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Jul 01 2004 01:41am

Koyi Donita
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Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible.
Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing.

I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth.

May God bless us all through his wonderful Word.

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For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE

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Thank you Darth Mobility.

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Aug 17 2005 04:46am

Koyi Donita
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I'm sorry to say this, but I just don't see that at all compared to what I read in the New Testament. Let me share some scriptures that come to mind when I think of the total cohesiveness of the whole Bible.

In Romans 2:25-29 we read:
25) For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26) Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27) And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

In Romans 4:1-3, 13-16 we read:
1) What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3) For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
13) For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14) For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15) Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16) Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

In Romans 9:1-6 we read:
1) I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2) That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3) For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4) Who are Israelites; to who pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5) Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6) Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Now these scriptures to me seem to be pulling from the old testament and bringing the important facts into light namely that God had alot going on with in His written law that they just didn't see because they were reading and following it to the letter. Probably much of which I am doing the same thing.

Anyhow, God's truths and lessons were there, just more or less in parable form and not in plain language where someone can read a couple of verses and say this is exactly what God is saying. Many of these New Testament scriptures pull us directly back into the Old Testament and bring to light alot of what God was really trying to say and do but those who had eyes didn't see and those who had ears didn't hear.

I could be wrong, but this is how I feel toward these as well as other scriptures relating to the Old Testament.

I'll look into the Thou shalt not kill commandment because I actually studied that along time ago but I can't find any of my notes anywhere. :/ There are alot of other scriptures God gave us following that commandment that brought more light and truth to it and I don't believe it was as cut and dry as they couldn't kill Jews but everyone else was okay. If memory serves me correctly, the Jews got slaughtered every time they tried to kill without God's expressed command to kill/raise/plunder the lands in which they were to inhabit.

To DJ, as far as my Bible goes, God commanded His people Israel to enter into the promise land and to kill off the inhabitance there within. God in most cases wanted all men, women, and childred utterly destroyed along with cattle, homes, crops, good. Everything was to be destroyed and those who broke this met their end for disobeying God's command. I'll look for some nice scriptures that highlight these battles, but it is true that alot of the wars were fought defensively against kings and nation of those lands trying to stop their progress.

Aug 16 2005 08:06am

DJ Sith
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As an example, under the old covenant, Jews were allowed to kill anyone APART FROM JEWS. The "Thou shalt not kill" applied to killing another person from the nation of Israel, but it didn't apply to non-Jews, they could kill them, as is clearly seen in the number of battles Israel had with God's 'backing'

Got a quote from the OT backing that up? I'd never heard of limitations put on "Thou shall not kill" in the Torah or Talmud. Most of the early Jewish wars were defensive wars, repelling evil invaders and whatnot (thats what I was taught in sunday school anyways).
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Aug 15 2005 10:44am

JamesF1
- Student

Take another look. Read the Old Testament carefully - it was a covenant God made with the Jews. Gentiles were never part of that covenant - even though certain aspects are - as you rightly say - good for teaching and edifying. I believe the Old Testament is the unchanging word of God, but it also has to be seen for what it is - a covenant with Israel.

Jesus preached a covenant for all man-kind, a much different covenant, based on the ultimate sacrifice - Himself. Now things are different. As an example, under the old covenant, Jews were allowed to kill anyone APART FROM JEWS. The "Thou shalt not kill" applied to killing another person from the nation of Israel, but it didn't apply to non-Jews, they could kill them, as is clearly seen in the number of battles Israel had with God's 'backing' (God can't go against his word, so the "Thou shalt not kill", obviously only applied to killing Jews - as if a Jew killed a Jew, they were stoned). Now, however, we have a new covenant - Jesus said even *thinking* about killing someone is as bad as murder, and its not for the Jews only, its for everyone.

So, I do believe that the Old Testament and the New Testament are different, but the Old Testament still does have a certain degree of relevance for teaching and edifying today, even if not to the same degree as those principles held for the Jews.

