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Pepsi - ex-Student |
I put a post on this on the bowing section as well, but I'd like to know what ppl that have grown tired of the Bowing discussion think as well, so here it goes.
What's more important? Getting good at playing this game, or being an 'honorable' jedi? Gun on! /Pepsi |
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Sniya - Student 
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Oh course being an honouble jedi is more important being a good person is always more important.
oh and pepsi i cant help but say you get on my nerves this place is a sanctuary for jk2 players,a fountain of knowthedge and good spirt.And a stroke of genius by the makers. we have the best trainers,best mod,best script,best map And despite all of this you who has only been here for a very short time has decided that your going to complain. _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
Bubu:
Ppl that have gotten high in rank are probably satisfied the way things are. I'm not, which means I have a lot to say, which means my posts grow long. Mohawk: I have been working on dueling a bit, and I've improved a bit as well (that is to say I've used something other than light style for the first time since I took down the lizard guy on single player. Sabers have no place in the gametypes I prefer, except for deflecting). Ofcourse I've noticed that things are centered around duelling. That's the original problem (problem being meant in a nice way here), since some students that want to play other gametypes or use guns a bit more get shoved aside by 'Jedi Purists' (like yourself) that refuse to use guns and simply aren't interested in anything but duelling. For an academy that wants to teach ppl to become good all round players, this is a bad thing. As for me becoming a Knight, I would say chances are ridiculously small in the near future, since knighthood (and even 'lesser' advancement) is done by duelling. That's the point I don't like. If the council wants top notch ctf trainers, then they should simply 'trial' them (like a clan would) and then appoint them trainers. About 90% of all good ctf players can't even do the special slashes if they get 3 attempts (and vice versa, I might add), so expecting one of the lasting 10% to join the academy and advance to trainer is like waiting for the moon to turn to cheese. About that class you attended... I don't know if it was the same class, but the first thing I did was to ask if I could do my exercises somewhere within view but out of the way from the others. I was told to get 'your ass back in line' in a rather blunt way so I pointed out (politely) what the problem was. Then I was told to shut up. This is where it got nasty. I don't think I'm the one to blame for this... Cheers /Pepsi PS. If I offended anyone with this post, I didn't mean to (and I don't understand how), so please explain to me what you think is offending and I'll remove it or explain myself so that everyone can be kept happy. This comment was edited by Pepsi on Feb 20 2003 12:08pm. |
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Masterw/AMohawk[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=51&f_height=70&f_image=Masterwmohawk.jpg)
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lol ioshee, that was like my least emotional post on the sunject so far  _______________ [Oi Oi Oi!!] |
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ioshee - Student 
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Masterw, be at peace. You have good points. Just don’t let Pepsi get you emotional. He doesn’t handle things in the best way sometimes that’s true, but maybe by our kindness we will encourage him to want to start handling them better.
Pepsi, A wise teacher once said to me that telling people to go to hell and making them look forward to the trip is true leadership (that is paraphrased, sorry.) I think the point is that if you want change, you should use manipulation instead of brute force, like cHoSeN oNe does. For every action there is an equal and opposite blah blah blah… you get the point. I mean that if you push, you will get resistance back. If you convince people that they want to go, then there will be no need to push. Bubu, You have a good point. Maybe it's like buying a big sports car to compensate for a lack of something else  J/K I post long sometimes too I guess. But not as long as Bubu.
Peace and… Banana on _______________ One of the Belouve boys This comment was edited by ioshee on Feb 20 2003 11:42am. |
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Masterw/AMohawk[JAP] - Ex-Student
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OK first of all, if you're so much better than everyone, it shouldn't take you long to do the work, and maybe get to Knight, at that point you could PROBABLY teach your own CTF class. You may be alot better then alot of the JAT's and JAK's in certain areas, that's great, do some work and prove it, teach your stupid class, and teach us all your superior techniques.
