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An email from La Magra
Apr 07 2004 01:38pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
doobie
The recently departed La Magra asked the Council to post this email from him, so here it is:

"hey, I don't know where to start but as some of you might know allready I've recently been banned from the JA. I am taking full responsibility for the ban, because I believe that the council took the right decision. I'd like to apologize to the ppl I've hurt with my actions. I'd never ment to hurt any of you. But the truth is that I did hurt some of you and I deserve to be punished so I am accepting this ban without further fight. I'd also like to say, alltho it is unlikely, but if the council should decide to lift my ban, I'll probably never return to the JA. The JA has been a part of my life for more than a year and a half and I loved every moment here. But I won't return for one reason. Missing the JA is a constant reminder of what I've done wrong, it will remind me of whats wrong with my personality and for those that I've and other, I promise that I'll never let it get this far ever again. I don't blame anyone for looking at me differently or being disgusted with me cause quite frankly I am disgusted with myself at the moment. I've hurt some ppl that I care very much about and thats absolutly untolarable. I also like to mention that from this moment I won't message any JA member ever again, unless they make it clear to me that they still want to keep in contact with me (which I am hoping that few of the good friends I made here will do, and that they will forgive me for what I've done). Thats all I wanted to say.

For whats its worth, I truly am sorry about my actions.
LaMagra"
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Mar 30 2004 05:02pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

Aron, please don't take this personal, but do you even read my posts before you answer them?

Did I even once say I want him back in?
NO.
I said: If the JAC's would ask my opinion...

WOULD is the point here, which they obviously won't. I know I am in no position to say 'bring him back in' since I have no idea what transpired with him.

And did I say the ban wasn't justified?
didn't I say: "but I trust the JAC's judgement on this matter"??


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Mar 30 2004 04:35pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

lol, i know they dont, and if the ban was justified, so be it.
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Mar 30 2004 04:34pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

We have 5 Council members, each VERY trustworthy.

If you think they are leaking information to students who shouldn't know about it, feel free to.

... they don't.

Besides that, IF a student would truly know everything, he would agree with this decision; not fight it.

This comment was edited by Aron on Mar 30 2004 04:35pm.

Mar 30 2004 04:29pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

dnt be so sure i dont know EVERYTHING aron

edit: but no, i dont, but that doesn't mean students can't make any sorts of comments. some student might know what has happened...and knows ALL the details. so u can't go around saying students dont know everything when they just might;)
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This comment was edited by CuZzA on Mar 30 2004 04:31pm.

Mar 30 2004 04:24pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

Don't come with stuff like "i would bring him back in, lift his ban" if you don't know every detail.

Harsh as it may sound, students are NOT in the position to make remarks like that if they don't know all the details.

No one here likes banning people, no matter who or what.
Because some matters are just too sensitive to give out all the details, you will just have to believe the Council on their word.

The ban WAS justified. I can understand that a lot of people never saw any of this, because they still see the "old Magra", but please keep in mind that you just don't know everything, and won't get to know it either.

As I said, no one likes to ban people.

This thread is here because Magra wanted to let you know how he felt about the things he did, not as a discussion on if the ban was justified or not.

Magra made a mistake, and he has been banned for it. Permanently. If he is truly sorry, it is a good thing, but it still means he has to pay the price for it.

This comment was edited by Aron on Mar 30 2004 04:32pm.

Mar 30 2004 03:59pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

hey this shocks me too man

but I trust the JAC's judgement on this matter.
And I don't think he got banned over night here, I'm sure he had some remarks to stop it first.

It's a sad day when a Trainer needs to get banned:(
Let's hope we never have to do that again.

And sure, if the JAC would ask my opinion, I'd say 'Bring him back in', but like he said himself, he probably wouldn't return here.
He is sorry, which is obvious in his mail, but he doesn't want to return. How can he return? He will just be watched angrily by some, and how can he undergo such a treatment? I agree with him, actually. If I would've been banned and lifted, and if I've been banned for a very serious reason, I'd probably not return.
Since I would have lost people's respect, which is never pleasant to anyone.
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Mar 30 2004 03:57pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

done it before? i was never told about that...but still, i'm pretty annoyed to see him go
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Mar 30 2004 03:52pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Cuzza, it is not a one time event. He has done it before, and trust me, it was well deserved, considering what was done (and since I'm very fond of some of the people he harassed, I cannot say I'm sorry to see him go).

