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How to Handle Lamers and Such
Jun 15 2004 10:56pm

Tido
 - Student
Tido
Thanks to Jacen Aratan, Katan, Motrec, and Virtue for their guidance in writing this.

It is a great thing that we have the JAK+ to keep the peace on the servers so we may go about our business and have fun. Unfortunately there are times when a JAK+ is not on the server, and someone has chosen to take advantage of their absence. In these situations the JAS/JAP are ‘on their own’ (but not really as we will see) to deal with the situation.

First off you should take this time to review the rules to refresh you on what situations require attention.

As JAS/JAP, we have no authority to discipline those who break the rules. Doing so could possibly put yourself in trouble if you make a mistake. It is fine to make friendly suggestions to other students about their conduct, but under no means should you scold or reprimand them. Your #1 goal when inappropriate situations arise is to avoid conflict. Leave the disciplinary job to the JAK+.



When you witness a rule being broken and the offender has no intention of changing his course of action (ie it wasn’t an accident, you ask him to stop and he continues, etc) then 2 things need to happen:

1. A student needs to take the role of capturing credible evidence (recorded demos, screenshots, condumps – this will be covered below) of the rules being broken.
2. A second student should get the attention of a JAK+ to come and handle the situation. If one is not in the server then that student should go to IRC and get a ranked member. Once a JAK+ arrives and begins to address the situation you should detach yourself from the situation and let the JAK+ handle it.

If you and the offender are the only ones in the server, you should stay to record their actions. Plead, don’t command that person to cease what they are doing, but continue to capture proof of their actions.



To record evidence your tools will be screenshot, condump, and recording demos.

screenshot: In your usual setup, make sure you have a button bound to the command ‘screenshot’ (ex: bind f12 screenshot) so that you may quickly take a picture of the action. Screenshots are saved as JPGs into your jk3 directory (usually under gamedata/reload/screenshots/ if you were playing on a JA server). If you need to take a picture of the console, pull it down (~), scroll to the part you need to capture (pg up/dwn), and then type ‘screenshot’ in the console. Don’t hesitate to take a lot of pictures – you can decide which ones are the most relevant later.

condump: This command takes all the information that is in your console (all the chats that have happened, all the events) and exports it to a TXT file. To use this, type in your console /condump <txtname> without the <>.

record: Recording a demo makes a DM26 file. Basically this is a file that can be loaded in jk3 and will play back your recording. To start recording a demo, type in your console /g_sync 1; record; g_sync 0 and to stop type /stoprecord (its very helpful to use a CFG script to do this).



Once you have collected all this, e-mail it to Aron or Buzz, or if you feel it is needed, another Council Member.

To get an e-mail address from someone’s profile: go to their profile and click the link of their username. That link is to their e-mail address.

Once you have done this you do not need to involve yourself in the situation any further. In fact it is in your best interest to avoid the situation as best as you can. Do not discuss the events with your fellow students, as that starts the rumor mill which is extremely unfair to the victims of it. Please avoid reporting your opinion – just state the facts.



It is terrible that anyone may get in trouble here. When it happens, it is very tragic and sad, but it is a necessity to ensure a functioning JA for the rest of us. By handling situations as illustrated above, you can ensure justice without escalading the problem.



This post was edited by Virtue on Oct 31 2005 04:17am.

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Oct 19 2004 12:29pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Voting could go wrong. Still, nice idea. :D

Oct 19 2004 12:24pm

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 - Ex-Student

:alliance:Well some servers have the Voting options. I was in a FoG server (which is where I used to hang out before I joined the academy) and alot of lamers showed up and kept laming but it was so funny to hear them crying after we vote to sleep them. :D
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Oct 06 2004 03:09am

TaxiMan
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 TaxiMan

Good ideaz, thanks, im having problems with a lamer myself....thanks. :alliance:
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Aug 05 2004 02:02pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

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what up *you silly guys*

*shower me with praise! I can color!*

*I AM A HAM RADIO*

*edited by DJ censormatic*


I am a ham radio?!

That is NO DOUBT the funniest sentence I have ever heard!
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Aug 04 2004 11:12pm

Italian Ice
 - Student
 Italian Ice

lol the censormatic is the best invention of all times
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Jul 28 2004 01:40am

Lego[DEAD]
 - Ex-Student
 Lego[DEAD]

what up *you silly guys*

*shower me with praise! I can color!*

*I AM A HAM RADIO*

*edited by DJ censormatic*
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This comment was edited by DJ Sith on Jul 28 2004 02:13am.

Jul 04 2004 09:17pm

Thomasooo
 - Student
 Thomasooo

Yeah! Nice post! Really helpful! :)
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Jul 04 2004 07:48pm

Lego[DEAD]
 - Ex-Student
 Lego[DEAD]

challenge teh lamer to a dool and own him/her then make phun of em ..roofls

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Jul 02 2004 04:59am

Dammerung
 - Student

This is really cool, Tido! This is exactly what a lot of JAS/JAP's should know in those sort of situations. I'm really thankful you went out of your way to get this info out!
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Jul 02 2004 02:30am

Tido
 - Student
 Tido

:D

Jul 02 2004 12:46am

Jade
 - Student
 Jade

:DYIPPEEE!!!!!!

Tido's made the permanent comments bit.....Hurray!!!!

Comments deserve to be here anyway...nice one

:P:D:P
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Jun 17 2004 03:25pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Awesome work Tido. :)

Would be nice as perm! :D

I learned a new command as well! :D

Jun 17 2004 12:31am

Jade
 - Student
 Jade

This is excellent stuff. JAC's if you're listening...can we make this post permanent somewhere on the site. The content is priceless!

btw Tido...another nice job done!

:P:D:P
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Jun 16 2004 11:49pm

Lancer007
 - Student
 Lancer007

this is awsome info tido! :D

Jun 16 2004 09:45pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

well... This is good information... Maybe we should do something with it?

Already on it, it's on my to-do list to add Squib :D
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Jun 16 2004 09:31am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

that wont help, coz noone is looking at the rules. :(


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Jun 16 2004 08:19am

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

So....
We don't just point at them and laugh because we know the're gunna be banned ???

damn :P

Good job Tido

How bout putting this or at least parts of this under the rules on the rules page ?
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Jun 16 2004 05:54am

Ashyr
 - Student
 Ashyr

Wow. Good Job Tido, you covered it all ;)
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Jun 16 2004 05:22am

Anakin Skywalker
 - Ex-Student
 Anakin Skywalker

Nice job Tido. Congratulations.
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Jun 16 2004 05:05am

Mace Windu
 - Retired
 Mace Windu

hmm..
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Jun 16 2004 03:52am

Janus
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 Janus

*claps in approval* Nicely put Tido, awesome awesome job....
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Jun 16 2004 12:37am

Katan
 - Student
 Katan

Good job Tido ;)



Hey you JAStaff or JAC's, maybe perm this sucker at some point? :)
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Jun 15 2004 11:52pm

Battlin' Billy
 - Student
 Battlin' Billy

Great post Tido!!! You da man!!!
:)

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Jun 15 2004 11:35pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

Nice post.

I just want to say again what Tido already said, kind of:

When you see someone making trouble, don't go over there pointing your finger and making a show out of it.
Try to have the person in case REALIZE WHY he is wrong.

Some of our finest students, and even JAK+ have been spotted "making trouble" once in a while. Remember: Some. Not all ;)

It is ALWAYS better to talk it over and keep getting along.

Jun 15 2004 11:31pm

Hardwired
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 Hardwired

Excellent post...

/me gives Tid0 a goldstar...:)
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