Sorry if this makes little sense, I'm very tired

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Aug 14 2005 07:25pm

Koyi Donita
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I do understand the grace factor, but I can say I really agree with the whole old covenant theory. Alot of people believe that they are two seperate covenants, two different teachings, two different books for two different people. I don't believe in this because of a few scriptures that I will try to locate the exact locations of in the near future.

1) All scripture is profitable for the teaching, edification, etc.,
2) Holy men of old spoke as God the Holy Spirit moved them.
3) From before the foundation of the world God chose His elect whom He would save.

Even in the old testament we have verses saying bring my gospel to the whole world. The old people who would be under the old covenant would have then been commanded to bring the gospel to the world, but God didn't open their eyes so they could see this truth that His Word wasn't for them alone. This commandment is true and rings forth into our worship today and that makes me a strong believer in the fact that the old testament and the first covenant were all shadows or parables if you will of what God has planned for His true believers at any point in our history. Just my belief and a few reasons why. God illustated in a few spots in the old testament that things were signs or shadows pointing to something else. They have no real substance in themselves like the sabbath day which pointed to the fact the it is God the Lord who sanctifies us and makes us holy. The whole 7th day sabbath pointed to His work as in the work He does to save us. This woman would (in my eyes) be under the commandment of having the gospel but no messenger who gave her God's Word until the Lord Jesus' very own words graced her. In that moment she probably recieved the blessing of salvation for I believe there is scriptures God gives us telling us that He has deaf ears toward the unsaved or something to that effect. Possibly in the psalms? He probably ignored her at first to show us this work that He did in her right there in that instant. The language of calling her a dog is uncommon to me as well which really confuses me, but leaves open another great study for another time.

Aug 14 2005 06:16pm

JamesF1
- Student

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I'm finding it difficult to see what God is trying to teach out of this lesson

No real lesson, only grace. The reason Jesus didn't initially do anything, was because she was not a Jew - and, under the old covenant (which was still in place at that time, legally), salvation was of the Jews. However, Jesus came to change that, and when he saw within her that she had grasped one of the fundamental truths of the kingdom, he reached out to her. That truth being that salvation is no longer only of the Jews, but of the Gentiles as well.
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Aug 14 2005 05:36pm

Koyi Donita
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That is a really moving scripture. I really liked that one alot. One scripture that I read recently was the one were the woman approached Jesus asking Him to heal her daughter. He ignored her and His disciples asked if they should send her away because of the scene she was making. She asked again and Jesus responded that it wouldn't be proper to give the childrens food to the dogs. She responded by saying that His statement was true, but the dogs do feed from the crumbs that fall from the table. With that, her faith made her daughter well.

I find this story very interesting because Jesus is Lord God and His disciples are the children of God. He would be refering to this woman and her child as dogs then being unfit to feed from what belongs to the saved. We can also find in the Bible that it is Christ's faithfulness that saves us from our sin, His free gift of grace. I'm finding it difficult to see what God is trying to teach out of this lesson, but it is a fasinating scripture too because it's almost along the same lines of the first. Grace is awarded to the undiserving and we should never loose sight of this.

Thank you for sharing that scripture with us.

Aug 14 2005 01:06pm

JamesF1
- Student

Something struck me the other day, reading the story of the alduteress woman (found in John 8). Jesus said "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone..." and then, as we know, all of the Pharisees and those waiting to stone her, left.

Now, this is what struck me, the only one without sin there was Jesus, he would have been right and perfectly justified to stone her, right there, and then. Especially considering that Israel was still under the old covanent. BUT, Jesus showed grace to her, grace that defied the Pharisees AND the culture of the day - he said to her "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?". She said, "No one, Lord." Then he said, "Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more."

That just struck me as powerful, and a perfect example of grace.
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Aug 14 2005 04:29am

Koyi Donita
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In Luke 20:27-38 we read:
27) Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,
28) Saying, Master, Moses wrote unto us, If any man's brother die, having a wife, and he die without children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
29) There were therefore seven brethen: and the first took a wife, and died without children.
30) And the second took her to wife, and he died childless.
31) And the third took her; and in like manner the seven also: and they left no children, and died.
32) Last of all the woman died also.
33) Therefore in the resurrection whose wife of them is she? for seven had her to wife.
34) And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35) But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36) Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels: and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
37) Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB.
38) For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him.

