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JAK+ Single Saberists Outnumber Others
May 27 2004 07:51pm

n00b
 - Student
n00b
It was cool that we finally got an awesome dual saberist for a JAK. Now, thats motrec and YinYang that aren't single saber. This is an aweful imbalance since there are 3 sabers and 90% of the JAKs are single. This goes for almost all the instructors as well. All in all we need more teaching of the other sabers so this remains "JK3", not "JK2 without decent DFAs" :P
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This post was edited by n00b on May 27 2004 07:51pm.

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May 31 2004 12:55am

Flash
 - Student
 Flash

I dislike using duals and staff, so I stick with single.

May 30 2004 11:23pm

Fire
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 Fire

Staff and Duals are extremely unique, very different in their own ways between themselves, and definitely single saber. Although they only have 2 stances each, they can be varied to create extremely effective styles.

Both are 100% controllable. They're EXTREMELY effective weapons, and they both count very much on timing like the single saber. Each saber is equal and unique in it's own ways, it's the person that wields it that truly makes a difference :D

Don't forget guns either!!!!! :P

This comment was edited by Fire on May 30 2004 11:23pm.

May 30 2004 12:07pm

Darth Bamse
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 Darth Bamse

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staff and dual suck becouse they cant be really controled.


Most stupid thing I ever heard.

When I tried the duals in single player, I thought: "Oh my, I can't hit anything!" But then, going to classes, learning the combos and movement, the duals have become my weapon of choice. I like the staff too, and use it at times. Single can be very versatile yes, but face it, they're all equal.

I'm with you n00b, all the way!
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May 30 2004 08:46am

Acey Spadey
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 Acey Spadey

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May 29 2004 10:58pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

Another point about knowing everything about the game :D....

To learn the weaknesses of a style you're fighting agaisnt, the best thing to do is USE that style, so then you know your own limitations, and thus the limitations of you're opponent :D
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May 29 2004 09:54pm

3th
 - Retired
 3th

man, i'm falling in lub with the staff! :D :o :eek:

it is amazingly valuable as an education experience to really learn other saber styles. :)
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May 29 2004 07:50pm

Janus
 - Retired
 Janus

I've had my yap shut for awhile now with these threads, and now ozzcoz, you've spoken, and I shall too. I agree completely with you on the dual and staff, I've been a staff user the entire time, learning the ins and outs, and it HAS become an extension of my personality. It hurts still to this day when the "dis'" gets thrown about duals and staff. They are styles, just like single, that have their own way of fighting to them.

I'm pretty sure what n00b was trying to say on the outnumbering, was with the main style used by the JAK+. Certainly you've all learned to use them, but the one you take into battle with you on a consistant basis is the single. I agree with the JAK+, I've seen you all use the different ways, but when you pick your main weapon of choice, it's significantly a Single saber environment. Just an observation.

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May 29 2004 04:59pm

ozzcoz
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 ozzcoz

n00b, i understand exactly what you mean.
I guess we'll just have to wait until more dual/staff users get promoted. It is a little boring to see so many classes dedicated to just single styles.
On a sadder note, i'm disappointed to see so many students still dissing the staff/duals. One guy says duals are too hard to control! Ever considered learning buddy? I won't say one thing is better than another, but i love my dual sabers, and they become an extension of my personality.
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May 29 2004 02:01pm

xAnAtOs
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Jake, it's great to know all there is to know about the game, with every little feature you pointed out below :P but 95% of us, or rather, basically all of us are not in that situation. To be honest, I don't really care about guns. Sure, i still have knowledge on guns and stuff, but I'd rather specialise in a certain area (single saber), and teach it well. Not all of us are allround 1337 players like you were in jk2, jake :P

n00b, by all means, get people to change over to duals and staff if you wish. But count me out, i love my single saber :P

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May 29 2004 12:29pm

SedNox
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 SedNox

i keep with the single.

dual and staff is just. . . .different :P
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This comment was edited by SedNox on May 29 2004 12:29pm.

May 28 2004 01:03am

Tido
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 Tido

I'm just another token single saberist. It's what I love and what I'll stick with. However if the Academy wishes to add more staff/duals to the curriculm but isn't ready to promote people to JAK+ because of their saber style, then how about guest instructors? People asked to teach as a guest under the supervision of a JAT. Just spitting it out, I haven't given the idea much thought.

This comment was edited by Tido on May 28 2004 01:04am.

May 28 2004 12:43am

Fire
 - Student
 Fire

I use mainly single, duals, and staff, but duals and staffs often on the public servers elsewhere.

May 28 2004 12:01am

Jaiko D'Kana
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 Jaiko D'Kana

I use single AND staff :)
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May 28 2004 12:00am

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

its like Katan said.
Most JAK+ know how to use them all, but are just too lazy to change ;)

plus, single is most verastile. anyway, I use single and staff most frequently.
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May 27 2004 11:43pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

The staff are here to play as well :D so you can't 'make' anyone use a specicfic type of saber.

My opinion though, if you're a 'teacher of JK:JA' then you should know EVERYTHING about the game, all gamemodes, maps, weapons, forcepowers, moves etc. Thats what I allways strived for in JKII and I think its a shame how most people only focus on one or 2 areas.
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May 27 2004 11:02pm

Sared
 - Retired
 Sared

I use duals and you know it man. :P
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May 27 2004 11:00pm

n00b
 - Student
 n00b

There's 35 JAK+ and only 5 or 6 use dual or staff? Is this accurate? Even with the extra people you guys have mentioned, its still overwhelmingly single saber.

It just sure would be nice to see more students encouraged to dedicate themselves to the other sabers. Gotta mix it up a bit, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

Anyone reading this who has had second thoughts about becoming a dedicated dual or staff saberist because of peer pressure on the server, I welcome you to join in the fun of dual and staff. If more people join in, we can definitely spice things up a bit from the hum-drum repetition of single duelling. Its all in the name of fun!

Motrec has been quite an inspiration to me and the dual sabers. Just seeing him try to be different from the cookie cutter red stancer has been quite a lift for me and my interest in the game.
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This comment was edited by n00b on May 27 2004 11:03pm.

May 27 2004 09:38pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

becouse single saber is elegant and if you can control single your da owner :P

but staff and dual suck becouse they cant be really controled.
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May 27 2004 09:07pm

Katan
 - Student
 Katan

many of our JAK+ can duel with them all, they just use single b/c they are too lazy to change :P
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May 27 2004 08:45pm

SS/ph00d
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 SS/ph00d

Who needs a saber when you can just blow people up with guns ;) GUNS > SABERS gg ty
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May 27 2004 08:44pm

Ash
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 Ash

i switch between duals and single all the time. ive been know to whip out a staff now and then too.
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May 27 2004 08:24pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

Acey teaches duals.

May 27 2004 08:22pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

YY and Kueller use staff, not dual.


And don't look at me, I'm the only one that doesn't use a saber at ALL. :P

May 27 2004 08:19pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

Kueller uses dual and teaches a staff class? :confused:
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May 27 2004 07:58pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

Kueller uses Dual Sabers aswel if i'm not mistaking :)

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