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Apr 19 2004 05:42pm

Gradius
 - ex-Student
Gradius
Hey guys I was just reading Exar's goodbye speech and I noticed that aside from being stripped of his LK position, he doesn't like the way the Academy has turned out. I was just curious, how different is it now then from when Exar had first joined? How bad has it really gotten, if at all?
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Apr 25 2004 04:58pm

Thomasooo
 - Student
 Thomasooo

Agreed, Aratan! The summer vacation 2003 was splendid! Playing on advent2 really rocked. :) I remember how happy I felt when I saw it load. :D Cheers to "the old days"! :P
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Apr 25 2004 09:13am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

I loved the old days on Advent2, during the summer holiday (I know that's not REALLY old, but it's still old days for me). I love JK2, that's why, I think. I dislike JK3... it doesn't have the right feel...

Apr 25 2004 08:32am

Master Lew
 - Student
 Master Lew

Life is what you make it. If you want it to be fun it will be fun. If you don’t, it won’t. A lot of you complain about how things have changed for the worst. That is just your perception. I think the gaming has improved in JK:JA. There are a lot more things you can learn and do with the game. Life goes on and things change. You can embrace change and have fun or escape to the past and miss all the new experiences of the here and now. The choice is yours to make. I for one chose to have fun with the game and where the future leads me and this Academy. You are never to old to enjoy life or this game.:D
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Apr 25 2004 05:28am

Anakin Skywalker
 - Ex-Student
 Anakin Skywalker

When this place shuts down, alot and i mean ALOT of poeple are going to be really sad! I can speak by myself, but im positive that alot of ppl in here will be aswell. This is the best place ever to play online games, we talk, we have fun, we discuss important things of our lifes etc etc, but we have a real life, and nothing can take it from our minds, but this Academy will be forever held on our hearts and always reminded of the coolest place to play some Jedi Knight and have a laugh with friends, in our lifes, doesnt mather how old we get, we will always remind the Academy. Thats a fact!

New@JKA :alliance:
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I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too! They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM! One day I will be the strongest Jedi ever, I will even know how to bring poeple back from death.

This comment was edited by Anakin Skywalker on Apr 25 2004 05:29am.

Apr 24 2004 07:59pm

Nitram
 - Ex-Student
 Nitram

TJA of JK2 and TJA of JA are very different...

It's hard 2 just say simpel why it's hard, but i think some reasons are...

the map (they are both gr8, but the map in JK2 was more up and personal, much more contact with every1).

the game (yes, even the game itself can change a clan/community etc.)

and most important... the members (i'm not saying the members of the academy in JK2 were nicer or something, but a lot of new people are here and a lot of oldie's have left, so yes there is a difference)
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Apr 24 2004 03:25am

Plo Koon
 - Student
 Plo Koon

yes me and eclipse like joined in the same month or something hes 594 and im 587-when we look back on good memories we should think about how happy we where then try to be happy now
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Apr 24 2004 05:11am.

Apr 24 2004 02:33am

xAnAtOs
 - Student

Amen Ash.

But i'll say this, ja just didn't even feel like even half the game jk2 ever was.
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This comment was edited by xAnAtOs on Apr 25 2004 04:17am.

Apr 24 2004 01:11am

Ash
 - Eats Babies
 Ash

There's plenty of things in life I would love to re-live but I cant. Doesn't mean I cant make new memories.
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Apr 23 2004 10:32pm

JamesF1
 - Student
 JamesF1

Quote:
Yep, most of you can see it by my profile ID (594).

It was great back then, I'd do anything to re-live that.


Agreed!
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Apr 23 2004 10:15pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Sometimes it sucks having good memories. You think about them, and then you look around you, and you realize it's not as good as it was back then. It can be eternally frustrating, especially when the thought 'maybe I should've enjoyed it more back then' crosses your mind.

But, there's nothing you can do about it but accept the fact that it was nice then, remember why it was nice - everyone says you should learn from your mistakes, but don't forget to learn from the things you did right as well - and try to make the best of it.

I just play games for fun. I stopped trying being the best at them a long time ago (it's a long story). Now, I just look at it as a way to enrich my life (giving me things to think about, learn about the other side of the story, etc.), meet new people and make new friends.

Apr 23 2004 06:56am

Eclipse DKana
 - Student
 Eclipse DKana

Yep, most of you can see it by my profile ID (594).

It was great back then, I'd do anything to re-live that.

Apr 23 2004 06:35am

Casual
 - Student
 Casual

I find that whether you like this place or not is, just like anything else, a matter of personality on your's and everyone else's behalf. When you enter a community such as this, your first few months will pass as you try to make new friends, be as negotiable as possible, and try not to piss anyone off. Now, in my opinion, that is the critical time for most, since most of your time is spent on perceiving what happens around you.

Now, to find the main idea behind this very perplexing post, here we go. I have always considered myself as a outgoing person. A party animal. "The funny guy". "The drunken poet". And other names all my homeboys call me with. When I joined the JA, I took a quick look at the servers, was _INSTANTLY_ greeted by almost all the people on the server, and was instantly shown around the map. Amazing, huh?

Well then I decided to pop by in IRC. First I was amazed at the amount of text people wrote in the channel, more than anything I have ever seen. People said hi, and I started my observation. I thought I'd play according to the idea of looking for people who type with similar ideas as you would, and get to know them. Soon I had a list of potential friends in my mind, and it was enormous and still growing.

What I am trying to say, is that apart from the fact that I joined early this year, and thus I have no idea of what this was like when Jacen was still in the cradle, this has been the most rewarding online experience for me. In no other place have I met such a great amount of _good_ online friends in such a short time. They truly spice up my life when I join the IRC channel.

