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Tido - Student  |
**EDIT** I'm bumping this because I want to obtain just a little more feedback and acknowledgement that you guys feel that JAP = JAS..one is not greater than the other. A Padawan is, in essence, a student that has a personal instructor..nothing more. ********************************************* Before I take off, I wanted to start a little discussion. What do you consider the role of JAP to be in the JA. The holocron doesn't list any roles or responsibilties for JAPs. So I just wanted to start a thread for you guys to share what being a Padawan means to you. It could be a lot of things or it could be nothing. Go! Discuss! This post was edited by Tido on Jul 09 2004 08:55pm. |
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Squibit - Student 
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Quote: JAP = JAS..one is not greater than the other. A Padawan is, in essence, a student that has a personal instructor..nothing more. Quote: the JAP is just a JAS that happens to get training from a master because they usually cannot make classes. Ok then ... brace yourselfs, this could be a long one  please remeber through the whole post this is all just in my opinion Firstly I would like to point out that these two statements while seeming similar are acctualy IMO completly different. Time for Squibit to do some quote disecting "JAP = JAS..one is not greater than the other." Correct, agree completly, nothing wrong with this. "A Padawan is, in essence, a student that has a personal instructor" The only thing that lets me allow tido to get away with this one without me poking and slapping him is the "in essence" "that happens to get training from a master" Ouch! Ok thats 1 step further than Tdio I explained what being a padawan means to me in a earlier post, so i wont bother to type it all out again. But being a padawan of Fizz is much more than "happens to get training from a master". "the JAP is just a JAS" Just a JAS? I think there is no "just" about being a student of the academy ... but thats just being picky "because they usually cannot make classes." Hmmm while that is a very good reason for seeking out a master, or taking on a student as a padawan it is FAR from the only reason. I personaly go to as many classes as i can (I know i never bother to enroll but the kind jaks and jats put up with me  ). I get views from many different trainers and end up going to "lots" of classes.I am still a padawan. The inability to make classes had nothing to do with it for me. Ok i think thats about it not as long as i expected _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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JAS's go to classes and learn. Being a JAP is if you can't make classes, or need extra help in learning in my opinion. Your still getting taught, not to much difference if you think about it.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  |
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3th - Retired 
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a JAS that has a good connection with many other students can learn much more than a JAP that only looks for instruction from their master. having the widest base of knowledge to pull from is the best way to make sure you get a full spectrum of training possibilities. that's why it's great to have a lot of friends you can mess around with and experiment and learn new things. but to answer your question more directly. yes, the JAP is just a JAS that happens to get training from a master because they usually cannot make classes. _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Squibit - Student 
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/me poitns to all my previouce posts ... feed back complete _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Tido - Student 
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I'm bumping this because I want to obtain just a little more feedback and acknowledgement that you guys feel that JAP = JAS..one is not greater than the other. A Padawan is, in essence, a student that has a personal instructor..nothing more. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: Oh, and being a JAP is just like being a JAS. Unless you're Bubu's paddy, in which case you automatically ROCK THE WORLD! weeeeeeee and of course all Belouves do  _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Squibit - Student
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Quote: People go around saying "I'm JAP, you're JAS; I pwn you". I don't see a point. They do !!! I have never seen this, and if someone were to say somthing like this i'm sure that soon thier flashy little P will become an S once more _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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IMO there is no difference between JAS and JAP, except personal view. JAP has master, JAS does not (or an unofficial one). Further than that, there's no difference. People go around saying "I'm JAP, you're JAS; I pwn you". I don't see a point. JAPs are at the same level in terms of obligations towards the JA. Personally, for me JAA = JAP = JAS (where JAA = JA Apprentice, NOT Aurochs). _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Lego[DEAD] - Ex-Student ![Lego[DEAD]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=48&f_image=../banned.png){kind=small}
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i lame people , HEHE _______________ AHH YOU ARE ALL NICE LADS |
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Squibit - Student
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HUH? I don't know how that was picking on your spelling, I was appologising for if i misspelt elabourate _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Mikel Rider - Student 
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Quote: But ill just (eek spelling?) elabourate (explain in more detail) on what a few of the points in an earlier post mean to me You guys are always picking on my spellin. :-( _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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Casual - Student 
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I don't know really what the role of the JAP is, and in fact, it really doesn't matter that much. I personally won't wear the tag, why bother? If some people get kicks out of it, then fine by me, but I still get the feeling of bragging whenever I see the tag after someone's name. But that's just me. Oh, and being a JAP is just like being a JAS. Unless you're Bubu's paddy, in which case you automatically ROCK THE WORLD! -Cas out _______________ Thanks to the human heart by which we live, Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears, To me the meanest flower that blows can give Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears. |
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Janus - Retired 