I don't know if you have noticed or not, but this place is really more centered around duelling. Now let's use a little common sense here, you said you still get whooped in duels...however you just 0wn all in CTF.... ok so since your duelling strategy isn't up to par... why not work on that while you're here and forget about all this stupid crap? My problem is not that I fear change, it's that I think your ideas in general won't pan out as good as you insist. If you want to come here and change everything, just go make your friggin academy. I really don't understand what your problem is....other than maybe you are ridiculously arrogant and think that your way is the best. There are things I myself would possibly change here myself, but I'm talking little things, why should we reform because YOU don't like the way things are done. I have been to classes that were so incredibly perfect, and then I've been to a few that were total hell, and I'll tell you something right now, it wasn't the JAT's doing in either circumstance, it was the people in the class that decided they wanted to listen and learn instead of goof off. You can't blame it on the techniques of the JAT's or the JAK's 100% of the time. I was also in a class once where the JAT/JAK had us doing drills in a somewhat...silly manner. We kept hitting eachother getting jammed in halls, etc. But instead of going "Hey this is stupid, you dumb JAK you're a retard we need to do this different wah wah wah", I just kept my mouth shut about it, and went to the back of the drill so I wouldn't keep getting sabered and trampled. I didn't have to say anything because it was pretty clear that the JAT/JAK realized for himself that a reform of their drills was in order. You have a somewhat ill way of proposing change btw, just like all those punks who run around saying "fuck racism", wtf is that supposed to mean? Yeah racism is bad, so let's say it AND make ourselves look like total blabbing, cursing, delinquent idiots in the process! At this point I wouldn't expect you to go much farther in the academy because you don't like the way we do things, you're impatient, you think your better and more intelligent that most of the people here, etc etc. It's common sense you don't spite the people that put you on top UNTIL they've put you there....if you act like this for the rest of your time here at the academy, who do you expect to nominate you for knight?? Who in the council do you expect will consider to bring you in as a JAT? _______________ [Oi Oi Oi!!] |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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true... but he is the only exception i have seen  _______________ make install -not war |
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ioshee - Student 
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Not true Bubu.
The Highest ranking master here (my master) has the longest posts I've EVER seen. _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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Ruuk Haviser - Retired 
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Bubu: point taken.
Pepsi: 1. Trust me, you aren't offending me RE: the stormstroopers, etc. I specifically don't use guns on sp anymore b/c it's basically - at the lower levels, at least - useless and boring. I just just slice through them like cheese while I move on to bigger and better (relatively speaking)enemies). Guns on-line is a whole different world and, I must say, quite fun in it's own way. 2. Hmmm. Ok. Well, I'm just going to leave this one up in the air because I don't feel I have enough information at this point to make an additional response. 3. Interesting. Well, again I'll have to withold comment. 4. Well, that explains some things. You were offended by some things generally said 1st because of the background and understandible baggage and experience you bring to the table. Others on JA found your abrasiveness (which is common and willingly expected on other sites) out of line with the commonly accepted verbal decorum (which, being rather new, you hadn't picked up on at the time). Ahhhh, yes. Just in real life, misunderstandings abound everywhere. Tell you what. I think there are people that are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of your, or definitely my, opinions on guns or sabers, honor or less honor, rp or no rp. Guess we'll have to just live with it. I suggest a truce with everyone, and offer that we all (Pepsi, you included) start out with a clean(-er) slate and try very hard to leave the verbal animosity out of the posts in the future. People will continue to disagree about things, no question. But if we could bring the fire-breathing down a few notches, I think Bubu and others would appreciate the shorter posts that would follow! 
Deal? -rh _______________ Back from the dead... |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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just an observation of mine:
the higher you go in rank, the shorter your posts become. _______________ make install -not war |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
Sigh. I'll never get to bed (6:58 am and ticking).
