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Aug 22 2025 02:42am

Pepsi
 - ex-Student
I put a post on this on the bowing section as well, but I'd like to know what ppl that have grown tired of the Bowing discussion think as well, so here it goes.

What's more important? Getting good at playing this game, or being an 'honorable' jedi?

Gun on!

/Pepsi

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Feb 24 2003 01:52pm

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

I’m sorry Aeth, but having fun wasn’t one of the options on either Pepsi or my question of what was more important. You get 3 points deducted for not following directions.
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Feb 24 2003 01:30pm

Aeth S'kray
 - Retired
 Aeth S'kray

most important: have fun!

but make sure others can have fun aswell, and thats the balance act. and that's what makes it spicy to live every day ;)
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Feb 24 2003 11:23am

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

Ok, in the theme of the title of this thread, I want to ask another question:

What is more important…

Saving an old lady from a burning building or helping a baby cross the road?
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Feb 23 2003 02:41pm

Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]

i am a bunny in the desert:D
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Feb 21 2003 06:59pm

Master Lew
 - Student
 Master Lew

What's more important?

Dry socks and clean underware, that's what.:D
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Feb 21 2003 06:01pm

Battlin' Billy
 - Student
 Battlin' Billy

I'll stick with Mohawk!:D The Master thingt can be quite confusing!

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This comment was edited by Battlin' Billy on Feb 21 2003 06:01pm.

Feb 21 2003 04:20pm

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

Silent Whisper said “Is it me or are all of your posts a bit redundant, Pepsi?”

Hehe I just got your joke.
You were being silly right, because your name is redundant?

That was very clever indeed. I'm sorry I'm so slow.
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Feb 20 2003 07:54pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Will do Captain Pixie Dust
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Feb 20 2003 07:48pm

Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]

lol, yeah that's it, lol

And as far as calling me mo... umm well I don't like it too much but you can call me whatever you want I guess, lol.

Most call me mohawk, orrr, Master which causes alot of confusion for everybody :P
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Feb 20 2003 07:14pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

Mo (can I call you Mo?)
I think it was a commercial for Bud Light.

"I love you man!"
"Uhhh...thanks."
"No man, I really love you!"
"NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY BUD LIGHT!!!"

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Feb 20 2003 05:55pm

Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]

Ioshee, heh, didn't see it as a lecture at all..

and hey, I love you too man!!!
lol, that was on some commercial a couple of years back, don't remember what though.. :D
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Feb 20 2003 04:57pm

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

MoS: I'll have to back you up on the paintball thing: I've been on a speedball tourney team too, and never in my life saw so much cheating! I like to win too, but man...

Pepsi: I'll agree with ioshee in that you're posts are much less abrasive, and more interesting to read. Thanks. It's a lot easier for me to either agree or disagree on certain points you make if my blood's not boiling from something you said that was unrelated to the topic at hand. Again, good job. I still disagree with you on many points, but I can now better understand where you are coming from.

(That's all I'm going to say, 'cause I'm trying to take the hint and shorten up my posts. :D )

-rh
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Feb 20 2003 04:55pm

Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]

Gahhh, you people post too much I can't keep up, lol. I'm a Jedi Purist? haha that's funny. No to tell the truth I wouldn't mind being better at CTF etc... maybe that's why I don't play them, cuz I suck? lol, yeah probably...not to mention where is the place for a new CTF'er when there's on person that makes all the points and whatnot.
I even had a guy who was so obsessed he killed ME when I had the flag and took it back to base himself :P

I might like to take CTF classes with people who weren't like freaking awesome already...
And also, the reason I haven't taken any of the other game mode classes is because it seems every time they take it there like 100 percent explain, and ) percent practice and actual gameplay...from what my brother and a friend said, I would say the classes for the other game modes need major help.

bah whatever :D
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Feb 20 2003 04:10pm

Pepsi
 - Ex-Student

Hehe. Way to go MoS. It's nice to see ppl find new interests within their old ones. It's a nice sign of selfawareness (or something, my psychology english fails me).

/Pepsi

Feb 20 2003 03:45pm

MINDofSIN
 - Student
 MINDofSIN

"Am I wrong about the paintball things, MoS?"

