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Battlin' Billy - Student  |
I'm not sure how comfortable everyone is with talking about this subject. So, before I post any opinions, is everyone cool with discussing this? It's quite an issue here in the US right now. In the past, we've been able to discuss controvertial subjects without it getting out of hand. So, does anyone mind discussing this? _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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and you put spaces in between those words because: a) The site won't let you post a sentence with Jacen and the words is right in one sentence b) You didn't notice it C) No inspiration for c _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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SedNox - Student 
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jacen is r i g h t ! ! ! _______________ -Evil Clown- "We interrupt this program to increase dramatic tension." Echuu's 1200th comment, D@RtH N00B's 10850th comment, Redeye's 100th and 150th comment. |
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VirusD - Student 
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i dont care about it really 2. but i still think marrege should be between women and a man. IF some men claim that they love each other then who cares live but dont get merried.  _______________ '** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**' '**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**" '**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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well, I don't think babies/children w/e should hold a couple back of marrying. if my girlfriend wouldn't be able to conceive children, I'd still marry her  Such a thing is about love, and caring. Not about being able to have babies, or not to have babies. I do still agree with what Jacen said a few posts earlier. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
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Quote: interesting view.. so your saying is a couple is unable to concieve a baby. they shouldn't marry.. I said if it CAN'T not if it DOESN'T  If you get what I mean. What if the woman/man can't? |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Quote: interesting view.. so your saying is a couple is unable to concieve a baby. they shouldn't marry.. I said if it CAN'T not if it DOESN'T If you get what I mean. _______________ Website |
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Katan - Student 
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I very much so agree with what Aratan said, trying to have a book determine YOUR life is fine, but dont use it to determine other's paths, when they dont use that book. I'm fine with same sex marrige's, its all about love, if two guys love each other, hell, get married, I dont give a 5h!7. Its THEIR choice to make not ours. I also agree with what Fizz said, don't make them married in the same sense as regular marriges within the law. Basically, if they leave me out of it, I'm fine with it _______________ |
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Axion - Student 
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yea good point.. they obvioulsy wouldn't be happy.. _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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As far as the adoption go, I totally agree with Jacen. This kid will get ridiculed, bullied, among others. Not to mention there are teachers out there who can't stand this kind of thing. Imagine the kid's life. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
I couldn't care less whether homosexual people marry or not. That's their case, if they want to, sure, if they don't, fine with me again. I care as little about their marriages as I do when it comes to random hetero people's marriage. When it comes to adoption, then I'm a bit sceptical, though. Not because I doubt they'd make fine parents or anything like that. Only because I don't think the child will enjoy going to school when he/she has two dads. EDIT: As for the religious stuff.... please, guys, do you want a book to be in charge of other people's lives? Sure, if you want the Bible to guide your life, feel free to do so. But don't let it guide other's life. Especially not if they don't even follow same religion. This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Mar 06 2004 01:18pm. |
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Axion - Student 
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Quote: My View (outside of Christianity): As I always say, "If it can't produce kids - its wrong." err gay couples can adopt kids.. don't forget that.. _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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Well, I'm not forward it, but I'm also not against it. Sure, sometimes, when I see two guys kissing on the street, I just turn away. But I'm not against it at all. If you love eachother, then you love eachother. Can't help that, now can you? Sure, it's weird, and some may find it disgusting, but think about it... You're dealing with people's lives here. Not just some ordinary tool which needs fixing. Sure, there are lots of gay jokes and stuff like that, and I laugh when I hear them, but I also know that these guys don't behave like those jokes at all. I even got some friends who are gay, and if you didn't know it, you wouldn't see it. Those people have a right to get married, if they want to, and I won't stand against it. _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg){kind=small}
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The bible says to kill everybody who dont beleave in God like christs do. Do that give you the right to kill other ppl? There are great wars becouse "the bible says..." or "the coran says ...". I dont think it's good to argument with bible laws. That would be as right as it was in the middle age where they burned hexes becouse somebody says they have relations with the devil. My oppinion is that gays or lesbians just were born in the wrong body. You cant punish them for their unlucky. greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Dicemaster - Student 
