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Feniks - Student  |
Hi, i got this probleme that whenever i fight a staff user and he starts to lame his butterfly attack i get killed in a matter of seconds, running away is no answer but i can' seem to find a decent counter attack for his butterfly ... im more then open for suggestions cause its kinda irritating, thanks  forever_______________ " The acceptance of others is not a guarantee. Like everyone else a Jedi is accepted or not based on his behavior. The Jedi who believes that he is more important then others only demonstrates that his opinion is to be ignored." ~ Jedi Master Dooku on the subject of Arrogance ~ |
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dartH|Bodhi - Student 
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"the favourite of course, now how did you know that? someone scratched your back latly?" Heh, no I have done it in SP alot. The double decap is the best looking though. Duel Sabers have the best saber-lock finishes of the three types. ...staff is still better...  _______________ The Force is a powerful ally... ...and a terrible foe. |
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Kel Katarn - Ex-Student 
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the favourite of course, now how did you know that? someone scratched your back latly? _______________ The dark side is for the weak, for they could not resist it. The Katarns rule! |
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dartH|Bodhi - Student
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"Ohh and getting saber locked against a good dual saber user is a very bad idea..lol..if you don't know what i mean you'll find out soon enough" What do you mean Kel? The one where they knock your saber away and decapitate you with both sabers?  The one where they move your saber away with one and impale you in the chest with the other? Or my favourite, the one where they hold the lock with the one saber and then use the force to move the other around in an arc to stab their opponent in the back? Mind you the staff has the Maul special by knocking the saber up and then a spinning back stab! _______________ The Force is a powerful ally... ...and a terrible foe. |
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Kel Katarn - Ex-Student
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Ohh and getting saber locked against a good dual saber user is a very bad idea..lol..if you don't know what i mean you'll find out soon enough _______________ The dark side is for the weak, for they could not resist it. The Katarns rule! |
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Kel Katarn - Ex-Student 
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HI here's my comment about that hated butterfly attack *Tosses some katarn wisdom* battel experience 6# in JKG the last part of the damn butterfly (where the staff barely moves as it the charter ends the combo by turnig round) it has often killed me when i had full health and schield..However double saber 'shield' almost always kills a butterflyattcker and i don't mean the spinning kata. This is because the butterfly get's stuck against your rapid saber attack. NEAT! Like rapid skull basching a butterfly to a pulp. Of course there's also a way to counter this but i ain't gonna say it heh _______________ The dark side is for the weak, for they could not resist it. The Katarns rule! |
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Gustoph Reinhardt - Ex-Student 
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Er, I guess I can call my technique the scissors then ..... I basically just keep attacking and turn right towards my target then to the opposite direction. |
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brx - Ex-Student 
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many good players (i'm talking about skilled players who are good with any saber  ) have adopted exactly 2 staff techniques. left-right scissors and bf. that's it. the scissors own everything and bf, well..anyway, there is no real counter to a butterfly, although i have heard people talk about the blue single saber kata as a good counter. what i usually do is evade the bf (force jump) and do a quick lunge into the staff user when their bf ends (last spin). if you are close enough they might believe in a chance to still hit you with their move, being easy targets once it has ended. of course, the good bf lamers know when do establish distance even when being in a bf. _______________ When the winds of change roam the land, there are those who raise walls - and others who build pin wheels. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Well yeah, then GL in respawning  Nah roll stab works for my most of the times |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student 
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Darthy, he doesn't want to just avoid it, but to counter ! Odan-Wei _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan - [DJ is my beloved wife! - JA Family: Brothers:
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D@RtHM@UL - Student
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Just jump, or roll away, easy to avoid butterflies |
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SilkMonkey - Distributor of Cold Ones 
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I'd call them inoffensive names like Boog, and Murga. Or I'd refuse to duel em. Depends on the person. _______________ |-HK-47 -SilkMonkey: You are receiving a warning for being_too_sexy. If you do not stop, action will be taken against you.|| (11:13:43) � Virtue dances for Silk ||Smiling owner of Smilykrazy's 6000th comment =) ||Odan Wei's Proud Big Brother|| Janus is my official TaruTaru Cuddly Animal Type Person. ||(@Virtue) Or you could just be a man and set fire to your genitals.....you won't fall asleep for days after that.......trust me.||Thomas Skywalker er for sexy for sitt eget beste!!!!| Not changing sig until the JA loosens up. (Started: Aug 31, 2005) |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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well put java, Best way to look at it, is that when you do learn the best way to counter it, the people who spam the move wont be a problem to you anymore. Just do your counter and own them. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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JavaGuy - Student 