Just my 0.25 DKR.

Mar 30 2004 03:46pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

Yes, i agree, this DOES shock me, but even more so that loafs bans. As u could see, loaf was a great guy until he went downhill, we knew something was wrong and we knew he was gonna get banned, but this? this is toally different. I really dont know why he got banned (well i do, thanks to doobie) but i really never knew anything was wrong

man, if i was a part of the JAC, i'd definitly lift ur ban, because i know what ur like as an alround guy. Even if u did do something wrong, however bad it was (unless really serious) i think a ban was unneccassry. I shouldn't say this, but if we all did one thing wrong, then we'd all be banned. Sry JA, i'm just stickin' up for my mate, like you guys would do.

Viva la Magra :)


ps: what i mean is that a ban was...kinda wrong. he's alot more good than bad, and if it was bad, then maybe a rank deduction?

my $0.02

-Cuz
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This comment was edited by CuZzA on Mar 30 2004 03:48pm.

Mar 30 2004 03:29am

SaberWeildinKow
 - Student
 SaberWeildinKow

I know it's not my place to post here but...dang...
...

Mar 29 2004 05:48pm

JamesF1
 - Student
 JamesF1

Maggy, if you're reading this, hope you got my email. I would hate to lose contact with you!
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Mar 29 2004 11:01am

Odan-Wei Belouve
 - Student
 Odan-Wei Belouve

Well, I just found this thread now, and I wish to add my word to it.
To Maggy, I'm sorry all this happened and I'm glad you apologized about it. This whole thing made me uncomfortable with you but I'll try to keep in touch, as I remind the good times we had.
To the persons I've being asking more details about that, I apologize for my insistance but I've been a good friend of LaMagra so far and I needed to get more info in order to have an objective insight.

I never meant to question the JACs decision. I, on a personal ground, needed to know what was going on. You can email or pm me if you want to discuss about that.

:alliance:
Odan-Wei
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Mar 29 2004 06:58am

Smilykrazy
 - Retired
 Smilykrazy

Hmmm not sure if magra can read this but if you can, thanks for this email. We had a lot of great times. Good luck in RL my friend. :(
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Mar 29 2004 05:35am

3th
 - Retired
 3th

gl with life Mags
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Mar 28 2004 08:34pm

Newtius Slasher
 - Ex-Student
 Newtius Slasher

whoa sexual harrasment, o_O

Mar 28 2004 08:05pm

Battlin' Billy
 - Student
 Battlin' Billy

I'm just gonna say:

Sorry that you had to go LaMagra.:( Good luck in RLâ„¢.

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Mar 28 2004 05:09pm

Mookie
 - Ex-Student
 Mookie

I don't think we need anymore information, and that things best be kept private considering the nature of this ban. I think Doobie was "generous" if such can be called, and that right now the only thing we have to go on is that the ban is pretty justified, and I for one believe the apology is sincere. As LaMagra said, even if the ban is lifted he doesn't feel like returning, so in a way this is his official goodbye. I do wish him the best. :)

Mar 28 2004 03:30pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

sexual harassment? :o omg that sucks
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Mar 28 2004 02:27pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

damn it, he's gone?

There goes a great guy :s

I don't know what happened, so I'm not going to post my thoughts about this.

But, as I read in Doobie's post a bit below, sexual harassment?
dang... :s
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I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion

Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here.


Mar 28 2004 02:18pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

I better not post my comments.
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Mar 28 2004 02:02pm

Thomasooo
 - Student
 Thomasooo

Too bad it had to come to this. :( I think LaMagra was a good guy, andthe fact that he's apologizing for his actions, verifies my opinion. :alliance:

LaMagra, if you're reading this, I wish you good luck in the future, and you've done right by apologizing.
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Mar 28 2004 12:28pm

Axion
 - Student
 Axion

man i didn't even kno about this.. what a shock.. well hes taking it like a man and apologizing.. good luck in life Maggy :o
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Mar 28 2004 12:08pm

SS/ph00d
 - Student
 SS/ph00d

Gonna miss you LM :(
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Mar 28 2004 12:02pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

the bare minimum i can tell you is that it involves sexual harassment. Anymore than that, you really dont' need to know
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-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me


This comment was edited by doobie on Mar 28 2004 12:02pm.

Mar 28 2004 11:50am

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

I'm shocked and sorry to see you go La Magra :(

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