Sadly, for most of the games I play, you are. You will find the cheatingist sons a bitches you'll ever meet playing paintball. Some players have a nasty habit of playing on after they are shot, wiping paint, shooting refs to get them out of the way, etc. I play tournament paintball(speedball), not the same as rec(woods). When I'm just practicing or taking some of my relatives out to play, it is amazing how much people come together when forced to cooperate or get tagged out. I guess the sport brings out the best and worst in people. Check out www.warpig.com if you want to learn more about paintball.

Anyways, you've already fallen asleep at your computer, so I'll move on. I've been playing more CTF and trying to use guns as much as I can. I've greatly improved by doing a few simple things differently. (Who really needs red stance in CTF when you can get better force powers?)

I think that if we can get more people realizing how fun other game types can be, people will be more willing to learn how to play them.

But if anyone wants to take my saber away, they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers. :D
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This comment was edited by MINDofSIN on Feb 20 2003 03:48pm.

Feb 20 2003 02:58pm

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

Sorry Masterw. I didn't mean to lecture you:( Please forgive me. I love you man.

Pepsi, I'm not trying to patronize you, but your overall tone seems to be getting less abrasive. That’s cool man. Now people might be able to see your points without feeling rage and hate hehe;)
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Feb 20 2003 02:49pm

Pepsi
 - Ex-Student

Archangel:
I AM trying with the saber, ok?
The point I've been trying to make is that ppl should prove their worth with guns to get to teach guns. As it is now, everybody is duelling and learning duelling combos to advance in rank, but nowhere do they prove they can handle guns.
I play JK2 because of force powers. The ability to jump 8 stories high is intriguing since it makes maps so much more fun than on regular FPS games. As for behaviour, I haven't insulted anyone for at least 10 posts (I'm running out of nails to chew on), so I'm trying in that department as well.

It is, however, nice to hear somebody admit that there is a lack of knowledge about guns in the academy. You are the first person to say this aloud, and for that you've earned my respect. To accept the flaws in what we love, is to love it truly. I just would like to add proper use of guns and ctf tactics to the beauty of the academy, but pointing out that it is missing doesn't seem to be the popular thing to do.

MINDofSIN (who btw earned my respect earlier):
It's nice to know you know what I'm getting at, even though I don't think you thought the end of the thought.

I'm sure that when you and your friends are done blasting each other all to hell, you congratulate each other, as well as the opposing team, on a well played game and compliment each other on nice shots and tell stories of "I was hiding in the bush under the tree, when...". This is the 'honorable' side of ctf, so to speak, and it's a shame most people here don't know about it, because it IS fun. Am I wrong about the paintball things, MoS?

Gun on!

/Pepsi

Feb 20 2003 02:29pm

MINDofSIN
 - Student
 MINDofSIN

"About teachers, maps, mods, scripts:
I'll take that as a joke, or your personal opinion. Mine differs quite a bit, and I'm sure many other ppls do as well, as always when it comes to "ours is the best" or "this owns that."

I'm here for fun.

If everyone here started to practice everything with the sole intent of being the best I would be out of here. I play this game to relax.

I am on a tournament paintball team. We train hard to win, and we do. I understand where you're coming from, but we don't have the same goals as you either.

You said you have access to a server. Fire it up in CTF, and get some Academy members on board. Jacen does CTF, mainly for fun, on Saturdays, go there and get people motivated too.




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Feb 20 2003 02:24pm

Archangel
 - Ex-Student
 Archangel

Pepsi, we have had trainers who were skilled with guns here in the past but, they also knew the saber. The saber isn't a hard thing to learn so why not pick it up and give it a shot if you feel so adamently about the academy needing a gun specialist to teach classes. If Acidic were still a JAT, or Damage were still around you would have your gun instructors but, they are not. So pick up that saber, learn the basic skills, and show some respect and you may be able to take their places. If you keep badmouthing people and being rude however, you will go no where here at the Jedi Academy. Like you said 'Truth hurts, right'. But simply that is the truth. This place does not tolerate, and most definately not encourage that kind of behavior.

Another thing, why play JK2 for guns. You can't tell me it has the best gun set up of the games out right now. If you want guns why not play Medal of Honor, or my personal favorite Urban Terror? They are much better gun focused games. The guns in this game are, how can I say, very lacking. None of them are that spectacular. Just curious with the side note. I honestly don't see why anyone would play this game just for the guns, when the saber is the innovative thing that this game has. It also has so much more depth and takes so much more practice to be good with than a simple gun.

