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Rendar - Student  |
Anyone have any tips for a staff user vs a red single user that only does red triple combo and then jumps away. I can find anything that works. The only attacks i cant do to them end up dealing 40 or more damage to me as well. So basicly if dont attack i get hurt, and if i do attack i get hurt. I cant find a way to beat crouching red triple followed by an immediate back flip. |
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Frosty - Ex-Student 
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I find fighting red especially hard if he is lagging!! just can't time when to go in  _______________ I'm leaving, on a jet plane~ |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Yeah, but if you time it right, and play a little footsies (going back and forth to try to trick them in which way you will attack), you can fit in those swipes. But if you mess up, BIG BOO BOO! So you've got to be really careful, and master the dodging and timing. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Frosty - Ex-Student
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I have the same problem with red~~ the red masters always jump away after the 3rd swing (or 2nd when you are charging) and its so easy to get killed when the staff clashes with red _______________ I'm leaving, on a jet plane~ |
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Ashyr - Student
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Secret to Staff v Single (if you are Staff) is: Timing, timing, and TIMING. Timing the Staff, is one of the hardest aspects of the game, but once you get the hange of it, than you can take the Staff a long way. If they are using red, than you have to hit between swings. Since the Staff swing is faster, you can fit a swing (or maybe two right spins) in. I usually keep a safe distance and listen when I hear the second swing, then I charge in. That way, if they have a third swing, then I will get to him right after it, and if he stops at two, then I can get a swing in before he can start the next combo. If they are using yellow, my advice is that you use scissors occationally and fast swings. (People don't usually use yellow, so I haven't developed very much strategy to it.) If a single is using blue, more than likely (epecially if it's a newb) is going to lunge you. If they are trying to lunge you, tease them by running close and far, close and far, ect, untill they actually lunge or change styles, then you can get in a swing. Well, now that I've told everyone my secrets, I'll stop babbling and let you get on with your life. PS: I think there should be a Staff Class. I'd like to expand on my skills, but there isn't one. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Steinin - Student 
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Switch stance with saber staff and go on the attack.  _______________ 362 Ohi on! |
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Dante Valmont - Retired 
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Wow this thread is still alive? Well i am retiring soon but i have come to notice that the staff users have gotten more defensive against red, to the point they won't even move until they are sure they can't be hit. So basically now it makes for a very boring and ridiculous fight. No longer can i say that simply red alone can beat some staff users, because they remind me back in the day of the defensive whores in jk2 that i got pissed off at so much And now even the dual users are learning how easy it is to beat red. Thats the sad thing, i knew how easy it really was to beat yet kept using the strategy since not a lot of people figured it out. That, is where yellow now comes in. It's impossible for a staff to be defensive agaisnt yellow and they think they have a major advantage. Surprisingly, yellow can in fact dominate..despite the big hits you take when your blow is blocked. Red can easily win against staff users who fight, but against defensive people (whores, as we call it), yellow is needed. As always it is the man who makes the saber, but the way the man makes the saber has changed a bit from when we started this. _______________ "A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary" |
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Steinin - Student
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And never do a Kata. They will lunge you to your death. Believe me. I learned it the hard way.  _______________ 362 Ohi on! |
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Steinin - Student 
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Try to stay out of reach all the time. Once they are done striking move in and slash sideways. And then jump out. Don't do the following very often: Jump near them a little to the side perhaps and do a side-way butterfly move their direction. It's kind of tricky to dodge. But many could consider it cheating. _______________ 362 Ohi on! |
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Janus - Retired 
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Red although powerful has that delay, and over the couple months of fighting red stance, you see that slowness come forth when you watch for it, and you can time a few swipes in there after a swing. It's tough to do though, and a good red user will usually have a backup plan to counter your plan.... _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Thomasooo - Student 
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I usually just run up to them and slash at them a couple of times while they're open! That does the trick _______________ In the navy and LOVING it!
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Janus - Retired
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Defensive Sid? You? Bah! _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Carve - Student 
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Alright. Forgive me if I'm a bit defensive, lol Edit: I've spent a while learning staff, and beating red is easy for the most part. Use yellow to lure them in then bust them up with the staff from close range. Walking and using forward+left+right+left+right works very well. Also, running in after their combo ends, as I think I said. Yellow has greater range than the staff itself so it works well to hit between swings, though I found it is true that you can hit between red hits with staff. It just requires better timing. Also, learning to do trick butterflies works nicely, but some people aren't into the whole butterfly thing. _______________ © This comment was edited by Carve on Jan 08 2004 12:38am. |
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Mikel Rider - Student 
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Oh no you misuderstand, I did not mean to imply that Lrod was only red tripple, jsut that Lrod was the first to do the crouching red tripple, so it is his move kinda, not that it was all he did, he was the man. _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
A hell of a lot more  _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
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Carve - Student 
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L-Rod is a lot more than "red triple." ;-) _______________ © |
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ExiLe - Ex-Student 
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i just strafe and it works perfectly for me _______________ Padawan of Silkmonkey!! SILKY ROCKS!!!Proud Member of the {FOA} -a.k.a SeSShoMaRu |
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Mikel Rider - Student
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BTW, crouching red tripple is dangerous for red user, lines up all the targets that trigure damage. I stoped doin that combo, always gets me hurt. There is more to red than the move or Lrod. _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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Mikel Rider - Student 
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I think the staff user Master Windu. _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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Mace Windu - Retired 
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I can help you out on Staff vs Standard saber (red stance user). Would you be the staff user, or the Standard user? _______________ -Mace Windu "When a fool says something foolish, do not answer the fool." -Windu To Vladarion, though I know you are in a better place - it makes me shake to think that you are not awake - when I think about you it makes me smile - i know you have gone into the clouds to head for heavens gates - you have changed my life - in an incredible way - and so I say thank you - may you rest in peace |
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Lancer007 - Student 
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Oh Oke. |
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Wolfwood - Student 
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Nah that gamefaq only describes the moves that are also on the jk3 moves list in game :S not the cool combo moves _______________ ~ Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead ~ |
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Zoro Kakashi - Ex-Student 
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butterfly!, did u forget that? _______________ "When did Noah built the Arc, before the rain, before the rain." |
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Dammerung - Student |
All else fails... jump over and attack from behind. That or you could get close and have him attack, then dodge and then jump ahead to catch him on the rebound. I'm an avid staff user myself, and the only two opponents i dread are dual saberists and red stance users. _______________ "It's over Anakin! This high ground adds +5 to my agility!" "HAX!" |
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Lancer007 - Student
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Here guys I think these guides i found at gamefaq.com might clear some things up a little game faqs guides This comment was edited by Lancer007 on Jan 02 2004 02:23am. |
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Rahn del Sol - Student 
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I can remember in JK2 when I was good enough in Blue stance that I could run in and strike a Red user in between swings and get away with no problem. I'd wear them down until I figured a lunge would finish it, and that's what I'd use. I don't quite have that sort of timing anymore _______________ http://steamcommunity.com/id/citizen059 |
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