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I have to agree with the all-around statements made below. I've always seen it as the representation of the Knight/Trainer 's code of conduct to other students. We are all equals, none better than anyone else, but it's a respect and honor system. I kind of classify a JAK/JAT & JAP relationship as a focused learning, and that a JAP is to "be the sponge" soaking up all that is taught. Don't want to babble too much, had to give the simple opinions _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Yeah Aron I was just testing the limits of the rules it has happened before, someone with a clan tag just happened to be [JAK] _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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PlooKoon - Student 
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I believe JAP is a just another learning route and maybe a larger one than a JAS , a JAP has a personal trainer, a trainer than picked them as to be an apprentice, to learn their views and their way of the game that we all love. I do not think it is right to be said that JAP is more than JAS, JAP to me is cool but it is wrong to think u r better than a JAS therefore i believe that there is no point statign anything in the holocron about JAP , it demotes JAS's which makes them feel less worthy. this is said many times and most of you would have heard it 'you do not need a master, just go to the classes' in my opinion this is true, JAK+ are one of the most helpful ppl around (not including helpful students) and if you want some tutoring just ask them for some help, or ask another student , if the JAK+ are busy they always say tomorow , even though their schedual is very very busy they find time to help you, so if you need any trainign just ask , if you guys have enough energy to read this . from your friendly kel dor -pLOOkOON  _______________ Moo |
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Axion - Student 
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Quote: For me, bein a JAP is more then getting special attention from oyur JAK or JAt, it also means giving special attention to oyur fellow JAPs when oyu can, and representing your JAT (or JAK). I always try to represent smily. We have no official responsabilities but i do try and hold myself to a high standard, so I can set an example to all the new JAS. Thats bout it from me :-) same here mikel _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg){kind=small}
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got ya, kueller! i was just kidding, of course i know what you meen! and sure thing is that JAM/JAC/JAT/JAK/JAP/JAS makes no difference at all to the person. only the personality does ;-) a wise man said once: "stupid is, who stupid does", so think i too. it doesnt make any difference whish tag you wear. have a nice evening, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Kueller - Student 
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Daidalus, sure you're special to me, as are a lot of ppl here But it's because you're the person that you are and not because of the tag. What I tried to tell was that ppl shouldn't treat ppl differently solely on the ground of JAS/JAP tag. Because it would be unfair to treat ppl without master differently than ppl that DO have a master. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Aron - Retired 
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Quote: Technically ANYONE can put a [JAP] tag at the end of their name! We're allowed clan tags here, if anyone asks just say its a clan tag. If it means that much to you, and you feel that padawans get more respect, make a damn tag! ....right. Please don't take this too seriously; clan tag or not, don't use it unless you are a Padawan. It is the same principle for using JAK/JAT and JAC tags. |
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg&f_odd=1){kind=small}
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I agree with squib here. Very nice explenation of paddawanship Quote: (eg. daidalus covering Kueller ALL the time ) thx! i hope that reminds Kueller that he has a job to do But im glad to help where ever i can help, thats the padawans are for too, help their master and brothers if they ave problems. of course many oher players will help each other too, but the paddawans are more "family-like". boooo kueller! im nothing spetial to you?  greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Squibit - Student
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But ill just (eek spelling?) elabourate (explain in more detail) on what a few of the points in an earlier post mean to me Quote: it also means giving special attention to oyur (your*) fellow JAPs Yup, fellow JAPs as in having the same master as you, thats one reason why the JA familys have held so strong because you are usualy (always?) good friends with your fellow paddys, I think my best friends here are Roan Belouve, Vaxxla Belouve, Bail Belouve and Seth belouve. (and masta fizzy of course) But also giving attention to other paddys, especialy thoses whos master is a fiend of your master. Ie. Kuller used to have a class right before/after Fizz's and they often covered for each other, I am now friends with all the Fistos (daidalus, Narcost and past fisto D@mned )Quote: and representing your JAT (or JAK) Yes indeed, they are there to help you , both with skills and other things. But you can also help them, passing on thier views, doing general stuff, and getting them their beers. Once you have trained significantly far, they may start to ask you for help out wiht classes as you should by then know about it as (at least for me) you have been to most of them. (eg. daidalus covering Kueller ALL the time )Quote: We have no official responsabilities but i do try and hold myself to a high standard, so I can set an example to all the new JAS. Yes high standard, if you muck about or do somthing foolish it not only reflects on you but also on your master Eg. Why the hell is FiZZ training Squibit when he runs around laming??? But it also works the other way around, (Wow that was amazing squib, whos your master???) So in conculsion, thanks mikel rider, perfect May The FiZZ Be With You _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Technically ANYONE can put a [JAP] tag at the end of their name! We're allowed clan tags here, if anyone asks just say its a clan tag. If it means that much to you, and you feel that padawans get more respect, make a damn tag! _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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No, i'm just a fussy b*tch |
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Ancient - Ex-Student 
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HAha...JJ.. you are really strange, i saw you as JAS one week eariler and JAK two weeks eariler, and a JAS three weeks eariler; finally you came back to JAK again this week....lol... Are you a part-time JAK?? _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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The JAP/JAS responsabilities are just to follow the simple rules and follow instructions, have fun and enjoy yourself. |
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