RH: 1. Actually I think this subject has been illtreated enough. What I should have said from the start was not that any gunner beats any saberist. I can probably beat anyone in a guns vs saber game (I'd be holding the gun, if that wasn't obvious), force or no force, but we all know the stormtroopers in single player can't (and believe me, there are actually worse players than that on some pubs). I hope noone feels offended by this, and if you do, send me an email on adde79@home.se and we can sort it out amongst ourselves. 2. Many students ARE interested in learning how to use guns, but the mentality of the academy is (seems to be, anyways) that is is somewhat improper (or 'unpure' or something, bad anyways). And the academy HAVE taken steps to "prevent students from getting utterly destroyed at guns FFA servers" (sareds words, not mine), so that part have also been met. 3. Different locations are hard to come by. Our clan has a server, but it's use is somewhat regulated, since it's a sponsorship deal, and we use it for playing matches and practising so the only really good place would be the academy's servers. 4. Zero was in no way blunt, while you were so gentle I missed it. As for whispy I explained my thoughts to her on irc. About chicken/egg thingie (this has also been posted by me before, so I'll keep it brief). On my first visit to this place I read the FAQ, question #1 (is TJA a clan?) which had some pretty stupid comments (stating TJA would rule all and dominate the world. If they wanted to, ofcourse) made on it that I found to be 'noobish', lame and offensive. This sort of shaped my first couple of posts here on the forums and it wasn't much of a shock when some ppl found it a bit offensive. So I guess it's fair to say I started the 'offensiveness', but not willingly. The posts I had read earlier (on the FAQ) was sort of 'rough' in language in a way I'm used to, so I used that tone, spiced up with longer posts and a bit of lone gunman (how fitting.  ) attitude.
I hope that answer was satisfactory, cause I'm honestly too tired to give one that's more fulfilling. Cheers. /Pepsi |
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ioshee - Student
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Pepsi, You could start your own Academy. Sure I know it might be slow at first, only teaching bots ctf technique. But eventually you would develop alternate personalities that you could teach as well
J/K don't shoot me. BTW you keep saying "gun on" Well I can't find the on/off switch on my gun  _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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Ruuk Haviser - Retired
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Thank you for the welcome.
I have been reading many of your posts, actually, and understand most of what you're getting at. However, I'm not sure you fully understand a couple of the points *I* was trying to elaborate on. 1. Guns, sabers...there are times to use either one. I don't think one is better than the other *all* the time. I think it's been proven by you and several others that sometimes one wins out over the other, and vice versa. You have a preference to guns, and your response to this will say as such. No big deal. Different people like to use different things. 2. If JA and a large contingent of its members were interested in taking non-saber classes, I'm sure the public opinion would swing that way and the upper management (if you will) would have to seriously take that into consideration. But keep this in mind (and make sure to read some of my other posts) that this is supposed to mimic the "real" (right - just go with me on this one) Jedi Academy in the movies. As I've said before in my previous posts, the members of that Academy did not mess with guns. Not a question. A fact. And I would assume [people correct me if I'm wrong] a significant number of the JA membership like the way it's run - in line with the original idea of a Jedi Academy. 3. If there are other members of the JA that are interested in learning proper gun usage - who knows; I may be one of them...hey I'm always open to new things - perhaps you can teach this stuff at a different location. I understand your desire for change, but I think you're swimming against the tide if you are trying to do it *inside* JA. And continuing to hammer at it here time and time again, I think, may just be counterproductive to your points...as good (or bad, depending upon how people look at them) may be. 4. You seem to miss what Zero bluntly said, and I more gently suggested. I think your understandible defensiveness is coming from people attacking you. You said this yourself. But, maybe they feel you are attacking them first. A good example is what you just mentioned to Silent Whisper. From my perspective, she posted with a 3 out of 10 (firebreathing-scale) mentioning that she thought you have been redundant in your discussions/posts. Not necessarily a positive post, no. But your response (and this is the important point here, so don't miss it please) was more of a 9 out of 10. To Mohawk, a 9.5 out of 10. Both times, you criticised the person's intelligence. The person may hit you with a squirt gun, but that doesn't mean you need to open up with a BAR. Although you may have not liked what they had to say, and since I'm pretty new here I don't know all the past history swirling around, I would offer that if you want people to listen a little more carefully to what you are saying, you may want to tone-down your typing...indeed, at the very least, argue back with them on the *points* of the discussion. Don't insult their intelligence. It's just that in all the posts I've read that have you in it, yours are the ones that are, well, the most testy. Sometimes, I've found that you can be down-right nasty. And I've been wondering why. So, did the chicken come before the egg? Or was it vice-versa? Are people responding in ways to you that cause you to be defensive 1st, or are you yourself saying things that get the *other people* defensive 1st. It's a two-way street, remember. Again, I respect the points you are trying to get across, and may or may not agree with some of them. But we should limit our posts and comments to the topic, the discussion - the argument, sometimes - at hand. Not *go after* one another and attack the person making the comments. I look forward to your comments on this matter. -rh _______________ Back from the dead... |