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/me thinks its f'd up that the netherlands let gay men get married, but they all hate guns, and hunting... in my opionion, its morally wrong. I don't believe its right in anyway, and i don't believe it should be legal. However, i don't have a problem with homosexual people, so if someones gay i don't hate them, i think the action is wrong, not the people -Dice _______________ Dicemaster |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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a state encourages people to have kids, because thats what keeps a state/country w/e alive. marrige is the subject to that. u get some lower taxes and other benefits. that does not apply to same sex marriage. if its for religious marriage ceremonial, yes, im all for it. but the official law-wise same sex marriage, no. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Zoro Kakashi - Ex-Student 
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disagree with the idea of such arrangement greatly _______________ "When did Noah built the Arc, before the rain, before the rain." |
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VIPER or BlaCk - Student |
I personally do not agree with same sex marriages, because I am a devoted catholic, and cant stand to watch two guys, or girls for that matter kiss and get all touchy feely. But on the other hand, they do have a right to get married, after all.... we live in AMERICA dont we?? well most of us! _______________ Some say VIPER is just a LEGEND............but my friend........he is a REALITY |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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I don't mind conversation on it so long as no flames go out. I think that marriage is meant for two people who love each other enough to spend the rest of their lives together, whether they are of the same gender or not. The government has no right to add a discriminatory clause to the constitution. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Lian Del Rey - Student 
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Gay marriage is extremely annoying because it's ALL they talk about on the news now. _______________ slorp |
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Flash - Student 
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Quote: My View (outside of Christianity): As I always say, "If it can't produce kids - its wrong." So, if there's a woman that's unable to have children and wants to marry a man, you think it's wrong? |
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Acey Spadey - Student 
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here is another thought for you all.. Catholicism isn't the only religion.... what about other views and stuff?? _______________ .Lag Bro to Xanatos. Adopted Twin to Bubu. Big-Brother to SmilyKrazy ---- JATSRAD Guru, JASE Member, JA SP Mod Staff ---- The Order of the Stick -- Big thanks to Mango for my avatar -- Quote: Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun.
Quote: (Random hella old quote) <Fizz of Belouve> .. in sovjet russia, cereals spit at YOU!
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Acey Spadey - Student 
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Quote: My View (as a Christian): Bible says its wrong - good enough for me. My View (outside of Christianity): As I always say, "If it can't produce kids - its wrong." interesting view.. so your saying is a couple is unable to concieve a baby. they shouldn't marry.. the issue here isn't about making babies or having children.. This is about a couple getting together for the rest of their lives. I have nothing against a couple of the same sex getting together for the rest of their lives. and yes I'm Catholic and really open minded, it takes quite a lot to offend me.. just a thought.. what is the exact phrase in the bible that says it is wrong.. _______________ .Lag Bro to Xanatos. Adopted Twin to Bubu. Big-Brother to SmilyKrazy ---- JATSRAD Guru, JASE Member, JA SP Mod Staff ---- The Order of the Stick -- Big thanks to Mango for my avatar -- Quote: Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun.
Quote: (Random hella old quote) <Fizz of Belouve> .. in sovjet russia, cereals spit at YOU!
Quote: whats the point of growing up, if your not allowed to act childish!
Padawan - Henkes
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Ashyr - Student 
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OK, Here is my opinion, and don't eat me for this: I am a Christian. The Bible does say it is immoral and wrong. In fact, not only is is sinning against God, but sinning against your own body. I believe the only reason gays are attracted to each other, is demonic influence. They may say: 'We love each other!', but it is truly a sin as much as adultry, prostitution, and sex before marrage. Though, I cannot stop people from doing so, just like I cannot stop people from doing any other sin. They have free will to do whatever they want, but in the end they will face their consiquence for it. So, our Government can make it legal, but if they choose to allow this perversion to go on, then that it they're dilema. I am not of voting age, so I can't really do anything about it. Thank You for listening to my opinion. That is all. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Stimpski - Student 
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Here is my view on gay marriages: They are perfectly fine with me. Sure, my Catholic side is screaming at me "ITS AGAINST THE BIBLE", but my Atheist side (i have dual personalities when it comes to religion, for some strange reason) says "If they want to get married, let them." Religion and politics mix as about as well as oil and water mix. They just don't. Leave the religion out of it. EDIT: I agree with JJ. Marriage is for 2 people who are in love with each other, and are ready to commit their lives to each other. If that means that it is 2 men or 2 women, so be it. _______________ Stimpski (formerly known as DeathScythe many, many moons ago.) JA Forum ID - 3988 <insert generic &/OR witty tagline here> This comment was edited by Stimpski on Mar 05 2004 11:29pm. |
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Halendor - Ex-Student 
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Yeah but that's not as legal as the rest of the lot The rules on euthanasy are very strict, but that's not the topic here |
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