I'm sure I'll hear your response in a matter of minutes. See ya.
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Feb 20 2003 02:17pm

Pepsi
 - Ex-Student

Insaniac:
My point is that to get to teach guns you should be tested to handle them. I was reading the FAQ on what's required for each level, and the only time guns are mentioned is when you're supposed to dodge them. The point I was making when asking how ppl would feel if they were taught duelling by me is that there are no guns trials what so ever, and teaching something requires knowing the subject at hand. This is not the case with the guns classes today. They are held by ppl who have proven they can execute special moves with sabers, protect a person in a saber fight, and engage in FF duels. The notion of a person who has never played with guns trying to teach them is as ridiculous as the idea of me teaching ppl how to duel.

Nuff said (even I'm getting tired of repeating myself now).

/Pepsi

Feb 20 2003 01:59pm

Insaniac[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Insaniac[JAP]

Pepsi, i must point out to you that everyone else seems to trake your posts as braggin or something, you ask how we would like to be taught saber skills by you, but the thing is, we are tested to prove that we are ready Not only to HANDLE a class, but that we know what we are talking about, the reason for the other ranks is to mae it easier on the few people that can do trials.
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Feb 20 2003 01:35pm

Pepsi
 - Ex-Student

NFF (who devilishly posted while I was typing out the last comment):
Point taken, but I still don't understand why that prevents ppl that are good with using guns but suck with sabers from teaching guns classes, while the opposite is true. If I were to go to a guns class, I would like the teacher to be the most competent found in the academy on using them, since I'd be there to learn, and not to yawn and get upset since what is taught is way wrong.
Let's turn things around and make my point obvious. How would you like to be taught how to duel by me? How would Luke Skywalker (the JAK, not the movie character) like to be taught how to duel by me? How would you and he like it if I was teaching you things that you, with your experience KNEW was wrong? Would you react and offer to help, or would you try owning me with guns first so you could change things later, when you finally would have attained rank enough to put an end to the madness of an idiot teaching you how to use the saber? (I'm not saying current guns instructors are idiots, well, not all of them, but that I'm an idiot when it comes to sabers).

Cheers

/Pepsi

This comment was edited by Pepsi on Feb 20 2003 01:37pm.

Feb 20 2003 01:24pm

Pepsi
 - Ex-Student

Buzz:
I didn't have to. DJ_Sith asked me to email him my ideas so they can discuss it in the council. Something might happen, and yet again it may not. Whatever happens, I've sort of made my point anyways by opening the staff's eyes to a problem (again, meant in a nice way) I found within the academy.

Shiya:
I never said being a good person. I said 'honorable' jedi, which, in light of the academy's rules and traditions, shines differently in my eyes.
About teachers, maps, mods, scripts:
I'll take that as a joke, or your personal opinion. Mine differs quite a bit, and I'm sure many other ppls do as well, as always when it comes to "ours is the best" or "this owns that". The fact is that the academy today is suffering a severe lack when it comes to good instructors for guns based gametypes and any type of ctf. There are some, but many of the JAK's and JAT's don't play these gametypes, since they're more interested in duelling. You should read my last post on the 'Bowing' subject and you'll understand what I mean, without me having to repeat myself (once more).

Cheers

/Pepsi

This comment was edited by Pepsi on Feb 20 2003 01:45pm.

Feb 20 2003 01:16pm

NofrikinfuN
 - Retired
 NofrikinfuN

Pepsi, the reason sabers are the focus of the academy is this:

Every first-person shooter ever made has guns. None of them have sabers.

That's not to say we won't teach guns for this game. I have seen classes on CTF, Sniping and just guns in general. The fact that the trials focus on sabers is a Star Wars thing. This is the Jedi Academy. Anyone who has ever played a first-person shooter knows how to fire a gun. *Yes I realize that guns are more complicated than that, and yes I realize there are ways to become better with guns.* Sabers and force powers are the things that sets this game apart. That is why they are the focus.

Feb 20 2003 12:30pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Why don't you go ask every JAK JAT Staff Member and JAC if they are perfectly happy with how things are or if there are some things they would like to change.
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