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Ideas for academy map v4
Nov 22 2024 03:31pm

GoDofDeATh
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GoDofDeATh
For v4 i think we should put a higher water lvl so that u can swim :D and put back the lost temple and put some secret passage that connects rooms...like for exemple...Pillar <--> Pool...Matrix <--> Glass...etc that would rock dont ya think ?
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Oct 03 2003 04:42am

Mace Windu
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 Mace Windu

Wow, very old... LOL
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Oct 03 2003 02:48am

Darth ICE
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 Darth ICE

wow... now thats an old thread :D
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Oct 03 2003 01:11am

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

*bump*

hehehe
todays bumping spree is mad aagain ;)
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Feb 20 2003 01:08pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

I like the idea of putting Kal's map on the NL server and when someone else comes along with a cool map throw that on there. Then just rotate maps as the Council sees fit. I think that would be great to give exposure to some of the students maps.
Now that I've been with the JA for a little while (very little while), I see DC's map as "home". When he comes out with a new one, it's like remodeling the house or something. Of course, the final decision for which map is the "official map" of the JA is up to the Council.
I hope my comments don't add fuel to the fire and I want DC and Kal to /amkiss and /ammakeup! :D

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Feb 20 2003 12:49pm

SilkMonkey
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 SilkMonkey

They are both great maps so either way everyone wins. Be interesting to see DC's new map.
I'm also looking forward to Kal's new map, that thing rocks.
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Feb 20 2003 05:39am

Psycho
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 Psycho

I like DCs map better, but instead of throwing aways Kals map, we can use it on ONE of the servers, so it dont starts a war between DCs and Kals fans about the maps...
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Feb 20 2003 04:37am

Lord Exar Kun
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 Lord Exar Kun

just one idea: a hydroball room would be nice
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Feb 20 2003 01:15am

Damon C. Belouve
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 Damon C. Belouve

I am sad. :sad:

I am sad at the possibility that something at could only benefit the Academy (that being map development discussion) could turn into a mud slinging contest.

DC. Your map is da bomb! It is great and has received the level of being the official map for the largest (at least that I know of) JK2 community on the web. Clearly you are a Master Map designer. You have nothing to prove to anyone.

Kal. You are a budding developer and I love your map design. I think it is worthy of consideration as one of the maps for JA. You too do not need to feel that you map needs defending. You are offering it to JA to try and taking suggesting for improvement. You too have nothing to prove.

I just do not want to see one of you great guys upset in anyway over this issue. DC, Kal could really use your help examining some aspects of his map. If you have time, that would be great.

I am proud to be a part of a community with so much talent. But as family we sometimes communicate poorly with each other. Please do not let this distract you, b/c in the end the Academy is the one that suffers.

Talk to you later,

D.C. :cool:


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Feb 19 2003 11:09pm

Kalheka
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 Kalheka

Sorry DJ, and DC.

I was offended DC, by the remark that your map is far more detailed and advanced. That sentence is picking at my map, and attacking my skill. I merely responded by pointing out my goals with my map and my intentions in making the map, and offering it to the Jedi Academy.

My remarks weren't intended as "starting something" with you, but I felt like you were starting something with me. My response was only meant to smooth things, not escalate them.

I'm further offended by your statement that you think I have some kind of complex. I didn't attack you personally, even if you didn't like my remarks. You just did to me though. And also:

"One last thing, please don't try to attack V3 saying this and that and what it was meant to be, cause I'd love to go "there" and discuss YOUR map." I can only interpret that as a threat, which I don't take kindly to at all.

The only reason I brought up v3 in my post was to try to point out our common goal, making better maps for the academy.

You don't recall speaking with me, but I remember speaking with you. I said great map, and offered my suggestions about improvements, which was responded to with a smart-assed remark. I also have tried to ask you a few questions about improving my work, on the game servers, which were completely ignored.

I have said my peace now, and have apologized as best I know how for what has happened. If you want to take this up further, my email and messenger contact info is in my profile, I will be glad to try to work out any problem you have with me.
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This comment was edited by Kalheka on Feb 19 2003 11:39pm.

Feb 19 2003 09:48pm

Zero Akaine
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 Zero Akaine

ok GUys i know you have alot of idead on what you want in the map but you must remember its DC's map not ours. we are luck that he is willing to take the time to update and make new things for it... Now for you out there that think your map is more advanced the DC's... your roung.. Every maper is beter at one aspect of maping...for instence i am grate at desining a map... puting it to gether as in bilding it is where i lack...for Dc it seams that he is good a bilding and texteing and coming up with good ideas...so please dont star puting other work down... inthe end only you will suffer.
As for V4 of the map. i think DC should add what he wants to it... not be tould what to or asked to add this or that.

Zero
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Feb 19 2003 09:33pm

Dicemaster
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 Dicemaster

ok
my 2cents
1) keep DC's map on KS and KS classes server
2) put Kal's map on the NL server
3) DC put underground passegways in your map...like connect the matrix to the pillar room with an underground tunnel network....small and barly lit to give it a dark old castle feel!!!!

