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Apr 24 2004 10:53pm

Mreoton
 - Student
I started playing JK2 assuming I would get better at it. When I realised I wasn’t getting any better I thought becoming good at JK3 would be the best idea. I’ve been playing JK3 online since it came out around September and I have won less than 20 duels.
I’ve had loads of people giving me tips and pointers on how to improve but I'm just unteachable. Maybe I’m just unlucky or just plain suck. Anyway as I lose so much I don’t find the game fun anymore. I have a lot more fun playing SWG than JK3. So I’m officially retiring from the game. I will still post here and be on IRC a lot of the time because this community just plain pwns!
I’d like to thanks all the people who have tried to help me with the game especially my old master Jacen :)
Dunno if any of you really care but I just thought I’d post it.:alliance:

btw KitMitsu has left the building ;)

This post was edited by Mreoton on May 01 2004 09:45pm.

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Apr 25 2004 06:17pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Quote:
But what if training isn't fun? Should you do something you don't enjoy, hoping it will result in fun, in the end?

The fun is in the journey, so if you don't like the journey, it's probably not worth it :P

Apr 25 2004 04:38pm

Thomasooo
 - Student
 Thomasooo

Too bad to see ya give up, Kit. :( I sorta know how you feel. But if you like SWG better, by all means, have fun with that! :)
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Apr 25 2004 03:38pm

Khâ D'Kana
 - Student
 Khâ D'Kana

Life is made like that, ways are often going in differents directions :(

But enjoy SWG and GL in RL.

-Khâ D'Kana
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Proud member of the D'Kana family


This comment was edited by Khâ D'Kana on Apr 25 2004 03:40pm.

Apr 25 2004 02:57pm

Rogue
 - Student
 Rogue

Bro, Im a real old ass guy here at the academy, and I am 99% sure Im the worst duelist in the academy :P but Im still here, because it makes getting better all the more fun. Besides there is more to do in the Jedi Academy than just duel with sabers, try guns, of force ffa, there is bound to be something your good at, trust me ;)
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Apr 25 2004 02:52pm

Sauce
 - =^.^=
 Sauce

me either

Apr 25 2004 02:50pm

Ulic |retired|
 - Student
 Ulic |retired|

But what if training isn't fun? Should you do something you don't enjoy, hoping it will result in fun, in the end?

I don't think so.
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Apr 25 2004 02:50pm

Sauce
 - =^.^=
 Sauce

bah to be honest...and please keep in mind that i'm making gross generalizations to make my point.

There are two general types of players. One is can become relatively good just by dueling alot and the other type have to practice techniques and tatics, whether on the side or in duels, to improve. However, more often than not, the latter type ignores practice because practice is a whole lot less interesting than dueling. As a result, their progress invaribly ceases as they focus more on win/loss instead of getting better.

IMO, that is why there is such a big difference in talent in the pub players, aside from newbie gamers, because if you are not of the first type and don't practice, your growth in skill stunts.

So what am i tryin to say...oh yeah. JA is a great place for the second type of ppl who needs a good amount of practice to augment their skills. So it is beneficial to take some time off chatting and to swing da saber! Oh yeah, have fun practicing!

Apr 25 2004 01:51pm

SS/ph00d
 - Student
 SS/ph00d

Don't go Kit, it takes practice, and lots of people are good, so it's not easy to always win. Don't go man :(
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Apr 25 2004 01:46pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

It's not about skill, no. Thats what this place is for. Training!!!

Quote:
THE place for Jedi training.


So if your losing, train!!! Keep trying. Thats my advice. ;)

Apr 25 2004 01:06pm

o2b
 - Student
 o2b

I totally agree Aron...the academy is so much more than the game. This is the first game that I've not been bitterly disappointed in being pwned by someone! Most of my comments after being killed with the other bloke still having 50 shields is "wow...very nicely done! Salute!" and I mean it.

I don't think it's because of the game either, because when I was in the public servers, if I got killed I was getting very frustrated and angry.
But since I've been at the academy, I've rarely gone back to public servers.

But if fighting's not for you, if you aren't happy with duelling, there's a host of other things you can do...IRC scripting, forum talkies, mapping...just ask and someone will be there to help :)

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Apr 25 2004 01:01pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Quote:
Many people you have to WIN in order to have fun.
Well, you don't ;)

That's very true, but I don't think it's up to the Academy to try to change that in a student, and frankly, I'm not surprised that there are many people here who think that way.

