF! Nobody is being sexist. We'd say the same thing if it was a guy complaining about it!

i fined that hard to believe

an other point as i said before
if they where pics of men in there and the women talked about it there would be up roar

Oct 28 2003 11:52pm

Jello`
 - Student
 Jello`

If you are that offended by it, turn on MTV for about 5 minutes and you'll easily be more disguested. But I see where this is coming from. Its your choice to go into the room, so if your that offended by it, dont go in there. Now I, myself, have not seen the room. Seriously, theres one of 3 reactions depending on your age group. Young: "Eeeew... thats icky", Teen (Like Jacen Aratan!): Meh...., Adult: Thats nothing, time to move on. Well, thats all I have to say. WEeeee!

Edit: WTF! Nobody is being sexist. We'd say the same thing if it was a guy complaining about it!
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Oct 28 2003 11:39pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

its not about the "girl" any more, if your going to say stuff SAY it to me not her

as i was saying about sexism

quote

*and allow some girl, who is crying for attention.*


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Oct 28 2003 11:36pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

lost respect for the people who thinks its ok to have a map wiht a room like that
doesn't mean i hate the people. just means i don't respect you

my up bring told me it was wrong to talk and treat (pics like that) women as just objects

and those who want to say stuff to me say freely i really don't mined, i like hearing other peoples views.

Oct 28 2003 11:31pm

Khalek[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Khalek[JAP]

STOP!

No-one is going to persuade anyone else, right?

Let Jacen investigate...let's see what those involved say before placing our opinions..

I know that stating oyur opinion is the point of these forums, but sometimes it's a good idea just to hold your voice a while...please?


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http://www.crazyfray.co.uk/home.htm - major update coming soon, yeah right.... £3.00 to be pledged so far to the JA fund... :D Just type PLEDGE ME UP KHALEK in any interesting post, and if it passes the funkolology test, 50p goes in the kitty...:D This one's for Jacen...;) http://www.bash.org/?7838


Oct 28 2003 11:29pm

Katan
 - Student
 Katan

Even though the map has been removed, I still had a few things I wanted to say....

First, I dont see a point in removing it, as Solo said, it is a great map to teach on until we get an official one.

Also, as solo said, no one spawns there, no one forces you to go there, you dont want to see it, dont go in it.

Losing respect for us? Why?

If there were a room full of men? I wouldnt particularly care, I wouldnt go in there, as long as I am not forced to look at it, it isnt bothering me is it?.

Sorry for bring back all of this, but, I think it is stupid to remove a great map, for the reason of a room, that doesnt even show anything whatsoever.

But, whatever. If its that big of a problem....

Edit: I agree with Buzz, it could encourage people to use that as a profile pic., but, I think until we find a map that is just as good/better we should keep that map going.
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Oct 28 2003 11:28pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

Let me quote:

"Like I said that map is the best one for classes that I know off but if you find me a better one I'll remove it."
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Oct 28 2003 11:27pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

I personally don't have a problem with the map, or what's in it. Someone put it in there and if you don't want to be exposed to it you don't have to download it or go on a server running it. However, I would really encourage finding a new map to use JACen. Its not really showing anything bad but... what if some people decided to use those images on their profiles here at the academy? Don't you think that would violate the rules on what you can use for your profile. If its something that we wouldn't allow on the website, should it be something we allow to be seen on our servers?
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Oct 28 2003 11:19pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

well i've done what i needed too the map is being removed

TY good points from all

Oct 28 2003 11:17pm

Khalek[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Khalek[JAP]

Everyone stop a moment. Please.

If not, someone will post something they will regret.

I'm not even gonna post my opinion on this, it would inflame things...All I'm gonna do is provide info.

The person who has a problem with the map is being talked to on their profile right now, by thos ewho were there. Anni, we both know who we're talking about...I understand and appreciate that you are sticking up for an interpretation of the rules and the person involved, and that is fine...and good...but let's find out what he/she ;) says about that first. OK?

Please, I can't take anyone's right to speak away (nor would I want to...I could be wrong as usual) but I would ask everyone to think for one moment before posting more. Regardless of which side you take, everyone appreciates that this is a sensitive issue. To add to this could push things a little further. I know that the people here that have no problem with the map are not sick, twisted individuals (except Jacen...j/k;)), nor are the others being oversensitive...just different sides, k?

If you still feel bad about the map after the person involved has spoken, then talk to the JACs. That's your individual choice.

