How to Handle Lamers and Such | |
Tido - Student |
Thanks to Jacen Aratan, Katan, Motrec, and Virtue for their guidance in writing this. It is a great thing that we have the JAK+ to keep the peace on the servers so we may go about our business and have fun. Unfortunately there are times when a JAK+ is not on the server, and someone has chosen to take advantage of their absence. In these situations the JAS/JAP are ‘on their own’ (but not really as we will see) to deal with the situation. First off you should take this time to review the rules to refresh you on what situations require attention. As JAS/JAP, we have no authority to discipline those who break the rules. Doing so could possibly put yourself in trouble if you make a mistake. It is fine to make friendly suggestions to other students about their conduct, but under no means should you scold or reprimand them. Your #1 goal when inappropriate situations arise is to avoid conflict. Leave the disciplinary job to the JAK+. When you witness a rule being broken and the offender has no intention of changing his course of action (ie it wasn’t an accident, you ask him to stop and he continues, etc) then 2 things need to happen: 1. A student needs to take the role of capturing credible evidence (recorded demos, screenshots, condumps – this will be covered below) of the rules being broken. 2. A second student should get the attention of a JAK+ to come and handle the situation. If one is not in the server then that student should go to IRC and get a ranked member. Once a JAK+ arrives and begins to address the situation you should detach yourself from the situation and let the JAK+ handle it. If you and the offender are the only ones in the server, you should stay to record their actions. Plead, don’t command that person to cease what they are doing, but continue to capture proof of their actions. To record evidence your tools will be screenshot, condump, and recording demos. screenshot: In your usual setup, make sure you have a button bound to the command ‘screenshot’ (ex: bind f12 screenshot) so that you may quickly take a picture of the action. Screenshots are saved as JPGs into your jk3 directory (usually under gamedata/reload/screenshots/ if you were playing on a JA server). If you need to take a picture of the console, pull it down (~), scroll to the part you need to capture (pg up/dwn), and then type ‘screenshot’ in the console. Don’t hesitate to take a lot of pictures – you can decide which ones are the most relevant later. condump: This command takes all the information that is in your console (all the chats that have happened, all the events) and exports it to a TXT file. To use this, type in your console /condump <txtname> without the <>. record: Recording a demo makes a DM26 file. Basically this is a file that can be loaded in jk3 and will play back your recording. To start recording a demo, type in your console /g_sync 1; record; g_sync 0 and to stop type /stoprecord (its very helpful to use a CFG script to do this). Once you have collected all this, e-mail it to Aron or Buzz, or if you feel it is needed, another Council Member. To get an e-mail address from someone’s profile: go to their profile and click the link of their username. That link is to their e-mail address. Once you have done this you do not need to involve yourself in the situation any further. In fact it is in your best interest to avoid the situation as best as you can. Do not discuss the events with your fellow students, as that starts the rumor mill which is extremely unfair to the victims of it. Please avoid reporting your opinion – just state the facts. It is terrible that anyone may get in trouble here. When it happens, it is very tragic and sad, but it is a necessity to ensure a functioning JA for the rest of us. By handling situations as illustrated above, you can ensure justice without escalading the problem. This post was edited by Virtue on Oct 31 2005 04:17am. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master |
Voting could go wrong. Still, nice idea. |
. - Ex-Student |
Well some servers have the Voting options. I was in a FoG server (which is where I used to hang out before I joined the academy) and alot of lamers showed up and kept laming but it was so funny to hear them crying after we vote to sleep them. _______________ 4/20/2005----Left the academy because I did'nt feel welcomed. |
TaxiMan - Student |
Good ideaz, thanks, im having problems with a lamer myself....thanks. _______________ "Its a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. But its the honest men you have to watch out for, cause you never know when they are going to do somthing, Stupid." |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