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Buzz - Student 
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Actually when I do toy with guns I prefer to fight guns with guns and saber with saber. Thanks for being the most obvious guy around on the idea that a saber isn't very useful when fighting someone that is just going to run away. Its the same way when the other person has a saber too. The only difference is that niether person is going to get any hits. I said someone that knows how to fight using saber vs guns would do well. I didn't say I was that person. My personal opinion is you want to play with guns go play quake 3 or unreal tournament. I'm honestly not that interested in guns only or ctf except on rare occasions. And I'm really not interested at all in fighting you.
To get back to what this thread was about, What's more important to me is to have fun playing with other people than being the best at the game and needing to prove it all the time. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
Buzz, you're welcome to have a go as well, if you wish. I was 'lecturin' on what I've learned to be true when it comes to ctf. Not ffa in general. Insaniac challenged me and I accepted. We played and I won. If he had played differently then so would I. The point I originally was trying to state is that a saber is definitely useless in a game where the opponent most likely will try to run away from you (pull will not work, since it will be absorbed).
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Buzz - Student
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You know Pepsi I understand what redundant means just fine. Your pointing out its definitions just makes it redundant. I think SW should have said redundantly pointless. You like to keep on bringing back up the same arguments. And when you say them they are arguments. The way you bring them out are harsh and abrasive. I even agree with you on a few things here and there, but they way you say things I want to just take the other side so I don't get associated with you. I was there when you were being pmed by the JAT. You never once said "please don't pm me I'm trying to defrag my computer"
I was in there today watching yours and insaniacs battle. What I saw was you using guns and Force well and Insaniac using mostly his saber with occasional Force. I saw a problem with his tactics in fighting you though. I think that someone that knows how to fight a person using guns with a lightsaber can beat a gun user. You can't fight someone with a gun the same way you fight a person with a saber. That's something that needs to be learned. A lot of us like using lightsabers. That's why we're playing JK2 and not Quake3. I'm sure there are some great ctf players in that game that switched over to JK2. I don't find it the least bit surprising people are telling you to shut up. You come off as being smug and insulting and that you are better than other players. Have you considered asking the trainer to talk after class and saying that you have a different idea of how to do things? You want to cause change? Its not a very good way to go about causing change by coming in here saying "That's wrong this is wrong, you're doing this wrong. This is the way it all should be." I have heard of other people not liking the way somethings are done around here. I think they had two choices. Get out or move up the ladder as it is and when you reach a position high enough bring suggestions for change to the people. Not every trainer became a trainer solely on Saber skills. Some got to be trainers to teach with guns as well. They aren't going around on the forums or in profile comments complaining about the way things are done. There are such things as giving personal training too. I don't know how much time you spend on the servers but there are initiates and learners and journeymen helping other students learn a few things. No one is yelling at them to shut up and saying they can't teach. If you want tips how to not come off as a jerk while voicing your opinions just look at Ruuk's post. He's nice he's polite he has an understanding of both sides of an argument. Change takes time. From my understanding the comments about putting some more emphasis on ctf and gun games came up just recently in the meeting. You can't expect everyone to immediately agree to the way something like this should be done and it takes immediate effect. Learn some patience. They're trying to get some more servers. Maybe one of them will even be a precious all ctf server so people can learn on it. Unless you have a spare server laying around I suggest you learn to wait. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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NofrikinfuN - Retired 
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You've gone over bowing, respect in the academy and other related topics... And each one seems to explain how you're some kind of a CTF god. I believe those are the redundancies Whispy was referring to. As for your attitude, it sucks. You should note that you're being watched closely for possible disciplinary action. That could mean a banning. Check the attitude at the door please. |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
I'm still waiting for the explanation. Redundant in what way?