Now, as a final statement, I just have a question: The place I describe can't really be bad can it? :) But like I said, it's up to different factors that define your enjoyment here, e.g. sense of humour, tolerance etc.

I'm sorry that I've been so absent, but I hope it will change in the summer.

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Apr 22 2004 11:47pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Lol sorry, but being nice to people is a bit like an exercise bike....it gives you something to do but it doesn't really get you anywhere.

Or that famous quote by that famous war leader (he's so famous I can't remember his name :P)

"It is not enough that I succeed, but all my enemies must fail!"
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This comment was edited by Jake Kainite on Apr 22 2004 11:52pm.

Apr 22 2004 11:00pm

Sauce
 - =^.^=
 Sauce

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Most people play their games for fun for new experiences and escape reality. I don't. I play for the feeling of utterly crushing someone else into the dust, thats how I'm played all my games, I like winning, thats what I do.


errr booo lol.

Apr 22 2004 10:28pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Speaking from a players point of view, the JKII days were better.

Before I continue I'm not gonna turn this into another JK:JA bashing post :P

Basically how I play games is not the same as everyone else plays em. Most people play their games for fun for new experiences and escape reality. I don't. I play for the feeling of utterly crushing someone else into the dust, thats how I'm played all my games, I like winning, thats what I do.

Like halflife, battlefield 1942, quake and all other games like that before me, Jedi Knight II has held a special place in my heart. Not only is it an uber fps game but its also based on a subject genre which I love :D

When I play a game I analyse everything about it, whats gonna give me the edge ? whats gonna enable me to beat the other guy ? JKII had lots of that in it, JK:JA just seems to have nothing other than what you see in it, theres no hidden maneuvres or exploit moves which give you an edge.

Sorry I'm babbling now, I've had a bit to drink, but I'm pissed off with JA, its not as good as JKII and thats a F A C T, not my opinion.....

(*Disclaimer* please be aware that the statement made above is actually the writers opinion and not a fact.)
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Apr 22 2004 08:04pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Well said Davla. The switch from Jedi Knight 2 to Jedi Academy was crucial though. It matters alot if you like the game or not (e.g. Monty retired because he didn't like it). In that case nostalgia does rule the current experience, but still no reason to talk 'negative crap'.

Apr 22 2004 04:21pm

Nomi D'Kana
 - Student
 Nomi D'Kana

I think it has been generally agreed that the reasons poeple have said the old days were better are:

1)smaller/more intimate
2)less lamers (due to above)
3)jk2 was the game, and the transition for some people to jk3 was not a good one

It is also, I think, generally agreed that JA today is good because:

1)It is a unique community with respect at its center
2)It is an excellent place to learn all jk related skills (not to mention an increasing number of new skills :))
3)It is a place where new friends are found and help is ever present

From this I think, some of the negative things are not really negative but rather well deserved nostalgia and much of what made the JA great still remains.

The challenge for us now is not to let nostalgia dictate our current experience, hopes and goals for the Academy but rather let the memories (or stories for us newbies) of past glory inspire us and provide the fire to continue strengthening the good elements, refining away the bad and creating a vital, exciting, evolving Academy.

As I have said before: this place is the best thing I have experienced on the 'net. Lets continue to share, guide, enforce, teach, chat, have fun and duel in an environment which shapes both skills and character.

rant, rant, rant:D:D:D

Davla:alliance:
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Apr 22 2004 06:51am

Plo Koon
 - Student
 Plo Koon

i joined before huxley and thats old :P

the academy is still a great place but i do miss the jk2 days badly,where i took skill to win-training and hard work to get good!
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Apr 22 2004 02:05am

Xavier
 - Student
 Xavier

ive been here pretty long. i was here before lots of people left. ive read there speeches. I was here when the JASE was still here. I was here when the best Trainers now were still knights. I was here when smily first got her Trainer rank and was her first padawan. I was here before a lot of this stuff started to happen. I seen a lot. The academy has changed a lot sme bad ways, and some good. thats all i can say
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Apr 22 2004 01:36am

Flash
 - Student
 Flash

Well JK3 included lots of things that JK2 had, so there was no discovery there for the JK2 players.

Apr 22 2004 01:07am

3th
 - Retired
 3th

Quote:
...there was more learning because there were things about the game no one knew about til near the release of JK3


so Raven made both jk2 and jk3 right? do you think they slacked off and just didn't put as much depth in jk3? or is there a chance that all the nuances to jk3 just haven't been found yet?

color me curious :)
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This comment was edited by 3th on Apr 22 2004 01:08am.

Apr 21 2004 03:29pm

DJK
 - Student
 DJK

It was fun when it was only JK2, hehe, i remember beeing a reaaaal newbie, i sucked...i probably still do:P. Anyway, i can say that there has been major changes here, from last time i was here. This time though i have decided to stay for some time and be more active;)
But all in all, this place, the people,the staff, the teachers, the knights, ect. ect. all rule, they are nice to echother, the place takes care of those whoo can't fight or, just want to have fun, wich they couldn't out on the normal servers without getting banned permenent. None want to train a newbie out in the normal servers, thats why this place rocks! I havent played with any of you yet, but i look forward to be P4wn3d by ech one of you :D so peace out, and Long Live the Academy, becourse the day it goes down, alot of people will be sad, thats why we have to see the best out of the time it is still here, with all the wonderful great people in it!!!!! w0000000000t!:)

Apr 21 2004 03:00pm

Mace Windu
 - Retired
 Mace Windu

Good ol'JK2 :)
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Apr 21 2004 02:15pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Thats rubbish lego, most of the good JKII players quit :D The people you're talking about are the CTF players, and thats only a very small portion of them...
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Apr 21 2004 02:13pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

I think you mean now play jk3 LeGo :)

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