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Mar 05 2004 07:04pm

Battlin' Billy
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Battlin' Billy
I'm not sure how comfortable everyone is with talking about this subject. So, before I post any opinions, is everyone cool with discussing this? It's quite an issue here in the US right now.

In the past, we've been able to discuss controvertial subjects without it getting out of hand.

So, does anyone mind discussing this?

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Mar 06 2004 02:10am

Lian Del Rey
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Gay marriage is extremely annoying because it's ALL they talk about on the news now.
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Mar 06 2004 01:15am

Flash
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 Flash

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My View (outside of Christianity):
As I always say, "If it can't produce kids - its wrong."


So, if there's a woman that's unable to have children and wants to marry a man, you think it's wrong?

Mar 06 2004 12:48am

Acey Spadey
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 Acey Spadey

here is another thought for you all..

Catholicism isn't the only religion.... what about other views and stuff??
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Mar 06 2004 12:43am

Acey Spadey
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Quote:
My View (as a Christian):
Bible says its wrong - good enough for me.

My View (outside of Christianity):
As I always say, "If it can't produce kids - its wrong."


interesting view.. so your saying is a couple is unable to concieve a baby. they shouldn't marry..

the issue here isn't about making babies or having children.. This is about a couple getting together for the rest of their lives. I have nothing against a couple of the same sex getting together for the rest of their lives.

and yes I'm Catholic and really open minded, it takes quite a lot to offend me..

just a thought.. what is the exact phrase in the bible that says it is wrong..
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Mar 06 2004 12:42am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

OK, Here is my opinion, and don't eat me for this:

I am a Christian. The Bible does say it is immoral and wrong. In fact, not only is is sinning against God, but sinning against your own body.

I believe the only reason gays are attracted to each other, is demonic influence. They may say: 'We love each other!', but it is truly a sin as much as adultry, prostitution, and sex before marrage.

Though, I cannot stop people from doing so, just like I cannot stop people from doing any other sin. They have free will to do whatever they want, but in the end they will face their consiquence for it. So, our Government can make it legal, but if they choose to allow this perversion to go on, then that it they're dilema. I am not of voting age, so I can't really do anything about it.

Thank You for listening to my opinion. That is all.
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Mar 05 2004 11:28pm

Stimpski
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 Stimpski

Here is my view on gay marriages:

They are perfectly fine with me. Sure, my Catholic side is screaming at me "ITS AGAINST THE BIBLE", but my Atheist side (i have dual personalities when it comes to religion, for some strange reason) says "If they want to get married, let them." Religion and politics mix as about as well as oil and water mix. They just don't. Leave the religion out of it.

EDIT: I agree with JJ. Marriage is for 2 people who are in love with each other, and are ready to commit their lives to each other. If that means that it is 2 men or 2 women, so be it.
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Mar 05 2004 10:36pm

Halendor
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 Halendor

Yeah but that's not as legal as the rest of the lot :P The rules on euthanasy are very strict, but that's not the topic here ;)

Mar 05 2004 10:28pm

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hearhear

you forgot euthanasy
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Mar 05 2004 10:28pm

Jacen Aratan
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Indeed, Hal..... generally, I think it can be summed up to religion half the time. And since 90% here are atheist..... well, you figure it out.

Mar 05 2004 09:55pm

Halendor
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 Halendor

Damn, I wish I were religious, then I would have an answer for everything :) Gay marriage is legal here in the Netherlands, as is using softdrugs, abortion and prostitution.

Personally, I think marriage is just a weird thing, but maybe I'm too young to understand ;) I guess some people need something to confirm their love and remind them of it later on in their relationship. I think this gift slash pain should be open to everybody.

I guess it's easier for people in Holland to accept these kind of things because were are not as religous as the people in the USA are. Or at least, that is what I gather from you guys here ("My religion forbids it";) and American politicians saying it has something to do with God.

I don't know if people realize it, but saying "If it can't have babies - it's wrong" doesn't make any sense. It is just not a valid argument in this discussion. But I guess it all adds up to a 'God created this world' vs. 'There is no God' argument, which is unsolvable unless either side accepts the others truth and tries to think from there.

So, I'm going to try that. I have no huge bible knowledge, but if God created everybody, then he must have created gay people as well. Probably for a reason. Have people who have feelings for the same sex dropped in from hell?

Mar 05 2004 09:51pm

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

We're quite open-minded about this issue in the netherlands. I believe everyone is equal and has the same rights, including marriage.
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Mar 05 2004 09:47pm

Axion
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 Axion

i dont mind talkin about it.. they are people too just because some people mite think their phr00ts and should stay away from them but.. some are cool.. so other ppl shouldn't get all judgemental about them.. im not religious so i dont have anything against this.
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Mar 05 2004 09:39pm

Aron
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 Aron

It's fine with me if you discuss this.

Because of my religion, I am against this, but that is all I want to say about it :)

By the way: I saw a T-shirt that said "I only support gay marriage...... If both chicks are hot" :P

Anyways, feel free to discuss this. Just keep it nice.

Mar 05 2004 09:35pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

HAHAH!!!!!!!!
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Mar 05 2004 09:27pm

Bubu
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 Bubu

What JJ said. It's about love.

I don't see why anyone has to meddle in other people's affairs anyway. If someone wants to marry a monkey, how is it your business?
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Mar 05 2004 09:06pm

SedNox
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 SedNox

\|/ DAMN RIGHT!
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Mar 05 2004 09:04pm

 
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JamesF1 - not everybody is Christian. Marriage isn't about politics, and not every couple in the world have kids. Marriage is about love. I suppose women who, for whatever reason, can't have kids aren't allowed to get married either?

Marriage is about love, and if two people of the same gender are in love, there should be nothing to stop them. All this crap is nothing but homophobic bullshit. All this does is encourage gay people to be ashamed of their sexual preferences.

Mar 05 2004 08:57pm

SedNox
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 SedNox

i dont care if somebody is gay or lesbian or whatever!! if people like it then fine, i dont care! i dont see why people make a problem out of it!
if they wanna marrie then let them! why do you care!
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Mar 05 2004 08:46pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

My View (as a Christian):
Bible says its wrong - good enough for me.

My View (outside of Christianity):
As I always say, "If it can't produce kids - its wrong."
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Mar 05 2004 08:42pm

Sared
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 Sared

Absoloutley. I believe that as long as nobody gets flamed or starts flaming, this should be an approachable topic for discussion. :)
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Mar 05 2004 08:36pm

Flash
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 Flash

I don't mind discussing it, as long as everyone else acts maturely.

Mar 05 2004 08:21pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

CMAD!!!:mad:

but still...LMFAO!!! :P:D
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Mar 05 2004 08:20pm

_cmad_
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 _cmad_

Mommy, Daddy, where do babies come from?

:P :D
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Mar 05 2004 07:55pm

DarkSider
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 DarkSider

I personally don't have a problem with discussing it here. Concerning our younger members I'm not sure what your problem is Cuzza.
It's not that we are talking about explicit sexual contents. Its more about how the state and public opinion react to the need of gay couples to be treated just like "normal" couples
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Mar 05 2004 07:47pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

we do have youngans in the JA...
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