Now Mobility quoted some rather nice and important scripture which tell us that God only shows us a blurred image of what is to come in His Word and nor does He make us ignorant to it either.

In Revelation 21:1-5 we read:
1) And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2) And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3) And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4) And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Now in verse two we read that new Jerusalem, which can be shown to be the true believers in God His children the elect of God, will be prepared as a bride for her husband, which can be shown to be the Lord Jesus.

It is also taught in the Bible that the laws on marriage and the like are only for the living for when one dies, the other may remarry. Now maybe when God makes the former things pass away and make all new, maybe relationships will remain in a new way. It just seems to me especially with the language God has selected for us that when we die and either go to be with Him or are cast into hell, marriage will be no more. It's not clear for me to understand how one can be married and marry Christ when the new heavens and the new earth are made, but maybe I lack the understanding. Maybe what I read is too blurry for me to see a clear image of what is to come. This is all just food for thought and scriptures supporting what I believe. I knew of others that I would also like to share, but am having a difficult time remembering where I read them.

Please God bless the reading of His Word. May we all gain a clearer understanding of God's Word through Him opening our eyes and hearts bringing us closer to Him.

Amen.
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.

Aug 04 2005 05:11pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
- Student

Heaven! A comforting word is this! But who among us mortal creatures can envision its blessed reality? Neither the artist’s brush, the sculptor’s chisel, nor the theologian’s exegesis can depict the things which God hath prepared for them who love Him. The wonder, the glory, and the effulgence of the home of the redeemed will be seen only through the eyes of our glorified bodies when we awake in Christ’s likeness.

“Now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known” (1 Corinthians 13:12).

Still we are not left alone to grope in dark ignorance. A foretaste of glory divine has been preserved for us upon the pages of God’s eternal and unerring Word.

From bible.org

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Aug 04 2005 04:44pm

Lirael
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Aug 04 2005 03:26pm

Koyi Donita
- Student

Wow. This thread fell of the map for awhile.

Back to the topic of death, where the departed go, and the life after death, I just wanted to ask a question. Now it was in some people's opinions that life after death will not change but shall become infinately more glorious. That family will remain family, friends will remain friends and the like.

I remember Jesus telling a (Pharasee?) that when people die, they are no longer married or given in marrage but become like the angels or something to that effect. Another passage can tell us that angels are ministering spirits. I'll try to look these up and post them but I was hoping I could get some feed back if your familiar with these verses and what they mean to you as far as life after death is concerned.

Jun 15 2005 04:18pm

Koyi Donita
- Student

I just wanted to post that I have been currently reading through the Psalms and I am starting to feel a bit better. It's been awhile since I've done some serious reading. I want to read Chronicles although those names keep stopping me. I'm pretty sure I read all of the following books up to Psalms and I've even sung alot of them as well as flipping through the Bible at time and read a handful here and there as well. I was just wondering if anybody has actively been reading the Bible, what they've been reading, and what their thoughts on what they were reading was? One Psalm is screaming to me in particular and I will be discussing it shortly. Maybe after a small study and the completion of the rest of the Psalms before I get thrown off track.

Jun 07 2005 04:04pm

Koyi Donita
- Student

Not only that book, but what many say and believe about the Bible as well. Maybe even what I believe and try to teach! I do turn to the scriptures that I form my beliefs from however and discuss and search them out. Many just ignore or disreguard certain scriptures because it doesn't line up with their beliefs. I'm trying to find the divine thread or sewing if you will that binds all of the scriptures together and shows ultimate truth. I hope nobody here ever takes my words as truth. I only ask that you don't trust me, but the Bible and check out what I post against it's teachings. If you find me in the wrong, we can discuss and hopefully come to truth on subjects.

Yeah, but besides books and novels and shows and movies, just look inside our very own churches and congregations. You can find alot of things that are contrary to the Word of God yet those things are okay to those who do them so those things are okay. God gives us graphic pictures of what He did to His people when they strayed from His ways and people are like La Dee Da, God loves everyone and everything. The Bible also tells us the God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Just because there's a new covenant doesn't mean that God won't act in like manner toward those who polute His Word with their ideas and thoughts and practices. God is a merciful God but He has also shown us that His patience is long, but comes to an end sooner or later.