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Silent Whisper - Retired 
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Wow I love being right all the time. _______________ "I have learned from Vergere only that there is no such thing as sides of the Force....for the side is merely a reflection of your intentions of the Force. Use it in hate, and it will be hate. Use it offensively in good, and you will find my Truth." -Jacen Solo, "Traitor", New Jedi Order |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
Silent Whisper:
Do you mean redundant in ways of superfluous, excessive or repetitive? You should try using more accurate terms, so that we all can understand exactly what you mean without anybody having to turn macroverbumsciolist on us. Now go find your dictionary so you can learn a new word today. Zero: Will do. Ruuk Haaviser: It's nice to hear you've been well accepted into the academy and you feel you've found your home for online gaming. To keep this brief (so as to not become superfluous) I can only point to my other posts here on the forums where I bring up issues that are not well thought of. Like using guns, for instant. The problem with the posts seem to be that people who are not the least bit interested in using guns tell me that "sabers beat guns" and that I should leave the academy since I'm such a trouble maker, whereafter I insist on pointing out any academy's need to change with time, and the fact that I have something to contribute with that te academy is currently missing. Just read the posts. You'll get the picture. Oh. And welcome.
Gun on! /Pepsi |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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WOW, you guys write some long things...Wish I had that much to say _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. |
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Ruuk Haviser - Retired 
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Since I'm new here, and had some very interesting things happen to me tonight on KS, I thought ya'll might like to hear them and how they relate to this tread.
Yes, this is a game. Everyone knows that. (Sometimes things get kinda hazy tho cause you're interacting/playing in a 3d environment!) The reason why I became so interested in joining JA was: 1) enjoy playing fps; 2) love star wars, in all its permutations; 3) find the idea of being honorable in real life and online pretty important. I used to play Halflife/Counterstrike online, and there seemed to be something missing. Everyone out to do their own thing..."get theirs"...very selfish. (I wasn't in any clan, so I don't have any experience with that, and hence, am sure I missed something.) But still, before I finally (everyone stop laughing) was able to get on KS tonight, I had played a couple servers outside JA...and found the experience different. Wasn't like Counterstrike. Seemed like (most) people did indeed respect one another, even tho it was outside JA. And tonight, when I got on KS, I quickly realized that respecting and honoring your fellow comrades-in-arms definitely isn't a joke. Most of you practice what you preach. And I appreciated that. Being new here, it's kinda overwhelming and being "shown the ropes" by a few of you helped out a lot. Although, I didn't realize that an on-line initiation came with an on-line good ol' fraternity butt kickin'... you know who you are...
