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Jul 01 2004 01:41am

Koyi Donita
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Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible.
Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing.

I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth.

May God bless us all through his wonderful Word.

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Jan 06 2005 07:49pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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As for 'ambiguousness', I dont think the words can be any clearer. Don't do with a man as you would a woman. Doesn't sound ambiguous to me. Homosexuality is a SIN. There isn't anything more to it than that. And those that preach otherwise are not opening their eyes truly to God's holy word.

so ... what do you do when you meet someone who is gay?
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Jan 06 2005 07:29pm

Quesi
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Why would several men bother write a book needlessly? And it is proven that many of the written events in the Bible are FACT. A man named Jesus existed. He was crucified. You have to figure out for yourselves why, but I think if you are a Christian that should be obvious to you.

As for 'ambiguousness', I dont think the words can be any clearer. Don't do with a man as you would a woman. Doesn't sound ambiguous to me. Homosexuality is a SIN. There isn't anything more to it than that. And those that preach otherwise are not opening their eyes truly to God's holy word.
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Jan 06 2005 03:12pm

Gil-Galad
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Well I am very sorry Koyi but it seems to me you are suggesting that perhaps the tsunami could have been punishment from God. I won't bother responding to this because I'll get all upset and angry and stuff. I will ask why exactly do innocent people have to suffer for the sins of others? If god does exist, he certainly isnt the kind of fellow I want to spend my time worshipping.

About the bible, if I wrote on a piece of paper:

'hello this is god speaking, please stop comitting atrocities in my name, and kindly leave me and the lad well out of your warped system of control you call religion. Thanks a lot. Also, you will know that this is God, because it says so. See: this is God. obviously there is no arguing with this logic, so dont try. Also, no-one can ever change any part of this, because it says so. Bad things will happen to them, like the boogy man coming. Thanks for listening, God (via St. Gil-Galad, you know, divine inspiration and all that).

P.S. its ok to be gay, stop interpreting ambigiousness in the bible as what you want to hear, and concentrate on the more specific sins, like wearing artificial materials. Please start following that one, we havent had anyone up here for half a millennium.'

and showed it to you, would you believe it? Wouldnt have thought so. I see no more reason to follow the bible than this.

Oh and duff, that point about sitting down with god and straightening a few things out has crossed my mind a lot, I almost wish he does exist for the ALMIGHTY argument we would have.
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Jan 05 2005 09:44pm

Quesi
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 Quesi

OK this post is going to take a while for me, I've been looking through some relevant stuff. I just want to address the issue regarding the modification of the Bible, I've found the particular passage in Revelation that you speak of.

Revelation 22 vs 18 - 19:

'I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds anything to these words, God will add to that person the disasters written about in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away that one's share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are written about in this book.'

I believe that all the writers who contributed to the Bible, those hands had the will of God within them. I believe the Bible is a true and divine tool sent by God himself to spread the message to His people. I believe that God would want it to stay that way. And the above verses written in the Bible show to us God's intent that the Bible will not change. Anybody God willing enough to read the Bible and those verses would know that to change those holy words would be great foolishness and bring about disastrous consequences for themselves. This is why I think the Bible must have stood the test of time. Despite all the translations, God's holy word is there, unchanged.

Let me gather my thoughts a bit before I post again :P

[edit] eurgh, ill have to leave this one for tonight, ill pick it up tomoz.
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Jan 05 2005 12:08pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

Does this action make me question my faith? Am I asking questions like, "Is this something God has caused"? or "Why would God allow this to happen"? No. Not at all. Why? Because we will never clearly have the answers to such questions. I do believe that God allowed this terrible event to happen. Why would he do such a terrible thing? Maybe we should try to answer some questions like these first. Why do we rebel against His love? Why don't we follow His commandments perfectly from start to finish?

I know alot of so-called christians will say that God is a God of love and mercy and kindness. The same are from which the questions rise from. Why? Because they don't take the whole message of the Bible with them. Now am I saying God isn't a God of love, etc? No, He most definitely is, but He is also a Righteous, Lawful, Jealous, Vengful, and Wrathful God. When we sin, payment must be met! Some want to believe that God in the person of Jesus Christ payed for the sins of the whole world, yet Jesus only prayed for those whom the Father gave Him. He prayed not for the whole world, but those who were His.

This terrible event along with all of the terrible events both by nature and by man are just a Sunday Church picnic compared to the aweful wrath of God's judgement which will come to a great many. What a blessing this type of thing really is for us. Don't get me wrong, it is truely aweful but it gives us a clear picture of our own mortality. It instantly brings God to our minds in thought. We begin to seek answers all of which wouldn't come from alot of people. I myself thank God that His long suffering still endures to this very day and thank Him that I still have breath and thank Him for His wonderful Word and thank Him that nothing that aweful has happened to me. I truely don't know what I would do if I survived something like that and if I didn't who knows if I would be forgiven my sins. I believe that one's personality changes the moment they receive the Holy Spirit and I have changed to seek out God in His Word but I haven't really changed in my evil ways. God has allowed/shown us something very important and it shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt as most humans probably will saying to themselves, "Oh, how terrible!" and continue their lives without much impact taking place. We aught to be falling to our knees begging God for His mercy and praying for our loved ones whom are still with us when we see something this dreadful. It could have been us! That could have been Judgement Day where none would have escaped save those that God would have spared!!

