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Proposal affecting new comers to the academy
Jan 10 2004 12:34am

WindOfDeath
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WindOfDeath
I have a proposal to the JAC's JAT's and JAK's.
The new people who are coming into the game are , as i am seeing, showing a lack of respect. Im not saying that it is all new comers but some of them just dont know the Academy way. The other day i tried helping someone with some staff saber work. He was butterflying throughout the whole match. I said you might wanna learn some moves other than a butterfly and i think he took it as an insult and gave me an attitude about it. I was just trying to help and i understand how it my comment might have been misunderstood. Now to my proposal. I think that within a month from joining the new students should go through a probationary period where if they show any disrespect more than 2 times ( or whatever the academy leaders feel fit) they will be removed from the academy. I dont know if this rule is in place but i believe that it is the best thing to do for now. With all the new people joining the academy i think it will help the Academy Leaders to pick out the rotten apples. Because in my eyes the academy is a place for friendship and learning. Its a kool place to have fun and socialize with some pretty kool people. :D
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This post was edited by WindOfDeath on Jan 10 2004 12:36am.

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I think its the right thing to do. I think its the right thing to do. [6 votes] [27%]
I dont know..... I dont know..... [3 votes] [14%]
No way. No way. [7 votes] [32%]
Undecided Undecided [1 vote] [5%]
I LOVE PENGUINES! I LOVE PENGUINES! [5 votes] [23%]

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Jan 13 2004 12:27pm

Katan
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 Katan

Its a good idea to an extent.....


One thing I'll point out is, whenever I see anyone on teh server with a bad attitude, I try to straighten it out. It doesnt matter whether he has been here 2 day's, or has account #94 (Just using DB's # as an example :P) I also think it would be silly for us to have to make some sort of report or something saying "Blah78blah had a bad attitude and wasnt nice to everyone" I mean, that's more work than we need... And, what if the guy was having a bad day? Sometimes, I have a bad day, and I dont have the best attitude either (Although, usually I'm pretty good at masking it) Therefore, he should get an official warning, because he isnt too happy about his day? Nah, maybe we should just leave him be until another day....
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Jan 13 2004 11:48am

Mookie
 - Ex-Student
 Mookie

I think the system as it is now works fine. I've been dealing with a lot of newcomers, and most are very respectful and polite. There are always some rotten eggs, but they either shape up or leave.

Jan 13 2004 11:27am

Kueller
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 Kueller

Quote:
But by not reading it u are not exempt from the rules...... most of it is common sense.


YEah, Monty is totally right, when I kill someone in cold blood on the streets and say I didn't read the law that prohibited it, are they gonna just let me go. Think not :P Rules are rules and if they decide not to take the 2 mins reading them it's their decission. They still have to follow.
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Jan 13 2004 11:05am

Odan-Wei Belouve
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 Odan-Wei Belouve

I tend to agree with Mockran on this Wind, I was there too when it happened. Now I see from your post you've been pissed by his 'attitude' but honestly you've been a little pushy with the guy.

And concerning your proposal, I believe in the current system. I also believe submitting ppl to a probatory period is not necessary and would need such an amount of time and ppl that it's completely out of our range IMO.

And I have a question for you my friend: what about JA members that are sometimes disrespectful on the servers ? Some ppl are acting badly toward newcomers.
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Jan 13 2004 04:23am

Mockran
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 Mockran

WindofDeath I was there when you tried to give your "advice" not to be mean or anything but it seemed like you were trying to almost bully him into learning something. Now it really doesn't matter if all he can do is butterfly maybe thats his style, maybe hes new, and maybe he was trying to peeve you off. Just let people do what they want and when they want. All you do is either not duel him or adapt your dueling style and beat the shizz out of him.
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This comment was edited by Mockran on Jan 13 2004 04:24am.

Jan 13 2004 04:13am

Mace Windu
 - Retired
 Mace Windu

Before you want to offer to help you should ask to see if that person wants help. It would make things alot easier and you could avoid such a silly confrontation such as the one you had. :)
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Jan 13 2004 01:02am

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

But by not reading it u are not exempt from the rules...... most of it is common sense.
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Jan 13 2004 12:32am

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

of course, but if someone doesnt want to read it he wont read it. we cant force ppl to do so.
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Jan 13 2004 12:30am

Flash
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 Flash

But you must realize, many newcomers still don't bother to read the rules or the holocron.:(

Jan 13 2004 12:22am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

haha, no, you wont get me into a discussion 'bout that ;)

still, with a decent welcome mail and the Holocron finally integrated into the site those new guys will know the do's and don'ts :)
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Jan 13 2004 12:20am

Ash
 - Eats Babies
 Ash

the points system was like communism. good on paper.......well i cant think of a punch line. you get the drift.
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Jan 13 2004 12:17am

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

....but....but....but....but I liked the point system :D


*runs away*
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Jan 13 2004 12:11am

Ash
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 Ash

your idea was good at heart but im gonna agree with buzz. there are just wayyyyy too many aplicants here to apply a system such as this. we've already learned our lesson from the point system.
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Jan 12 2004 11:40pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Another point is that these things always come in spurts. Several months happen in between occurences. New pricks join thinking its just like any other place. They either get that its not and shape up or they leave on their own or are banned once they realize their behavior isn't appreciated here. Frankly there are too many applicants to really do a probationary period and decide whether which ones should stay and leave. And what if someone isn't around for the first month and a half and turns jerk on their third month here. Just doesn't seem all that feasible or necessary.
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Jan 10 2004 02:56am

Furi0us
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 Furi0us

Laern ot splel JACEN :P
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Jan 10 2004 01:39am

JAcen LW Solo
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 JAcen LW Solo

Only JACs are allowed to ban ppl from the academy, JAT+ can ban from the seervers and JAK+ can kick from the servers. We have our own threads on teh JAK and JAT forums where we keep track of toublemakers. The JAK+ reposrt troublemakers in there, JACs collect that info and give the official warnings/bans.
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Jan 10 2004 01:01am

WindOfDeath
 - Student
 WindOfDeath

Yeah i wasn't sure about that. But anyway its a good way to let everyone know that itsa rule that is still in place. Annd just one question Jacen. Sorry if i sound rude by this comment but is it being enforced by the JAK's+?
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Jan 10 2004 12:41am

JAcen LW Solo
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 JAcen LW Solo

Ermm, Wind it already works like that, the students get warned both personaly and with a permanent comment on their profiles viewable only by JAK+, on the 2nd warning they get banned.
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Jan 10 2004 12:39am

Lithaerien
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 Lithaerien

I agree with him.
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