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"Laming" in duel mode? LOL! Attacking before bow is laming, and attacking when the other guy puts up a chat box and says he needs to answer the phone or something, but using the same move a lot as "laming?" Sounds like he's just trying to give you practice countering that move. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Axion - Student 
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strafe out of the way and counter it _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
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Buzz - Student 
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I don't know, I think if all you're doing is using the butterfly over and over again, not even trying another move, I'd call that pretty lame _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Silent-sniper - Ex-Student 
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Hmmmm...I find it quite hard to lame with a butterfly attack. Maybe I suck but the best way to defend in my opinion would be to wait for the staff to stop moving and lame the losers ass with a cheap move to piss them off (like the dual saber barrier) _______________ "So, how does it feel, being able to take a head off at 1000 yards away?" |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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I'm not gonna say how to stop it, only that you stop calling it laming The only lame thing is people complaing about stuff, fight the power, and carry on....... _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Wolfwood - Student 
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Since it starts whit an attack that stays on the same place, you have time to roll back, wait till the kata nearly reaches its end, Roll back and roll stab him. Do avoid the last hit because its very tricky. _______________ ~ Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead ~ |
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YinYang - Ex-Student 
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Since I am a Staff user I DONT user butterlfy due to its trash of taken so much sheilds and health from the target what I recommend is with singel:a good lunge willl counter it but u need to REALY time it good,or usin red style against it is preety good to ie moveing to ur right or left and attack from that direction,for dual sabers:ither the saber twirl special or that jump spin special once again u need to tiem it GOOD, as for staff use the saber twirl special or backwards jump attack, remember TIMEING is key so u wont take lots or ne dmg at all ALL of this is just my experience with the butterfly so hope that helps ya _______________ Sister to Smily,Axion,and CT Friend to ALL... SMILY, LUKE,MAGRA,AND KOYI RULE!!!!! . . : :There is ALWAYS 2 Yin and Yang , Good and Evil: : . . |
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Janus - Retired 
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Feniks, running away is too slow, jump away will get you out of there. If they do it surprisingly on you, theres not much you can do. It's lame, I'm all about the staff and fight honorably, so if you ever need a good fight, I know myself, Odan, and alot of others will fight without even doing a kata, roll, or any other sort of cheese that takes away from the fun. *Side note* check out the spam i left on the test server, hope you enjoy _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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I use staff most of the time, but i try not to spam a move or be too predictable. I counter the butterfly by side stepping out of the way(still have to watch out cause they can change direction in mid air). Or jump high over it and try to come down timing a strike as you land. After a butterfly, you can be slightly disorientated, so it'll give you a second advantage. Or just keep dodging till they get frustrated and stop doing it. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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VirusD - Student 
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jk3 is so full of lamo  _______________ '** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**' '**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**" '**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend. |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student
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If you use single, try to counter with ydfa or rdfa. Timing is tough but it will eventually show the guy his butterfly won't save him for long. Otherwise, you take a staff and spam the butterfly to him for a while, and when he begins to whine that you're spamming, you explain him that he's doing the same goddamn thing over and over... At last, if that guy doesn't want to understand, just refuse to fight him, tell him he's not worth the effort or better keep silent and walk away. Spammers are a pain in the a** but if you stay cool and act wisely you make them go crazy. I've learned that the hard way like you. Btw a lot of ppl in here are worthy adversaries that do not spam the same moves over and over again... So I hope to see you soon on the server Odan-Wei _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan - [DJ is my beloved wife! - JA Family: Brothers:
Virtue, Furi0us, Vladarion, Hardwired, Janus, Axion, D@RtHM@UL, Motrec, Mike , xAnAtOs , Luke Skywalker; Little bro to SilkMonkey ; Special kind of brother to Kenyon ; Sisters in-law: Rosered, Ain-Soph Aur] Photoshop works: click here |
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Feniks - Student 
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like i said running away doesnt help i need an effective counter attack, im talking bout a guy who doest stop to butterfly _______________ " The acceptance of others is not a guarantee. Like everyone else a Jedi is accepted or not based on his behavior. The Jedi who believes that he is more important then others only demonstrates that his opinion is to be ignored." ~ Jedi Master Dooku on the subject of Arrogance ~ |
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Xan - Ex-Student 
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Just make a roll to the side then he wont hit you .. that works for me _______________ ******************* www.gOtjO.cjb.NET ******************* |
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