I myself might see this movie if it looks interesting at all just to know the subject to be able to discuss it, but I'm not worried about what it might do to the people or the "christian image". God saves through His Word the Bible with Him doing all the work. If those who are going to be snared by that book don't ever become believers, that's in God's best interest because He holds the power to save in His hands. Likewise, if people begin persecuting me and others because of what ever this book/movie suggests so be it. God warns the believers that He was persecuted in the person of Jesus and His followers would face the same. I personally am ready for anything that the world might throw at me because I can imagine some pretty aweful things that this world can come to and do any day now. With the world ticking towards it's end, we should try to make sure as many people as possible hears the gospel in hopes that God will save them. Not pushing or forcing it on to anyone, but just making it availible through discussions, talks, debates, etc. I personally like bumper stickers, shirts, and other products that have actual scripture posted on them because it doesn't preach to anyone but it does put them in the area where their curiosity might take over or God can start to work in them.

As far as the book is concerned, I would like to hear a few discuss it just so I know how it relates to the scriptures if at all and gain a better understanding of the story the book holds. No need to worry about what it contains and how it might effect others though. It's all in God's mighty hands and that is well with me.

Jun 07 2005 03:25pm

Llomar Kroyd
- Student

Let me clarify I think what this book is saying is blasphemy. But it is also dangerous, a lot of people will read it and take it as true, people constantly look for a way to humanise God and Jesus, and this book will get many thinking they have some sort of divine new truth that once again makes us as Christians look stupid and unknowledgeable.

The Bible does warn us in Revelations about false prophecies and prophets, I believe this is what we are seeing now.

Jun 07 2005 03:15pm

Koyi Donita
- Student

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I'm sorry, I'm not understanding what you are saying here. Would you be able to illustrate some examples by any chance for me please?

Jun 07 2005 03:14pm

Koyi Donita
- Student

I know that they are making a movie based on that book. I see the poster off it everyday in the theatre I work at.

As far as it's claims, they are merely nonsense in my view. When you study the Bible, both old and new testaments, it speaks of Jesus' coming, rising, death, and glory. God glorified Him before He ever walked the earth. Divinity was already around Jesus years before Jesus came into being when the Israelities carried the scriptures with them, something the churches never had part in doing.

As far as them picking and choosing books to create a glossary as you say, I must admit ignorance to that subject because I've never really looked into that. I do believe however that God inspired and wrote His Word. The Word relates to Jesus and no one was able to frustrate His plan, not even Satan, while He walked the earth. I believe the Bible, not the catholic Bible, is the Word of God. Again, I'm not saying it is, I just believe it is because their weren't two Jesus' nor does the old and new testaments talk about pergatory and things of that nature. There's just too much confusion and disagreements between the hidden books and the Bible for me to accept them.

With God doing what He did makes me believe that His Word is truth. The miracles and sights weren't recorded in history as false or shown as records of some crazy man. Jesus was here and did wonderful things full of power. The Bible doesn't record Jesus getting married or having children or anything like that so I don't believe He did and I just ignore idea's like that. That's not to say that He didn't because I wasn't there nor does the Bible say He didn't, but I can't see God in the person of Jesus Christ wedding a woman. Eternal God becoming married just doesn't paint a clear picture. Especially when the Bible tells us that when we die, we are no longer married or held in marriage. It would be a fruitless thing for Jesus to do as I understand it.

Jun 07 2005 11:25am

Llomar Kroyd
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I began reading the Da Vinci Code last week, I had no prior warning of its content and thought it would be a simple thriller. What I found was pure blasphemy, written in a way that suggests truth. This has led to the book being a best seller read by a large proportion of the population. The author 'Dan Brown' may try and say it is merely fiction but the words are based on writings by others suggesting the same thing. I threw the book away and I suggest people do the same, it caused me so much inner struggle when I read it and would be grateful to anyone who can shed light on the subject.