Hypothetical: If you're not very good at the game, and you seek a place where you can improve (so you can win, and thus have fun), this is surely a site you'll come across.

I agree that the Academy serves a purpose different, and maybe greater, than teaching, but there is a difference between purpose and goal. I hope you're not implying that the Academy's goal is to actively influence my life :P And I also hope that the JAK/JAT/JAC perform their jobs primarily in order to provide the students with a better learning experience.

This is all slightly off topic though :P As I said before, have fun and good luck with SWG Kit ;)

Apr 25 2004 12:47pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

What I discover more and more lately, is that the Academy actually has a different purpose than most people think.

Sure, we are a school, but we reach far beyond that. The primary goal is not to make every skilled players anymore.

My opinion, anyway.

The Academy is such a great, but weird (in a good way) place.
It is a community that was originally built with the idea "we love the game, and we want to help people become better at it".

Now, the Academy has grown from a couple of members to more than thousand active members.

It reaches beyond the "internet". The academy has made an impact on the REAL lives of many people.
It has changed their attitudes, way of thinking, speaking and acting.
At times, it is a refuge if RL isn't just going like you want it to. I know it was, and still is, for me.

There are so many great people here. We don't just chat; a lot of people actually care about eachother, including their real lifes.

Seriously.. I knew this place was special, but I discover it more and more lately.

This place IS special. It is not just some internet community. For a lot of people, this place enriches their life.

Let's get back to the point: The game.

As I said, imo our primary goal is no longer to improve people's skill. Of course, it is A goal, but we have a much greater privilege:

EVERYONE can make an impact on someone else.
Not just in-game. Also with real life issues.
It is not about winning, it is about having fun :)
Many people think you have to WIN in order to have fun.
Well, you don't ;)

I don't know how I should put this, but this is for everyone, especially the "newer" people:

This place IS special. It really is. You have to see it for yourselfs... I wish I could describe it, but I can't.
Please, remember this is a place to have fun and that we can ALL help to improve this place, and the people around us.

This comment was edited by Aron on Apr 25 2004 12:58pm.

Apr 25 2004 12:44pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

I think you made the right decision. Don't play the game because others want you to, it's you who should have fun playing it. Have fun with SWG!

Apr 25 2004 12:39pm

Nero
 - Student
 Nero

yup Bubu sucks:P

*runs away avoiding punches*

btw. I suck aswell and well...I don't care:D
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Apr 25 2004 11:05am

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

Hey man, I barely win any duels at all... and I'm a JAT ;)
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Apr 25 2004 11:05am

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

cmon man I am as sucky in JK2 and JKA but I don't give up!

- cmad :empire:
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Apr 25 2004 10:53am

Ulic |retired|
 - Student
 Ulic |retired|

I know exactly how you feel, and I think I'll do the same soon, although i don't have swg to keep me entertained.
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Apr 25 2004 08:51am

JamesF1
 - Student
 JamesF1

And make sure you stick around on MSN ;)
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Apr 25 2004 08:48am

JamesF1
 - Student
 JamesF1

I've been at the Academy for a heck of a long time now, and I win VERY FEW duels, but I still play - albeit occasionally. And why? Because I have fun. For me, winning duels and/or anything else isn't important if I'm having fun :)
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Apr 25 2004 08:40am

Master Lew
 - Student
 Master Lew

Winning duels is not as important as you might think. It’s more important to just have fun. You grow both as a player and a person when you lose if you learn from that loss. It’s how you handle the defeat that’s important.
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Apr 25 2004 04:15am

xAnAtOs
 - Student

Well i cant really tell you to not give up if you already have, but hey, do what you enjoy doing. At least you're still gonna be around :)
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Apr 25 2004 03:04am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Maybe you don't play enough?

If I dueled you. I'd duel you 20 times and let you win. That way, you will have won more than 20 duels. :P

This comment was edited by Setementor on Apr 25 2004 03:05am.

Apr 24 2004 11:24pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

Hes Lying, he is just in love with SWG :D
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Apr 24 2004 11:21pm

Sauce
 - =^.^=
 Sauce

bah. i hate to see someone give up like this but the decision is ur's to make. if i actually had any teachin skills i would help ya but...sighs...:P anyway, i hope ya have fun doing the other stuff. :alliance:

Apr 24 2004 11:14pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Feh, don't give up.... well, at least you'll be on IRC still. Enjoy SWG. :)

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