Anyway, my point being that I find the "Jedi honor" aspect missing from many on-line games (heck, real life even), and it's nice to commingle with individuals that will treat you fairly...and even try to show you around and help you get better. I don't, and wouldn't, expect *everyone* to act this way. But just knowing that you're in a more friendly - read "honorable" - environment makes the game that much more enjoyable to play. So, Pepsi, do what you will. Enjoy playing the game the way you like to play it. I'm sure many people will respect your decision. And I'll respect your opinions, just as though I hope you'd respect mine and others. But, I *would* just humbly ask for maybe a little less pointedness and, well, sometimes even fire breathing in your posts. I'm sure that's just your direct personality coming out, and again, I respect that, but you gotta understand that some people might misinterpret your remarks, at times, as being very *challenging* rather than just being very blunt and direct, to the point. [This is not a challenge, not a threat, just constructive criticism... I'd expect the same from anyone else of me. And after this post, ya'll have at it.] JA is a (semi-) democracy, and the majority of the people I've observed and run into here feel Jedi Honor is something to be proud of. If at any point in time that you believe JA is going in a way you don't like, I'm sure there are ways to express this (like here) and possibly enact change. But if the majority of the people believe a certain way...well, they *are* the majority, and in a (semi-) democratic situation like this, majority does indeed rule. If at any time you feel uncomfortable with the surroundings and environment here, and the members are not partial to changing what they believe in, you may find it easier to merely slide over to a different academy, group, or clan. I'm sure there are others out there that feel exactly the same way you do, and wouldn't feel completely comfortable in JA. (And since they're NOT here, maybe that in and of itself is saying something.) But if you don't want to do that, and enjoy it here (faults and all), then that is fine too. It's your decision. No one's going to force you to bow. But recognize that that's part of the general culture here, and some people (as they did) might get offended. Just respect their right to get offended, explain your position, and they'll have to reciprocate and respect your position. We're all different...no big deal. If we learn to appreciate each other's differences, maybe the REAL world would be a much better place to live. Sorry for such a long comment...got a little carried away. -rh _______________ Back from the dead... |
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Silent Whisper - Retired
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Is it me or are all of your posts a bit redundant, Pepsi? _______________ "I have learned from Vergere only that there is no such thing as sides of the Force....for the side is merely a reflection of your intentions of the Force. Use it in hate, and it will be hate. Use it offensively in good, and you will find my Truth." -Jacen Solo, "Traitor", New Jedi Order |
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Zero Akaine - Student 
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Pepsi: please dont insult ppl when you talk to them... i dont mined you responding in any way but dont insult them. _______________ Padawan of Ryo Akaine Master to Aphex,Skyler,Doppelganger, and GremReaper. |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
Dearest Mr. Mohawk. You're being upset when I suggest changes, and you I never said I wanted 'the good stuff' without any work. I was simply implying that I'm better than most when it comes to ctf, and I would like to see more classes on it in the academy, since I know it's an area where many of the ppl here at TJA could need improving to not get "utterly destroyed" (sareds words, not mine) on ctf servers. I can teach that better than most (since I am better than most, ctf guns that is. I still get pretty owned in duels), so why not let me? Real academies have gues lecturers, and if one of the students is know to excel at one subject they are often asked to give lectures and demonstrations. Why can't we do this in TJA? I personally believe it's because of the hierarchy (which I think should be scrapped totally with exception for trainer trial), where ppl are told to "do as the JAK says" or whatever. This works nicely in classes where the JAK is really good, but less good in classes where the JAK (or JAT) doesn't have a clue on how to handle a class in the subject at hand (I'll make an exception here and mention Zero by name). It's a bit like asking a nun to participate in a porn flick. Even if they try they just won't fit in very well (shush, perverts, you know what I mean). The problem with the academy thing is that ppl DO listen blindly to the JAK's and JAT's and if somebody knows a better way to do something, they are told to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up or they will be kicked (zero again) or have class points removed. All I did was offer to assist with ctf and guns classes, since I know that area much better than most of the ppl that ARE JAT or JAK (silly names, but still). As with any other class, this would be voluntary, so don't show up if you don't like ctf. Now. How does that make me want 'the good stuff without any work' if I offer to help train ppl in ctf classes? I wasn't at all interested in saberfighting when I first joined. I thought the tempo was slower than glacial (compared to ctf, I still think it is), but I've found out is has its own charm. Why can't you be equally openminded to new ideas and new ways of doing things?