The book suggests that Jesus was married to Mary Magdelene and had children, also that the bible is not divine but merely a glossary chosen by the catholic church at its birth merely to discredit women and MAry Magdelene all in an attempt to create an image of divinity round Jesus.

Discuss.

Jun 04 2005 06:18pm

Darth Jason
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That's a bold statement that could hold some truth, but I don't openly agree with that. The world is what the world is and the world is God's enemy imo. The world is full of sin and God in the person of Jesus Christ will return to destroy the world. Now the Bible is quick to tell us to be in the world but not of the world. Many joyous things can come out of the world and make our physical lifes better, but what does that do for the spiritual life? The Bible illustrates this in the parable of the rich and the poor man. Further, it tells us what does one get if they gain the whole world, but loose their life? Now things like child birth, good health, food, shelter, funds, etc. are all great blessing that the Lord gives us daily, but remember that the Lord says that He gives sun to both the righteous and the wicked. We all receive blessings everyday. Even when we feel that it's the worst day of our lives, we're still alive aren't we? It's still the day of salvation and we aren't out of luck yet. The Word of God is imo the most precious gift God could has given to us because it leads us to salvation and gives us light. We would be in the dark without hope without it, but remember that the Bible is quite clear about God giving His people ears to hear His teachings. Without God applying His Word to our hearts and lives, it is of no good to us. Salvation is the ultimate blessing which is a spiritual one, an everlasting one. One that won't end with the world and us being here in the flesh should be running for this goal as much as humanly possible for life is but a drop in the ocean of eternity.

I am not trying to take away from that at all, but I find more and more that people are forgetting the wonderful reasons that we follow the word and miss the truths held within that we encounter in our everyday lives
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Jun 04 2005 09:58am

Smilykrazy
- Retired

Sweet post Koyi

Much <3

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Jun 03 2005 02:57pm

Koyi Donita
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This comment was edited by Koyi Donita on Jun 04 2005 04:47pm.

May 29 2005 09:49pm

Darth Jason
- Student

[qoute]...but remember that for some people their entire belief system stems from the Word contained within it.

The only problem with that point of view, In my opinion, is that people can focus too much on the word of God and not enough on the experience. There are many joyus events in our everyday lives that we don't even consider the good work of God and we forget that these experiences are also part of Gods teachings
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May 22 2005 09:55am

Dunn'Canni
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debating translation issues with the Bible is the same as a merry-go-round

As is the case for any concepts involving interpretation; it may seem as if debating a Holy Book seems like a waste of time, but remember that for some people their entire belief system stems from the Word contained within it. Is there anything wrong, therefore, in ensuring that what they think they are reading is accurater (i.e. the original books are in Greek and Hebrew - believers will want to follow this Word, and, unless they are familiar with Ancient Greek and Old Hebrew, will need an accurate translation).

An example of just how vital translation is would be the name of God - Yahweh - as He is described in the Hebrew scriptures and as this is translated into English. Whether we translate "yachid" (meaning single entity, evidence against Trinitarianism) or "echad" (meaning compound unity, evidence for Trinitarianism). The entire foundation of Christian faith rests upon how these two words are translated, so it is hardly futile to discuss them.
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May 19 2005 02:37am

Darth Jason
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I think you make a valid point Memphis. But sooner or later the merry go round has to stop. Hopefully when that happens we will all "just get along", but the first step is understanding and that can only begin when we can all have an open mind towards each other and our respective beliefs.
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May 18 2005 11:51pm

Memphis
- Student

I'll have to go with the general phrase "can't we all get along?" But seriously, debating translation issues with the Bible is the same as a merry-go-round, you feel like you're going somewhere and are being entertained, but are just going around and looking plain silly. Much <3
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May 18 2005 11:07pm

Jade
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Hi Darth Jason,

I have the same problem...opening my mouth and putting my foot in it...

I'm not sure of the comments you have made, but your honesty and humbleness is a good example to us all. It warms my heart to see this quality....again...I was worried that the JA was starting to forget to Love each other...THANKS!

Jade

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