Quote: what up *you silly guys* *shower me with praise! I can color!* *I AM A HAM RADIO* *edited by DJ censormatic* I am a ham radio?! That is NO DOUBT the funniest sentence I have ever heard! _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here. |
Italian Ice - Student |
lol the censormatic is the best invention of all times _______________ It's funny how many people know they have the right to remain silent, yet never do. |
Lego[DEAD] - Ex-Student |
what up *you silly guys* *shower me with praise! I can color!* *I AM A HAM RADIO* *edited by DJ censormatic* _______________ AHH YOU ARE ALL NICE LADS This comment was edited by DJ Sith on Jul 28 2004 02:13am. |
Thomasooo - Student |
Yeah! Nice post! Really helpful! _______________ In the navy and LOVING it! Recipient of comment no. 1000 and heart-warming words from Ataris! |
Lego[DEAD] - Ex-Student |
challenge teh lamer to a dool and own him/her then make phun of em ..roofls _______________ AHH YOU ARE ALL NICE LADS |
Dammerung - Student |
This is really cool, Tido! This is exactly what a lot of JAS/JAP's should know in those sort of situations. I'm really thankful you went out of your way to get this info out! _______________ "It's over Anakin! This high ground adds +5 to my agility!" "HAX!" |
Tido - Student |
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Jade - Student |
YIPPEEE!!!!!! Tido's made the permanent comments bit.....Hurray!!!! Comments deserve to be here anyway...nice one _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
Setementor - Jedi Master |
Awesome work Tido. Would be nice as perm! I learned a new command as well! |
Jade - Student |
This is excellent stuff. JAC's if you're listening...can we make this post permanent somewhere on the site. The content is priceless! btw Tido...another nice job done! _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
Lancer007 - Student |
this is awsome info tido! |
Bail Hope of Belouve - Student |
well... This is good information... Maybe we should do something with it? Already on it, it's on my to-do list to add Squib _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here. |
Fizz of Belouve - Student |
that wont help, coz noone is looking at the rules. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
Squibit - Student |
So.... We don't just point at them and laugh because we know the're gunna be banned ??? damn Good job Tido How bout putting this or at least parts of this under the rules on the rules page ? _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once |
Ashyr - Student |
Wow. Good Job Tido, you covered it all _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
Anakin Skywalker - Ex-Student |
Nice job Tido. Congratulations. _______________ I killed them. I killed them all. They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too! They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals! I HATE THEM! One day I will be the strongest Jedi ever, I will even know how to bring poeple back from death. |
Mace Windu - Retired |
hmm.. _______________ -Mace Windu "When a fool says something foolish, do not answer the fool." -Windu To Vladarion, though I know you are in a better place - it makes me shake to think that you are not awake - when I think about you it makes me smile - i know you have gone into the clouds to head for heavens gates - you have changed my life - in an incredible way - and so I say thank you - may you rest in peace |
Janus - Retired |
*claps in approval* Nicely put Tido, awesome awesome job.... _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
Katan - Student |
Good job Tido Hey you JAStaff or JAC's, maybe perm this sucker at some point? _______________ |
Battlin' Billy - Student |
Great post Tido!!! You da man!!! _______________ Midbie Council Member #2 - Profile ID 2073 | Member of B@rtM@ulS@ar | Owner of Monty's 2000th comment & D@RtHM@UL's 8100th comment | Former Padawan of SilkMonkey & Arcuss JA Goaltender & NHL Fan | Fellow Rush fan to Axion|Plo Koon is my oldest JA friend Post your RL pics HERE! | Post you JK2/JK3 screenies HERE! |
Aron - Retired |
Nice post. I just want to say again what Tido already said, kind of: When you see someone making trouble, don't go over there pointing your finger and making a show out of it. Try to have the person in case REALIZE WHY he is wrong. Some of our finest students, and even JAK+ have been spotted "making trouble" once in a while. Remember: Some. Not all It is ALWAYS better to talk it over and keep getting along. |
Hardwired - Retired |
Excellent post... /me gives Tid0 a goldstar... _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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