4) also, put a pool in somewhere...that would be so cool. Maybe even one behinds one of the broken doors or underground or something like that
5) make it night outside. or better yet somehow make it so that every 3-5 minutes is like a "day" making it get brighter and darker and so on
my 2cents
-Dice
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Feb 19 2003 09:11pm

GoDofDeATh
 - Ex-Student
 GoDofDeATh

This topic i started is so we can hear ideas for v4 of jedi acadmy map...not to compare kal's map and Dom's map....just keep the ideas comin in...and if kal and dc want to continue....email themselves or open another topic...:o
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Feb 19 2003 08:39pm

Da_Man
 - Ex-Student
 Da_Man

I vote for secrets and the pool Idea. that would make me a :D Boy

Feb 19 2003 08:24pm

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

Yeesh DC and Khal take a breather. No ones stepping on anyone else's toes here making maps for the JA. If you want to compre notes or help each other out constructively feel free to do so.

If you're just going to sit back and bash each others maps this potentially helpful thread will get closed.
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Feb 19 2003 07:50pm

=Derelict-Crusader=
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 =Derelict-Crusader=

RE: Kalheka

First off, your post comes off very hostile for some reason, I'm not sure where you're getting these vibes from.

Second: "I put the needs of the Academy ahead of my own desires for the map."

AND

"Let's please not lose sight of the fact that it's the needs of the Jedi Academy that we are trying to meet here."

^^^Totally uncalled for! Your implication that I don't care what people want or need is way off base here. This is so far from the truth that it's not even funny, ask anyone that's been around for a long time and they'll tell you that I ask for people's input and feedback all the time in order to improve the JA with each build. I'm not even gonna get into the beta version and how many there were prior to release.

And another thing, what's with this "we're not in competition here" or "you're a better mapper" etc etc? I think you have some personal complex here! I don't recall ever directly talking to you or in forum threads. And if you're refering to my previous post in THIS thread then let me tell you that it was a general reply to people's concerns. Just look at the original post, it's obvious that the person that started this thread has not even read the README file included with V3,... I was explaining the frame rate issue to these guys, which is still being missed... and that is the CUSTOM MODELS play a HUGE part in frame rate loss; design is not entirely at fault here.


One last thing, please don't try to attack V3 saying this and that and what it was meant to be, cause I'd love to go "there" and discuss YOUR map.

-DC
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Feb 19 2003 07:00pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

No luck Kal.:(
I tried sifting through some other settings but didn't find anything that would affect it. I'll try d/ling it again.
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Feb 19 2003 06:54pm

Icco
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 Icco

we definatly need secrets!!!
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Feb 19 2003 06:51pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

I'm pretty sure it was set for FFA. I'll try it again! Thx!

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Feb 19 2003 06:38pm

Kalheka
 - Student
 Kalheka

It should be showing up. Are you setting up for ffa? That could be the problem. It's Advent - The JATC on the list
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Feb 19 2003 06:36pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

How about making the NL server the one for maps from Academy students. I would think there's more than a few mappers here. That way everyone can have a chance to show off their work. I plan on making a map in the future and I wouldn't mind having it on display here. Just my 2¢ :D

Kal:
Your map doesn't show up in the list in my game. I unzipped it into the \base folder and I'm updated to 1.04. Am I missing something? :(

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Feb 19 2003 06:17pm

Kalheka
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 Kalheka

I really appreciate the support guys. Let's keep in mind that this isn't a competition.

I set out to make Advent because I saw a need for variety and improvement in the maps at the JA, and I'm not the only one. I never set out to compete with you, Dom. I never said I'm a better mapper than you.

Your JA map does have a fancier design to it. It's not more advanced. If it was more advanced it would be fancy, and faster.

It's good work and I have complimented you more than once on it's design. I chose to use a simpler design in order to make a map that functioned well on as many machines as I could. To put it simply, I put the needs of the Academy ahead of my own desires for the map.

Wasn't better framerates the major point of JA 3?

Let's please not lose sight of the fact that it's the needs of the Jedi Academy that we are trying to meet here. Your a good mapper and a credit to the JA, Dom. I don't want to take away anything from you for that, I just wanna make a contribution too.
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This comment was edited by Kalheka on Feb 19 2003 06:21pm.

Feb 19 2003 02:27am

Bubu
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 Bubu

hmmm... perhaps.. still, Kal's map!! hehe

hip, hip, hooray,
hip, hip, hooray,
hip, hip, HOORAY!!!
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Feb 18 2003 11:40pm

=Derelict-Crusader=
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 =Derelict-Crusader=

1. Run the current version by yourself on your server, check frames.

2. Go into a full server or near full and check your frames.

3. IF you don't see my point still, then I'll just add that the architecture of the Jedi Academy is far more detailed / advanced. More complex use of brush work in order to provide a sense of believability of the surroundings. I agree, 8 sided rooms are very easy on the frames but it does lack the atmosphere.

Btw, the MAIN thing that is killin' your frames are all the custom models on screen. Refer back to 1 and 2.

-DC
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Feb 18 2003 02:21pm

Damon C. Belouve
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 Damon C. Belouve

That is the thing. Kal's map runs better for me when he hosts on his pc, than the currnent JA one on the server. I would love to see Kal's tested on one of the JA servers to put all speculation to death.

Three cheers for Kal....
hip, hip, hooray,
hip, hip, hooray,
hip, hip....

How come I'm the only one cheering?

Later,

D.C. :cool:
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Feb 18 2003 02:08pm

SilkMonkey
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 SilkMonkey

i dunno. is any server using kal's map?

seems faster v bots and all

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