As for JAK (it was a JAK) shoving the rulebook in my face other places than classes I can tell you it was on irc where I misunderstood a person who complained about other ppl on the servers and wanted them kicked. He said, and I quote "There are gunwhores running around on the server", I said "so shoot them" and hell broke loose. Ppl keep dueling outside, and I thought they had gotten shot while getting in the middle of a guns ffa thingie and I explained this in the public channel when all the sudden a JAK (no names) kept /msg'ing me and telling me to shut the fuck up and not be so stupid. This would all have been fine and dandy except for the fact that I was defragging and every new logfile made it start over. It pissed me off a bit, so I asked the JAK(ass) to stop msging me, but he slammed the so called rules in my face and told me (in a new private msg) that these things were to be kept private. He never asked me why I didn't want him to pm me, so I told him again not to do it, and then I ignored him. That sort of behaviour is not only rude, it's thickwitted as well. Let's see. What more stupidity did you waste energy on mentioning. Ah, yes. As for the dry theory bit (which was a quote, and not originally my saying) I was merely implying a different way to do things that would be easier for the JAT's, funnier for the students and more efficient for the academy. Or so I thought. The council didn't think it was a good idea so they decided not to implement it with the reason 'Nobody would read it' which is sort of funny, since this is, as you said a voluntary school. So... Are you done making a beautiful example of pure boneheaded stubborness and disgruntlement, or shall we continue this moronic side of the discussions around the perfectly legitimate question (as if any question could be anything but legitimate) of mine? Ioshee: I am SO happy to see your name among the comments. Not only do you amuse me with your good wits, but you also bring forth new arguments in a civilized manner. I should learn from you, I think (no sarcasm, believe it or not). You say the academy is both a community and an academy. In that case I think it's the academy part of it I think is 'flawed' so to speak, since the forums seem to be more frequently posted on here than any other place I've seen, and ppl seem to know each other by name and/or tags. Success for the community, but the academy might need improving. History proves me right, I believe, since a conservative academy scarcely is more than a gentlemans club. Or, if worse comes to worst, a professional basket ball team. Trebizond: Thank you for playing. I try my very best to have as much fun as I can with and within the academy, but if the toy is broken in your favourite part, you need to fix it before you can play with it the way you want. About the bowing I just want to point out that those of you who want me to bow can only make me by earning my respect. Insaniac did so today, as we settled our little disagreement on guns vs sabers (for those interested I might add that he lost pretty bad, but came out wiser after the shift of paradigm and complimented me for playing well, thus keeping his head high and not losing face). Nofrikinfun: For the academys sake I hope you're right, but I think it's gotten a bit too much into dueling and using sabers. If this is what everybody wants, then all is fine, but some of the students I've spoken to on irc and on servers have asked me to do ctf classes, since they're curious about what it is. This is, if you ask me, a bad thing, since all such questions should be answered competently by staff or knights or whatever here in the academy without being asked. Or maybe even put them in the FAQ. Anyways. I sure hope this fits in the "hall of fame of the long posts", or I'll give up.....
Cheers, and gun on! /Pepsi This comment was edited by Pepsi on Feb 19 2003 11:29pm. |
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Trebizond - Ex-Student 
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Ooooh, there's a little bit of temper coming out here, isn't there? :p I understand what everyone is saying, especially about a slightly more 'real' universe for some.
All I'm thinking is, I enjoy the Star Wars universe, although I'm certainly not going to make love in a Chewbacca outfit or queue 2 years for the next film. To me, its a good story, and it entertains me. The reason I joined the JA is because I enjoy the game I have, and I want to enjoy it in a mature atmosphere. I'm not wanting to cast aspersion on anyone's take. . . but I think you should treat the JA like you should treat life. . . do the things you like, do them with people you like, and do them in a way so that you don't offend or hurt people. Is that so hard? As for the bowing thing, I'm having trouble with that one. Basically, its the way things are done. I'm a little concerned about what you have to make sure everyone knows about your RL interests. I may enjoy attaching postage stamps to small dogs and posting them to Kansas, but I don't feel the need to tell everyone about it, or use it as a reason to behave in a certain way. All of us here are here for only one thing. . . distraction. I'm wondering why you feel the need to bring baggage here with you? take it easy Treb **AFTER DELETING EXCESS MESSAGES I might well have a point, but it hardly needs repeating forty-odd times :p Had a bit of fun with my 'puter sticking on the send screen. Sorry to offend your delicate aesthetic sensibilites, Buzz ** _______________ "He asked us 'Be you angels?' and we said 'Nay! We are but Men!'" This comment was edited by Trebizond on Feb 19 2003 05:48pm. |
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