But this could turn nasty easily, and that ain't what the JA is about.

:)
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http://www.crazyfray.co.uk/home.htm - major update coming soon, yeah right.... £3.00 to be pledged so far to the JA fund... :D Just type PLEDGE ME UP KHALEK in any interesting post, and if it passes the funkolology test, 50p goes in the kitty...:D This one's for Jacen...;) http://www.bash.org/?7838


Oct 28 2003 11:17pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

errm how am i doing that
just saying i can't change ur views

Oct 28 2003 11:17pm

JAcen LW Solo
 - Retired
 JAcen LW Solo

Aight. That map being on JA servers is entirely my fault. Why?

1st - We don't have an official teaching map for the Academy yet. That was the best one that I know off to teach classes because it has a big room very similar to a class room and several small rooms that can be used for private teaching.

2nd - I did not know about that room until recently.

3rd - It is not porn. Yes I agree having a small room 4 pictures with half naked women it's not a good thing. But please don't call it porn or ppl will think there are pictures of explicit sex there.

Now that map is in Wireplay and in the Classes server for classes purposes. The room is hidden and plp do not respawn there or fall there by accident. They only go there because they want to.

Like I said that map is the best one for classes that I know off but if you find me a better one I'll remove it.

If someone is speaking in a maner that insults you please report that person as it is done on the other servers, thats not that samll room's fault.
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Oct 28 2003 11:16pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

So when the arguments fail we turn to personal attacks...nice
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Oct 28 2003 11:14pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

if that’s what u all think that’s what u all think

nothing i can do to change the up bringing of Prejudice within families

ok so the person who has a problem with this HAS A PROBLEM they just want attention

how... how not even goign to say what i'm thinking


This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 11:16pm.

Oct 28 2003 11:09pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

Im with Kyp on this. This all seems so pointless. Seriosly...if i didn't know better i would say that this thread was just made for the sake of complaining on something...anything at all really...

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Loosing respect because of a diffrence of opinion it pretty shallow...i must say...
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This comment was edited by Hardwired on Oct 28 2003 11:14pm.

Oct 28 2003 11:08pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

i see no one sees where i'm coming from,
i really didn't think this would happen

i have lost respect for most of you

This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 11:10pm.

Oct 28 2003 11:01pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

what freedom PRAY TELL

the freedom to look at wemon when playing a game?

This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 11:06pm.

Oct 28 2003 10:59pm

Achilles
 - Student
 Achilles

But like I said, get a magazine! I mean, if your that desperate for half nude women (yum yum :P :P)
get a Victorians Secret magazine, hahaha!
and plus the stuff in that magazine is not within 10x as disgusting as the Ragnos map
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This comment was edited by Achilles on Oct 28 2003 11:01pm.

Oct 28 2003 10:59pm

Dark Knight Kyp
 - Ex-Student
 Dark Knight Kyp

Thank you acheilles, but if shadow is that botherd by the room dont go into it, it's as simple as that, if we ban this map, we ban a part of are freedoms.

-Kyp Durron

Oct 28 2003 10:55pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

ok all those who think u can't get there, go to server (wireplay) i bet any one there can show u how to get there

OR THE ja CAN BAN the map funny who NONe of u came up with that

This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 10:56pm.

Oct 28 2003 10:55pm

Achilles
 - Student
 Achilles

No, Mace is actually got it wrong, so are you Kyp, it is accesable if you break a peice of rock near the pit of the lava, there you can teleport into the room, now I would have no beef at all if it was only accessable with cheats on, but still I had my little brother (only 10 or 11) open up the PK3 file to look at the music or the textures, and he opened up these 4 textures and went 'What the hck?!' Just a few days ago on PCGamemods.com and saw a Nude Pack, (Yes Jan and Tavion were actually nude) on a site that anyone can access it. But let's face it guys, people are idiots, and there is nothing you can do about it, the only thing pCGamemods.com could do was delete it, is that gonna change that twisted perverts mind? NO! So, girls, you are just going to either get off the server when there are perverted men on the map, or deal with it.

Peace out!

The man (Yes I'm a man :P)
Stephen -Achilles-
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JA Brother to D@RTHM@ULR.I.P. Vladarion, may he find peace in the afterlife.


This comment was edited by Achilles on Oct 28 2003 10:56pm.

Oct 28 2003 10:47pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

No do u even know how to get there?

u can get there with without cheats on

This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 10:48pm.

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