Let us support the survivers, pray for the survivers, and for one another for we all have been blessed with a wake-up call. May God bless each and every one of you in this dark hour. May He lead you in His Word and make children of righteousness out of all of us. Praise the Lord that today is the day of salvation and we still have time. Praise God for His long suffering with us rebellious humans. Thanks be to God for giving us hope that is found in His Son Jesus Christ. May His mercy be enough for all of us.

Amen.
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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
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This comment was edited by Koyi Donita on Jan 06 2005 12:05am.

Jan 04 2005 06:39pm

Duffman
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 Duffman

yes, that is also a good thing. I went to my church recently, and they held a service specificly for the victims in asia. we held an auction for our overseas missionarys just recently, and ppl had given generously then, and some were concnerned that they might not have enough extra money afterwards to give to another needy cause.

I dont know the exact number, but I do know that my church did collect money that will go 100% to help the victims of this tragic event.
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Jan 04 2005 06:28pm

Jade
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 Jade

Tsunami was/is a very sad event. I feel very sorry for those who have been affected.

On a positive note, it has to a certain point united a lot of countries leaders and people. I hope that this is a slap in the face for those leaders with pride and a knock on the head for those leaders who are stubborn. Basicaly a wake up call for us all that "HEY! we are all human, we feel, we bleed, we hurt, we cry". Be nice to each other.

I only know that the people of the UK have spoken throught their actions in a sense shamed the government. The government originally donated £15 million. The peoples response was to donate £60 million in 1 week from their own pockets (approx £1000 per hour...I think).

Let those with doubt look at the reactions of the countries people even if the countries leaders are despised.... I really wish for peace and for people to be good to each other...:-(


Lastly, I sometimes look at those departed (those I once knew) as being lucky....they finally get to be with God. I look forward to that day and if I do go the other way, my wish is to get the chance just to say thank you before I decend.

Just my thoughts for today.

Peace to you all and remember a simple good deed such as saying hello to someone you normally dont can actually make the sun shine brighter.

"Without God, we are nothing"

Jade
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Jan 04 2005 02:08pm

Duffman
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 Duffman

For me, its a matter of math.

Take into acount the possibility that this world rests in just the right position to support any form of life as we know it-

The possibility that a planet like this has life at all-

the possibility that such a planet has INTELEGENT life-

The possibility that intelegent life has come to the point where we can comunicate over something as complex as the internet and have complex discusions about weither or not God exsists-

Put all those possibilities and you get the probability that we are on this world, with life on it, some of that life is intelegent, and we are complex enough to have a conversation like this on a network of machines made by our hand, and have several religions that we can debate over endlessly and not cover everything - combine all that and get the final probablity that we will be having this convorsation right here and now, and it is very very unlikely that such a thing would happen on its own, which means that there is something out there with a hand in our being here and now.

as to the verious bad things that happen in the world - there are several basic types of ideas that are generaly used.

Bad things happen on both small and large scales. Why would God allow something like a spitefull word to someone cause emotional pain? Why would he let a flood happen that changes the landscape dramaticly and take many lives and affect so much more? One thought process, which I dont personaly believe, is that it is a from of punishment. Others accept that bad things happen, and do what they can to help. Many others DO question the existance of God. Everyone's walk with the Lord is personal, and is between themselves and God. I know that I had a time when I questioned God, and it was very personal to me. There are still times when I do ask "Why?" But I acept the fact that those questions arnt always answerd. Believe me, when I meet God in the next life, I have a long list of questions that I can't wait to ask him again, and hope to get a responce I understand.

The biggest questions don't always have answers, the importance is in the asking, and coming to terms with them. It is a matter of faith, not fact.
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Jan 04 2005 01:27pm

Khâ D'Kana
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 Khâ D'Kana

I will try to express my point of view in english. But it's something that will take at least an afternoon of explication to be clear enough...

Personnally I think when God gave us free will, he stopped to personnally take part to human problems. He's still taking action through people who have the faith. But he's not directly intervening. So with free will, we've the good AND the bad...

And we could maybe think about what provokes so big earthquakes... Do some nuclear essays made in the pacific have something to do with them ?

my 2 cents,

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Jan 04 2005 11:52am

Gil-Galad
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 Gil-Galad

The idea of never questioning your faith is a pretty fundamentalist one. The Church of England is fairly liberal, and take the stance that questioning your faith is a healthy and natural thing to do, which I agree with. Myself, I fail to see how any religious person with a conscience and an ability to think for themselves cannot have at least some doubts when events like this go on in the world around us.
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Jan 04 2005 09:56am

Smilykrazy
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What happened with the Tsunami is a horrible event. And if an archbishop is questioning God then he does not deserve to be in his position. How can you teach about faith and love when you dont have it yourself?

I dont blame God for any of these events. I dont remember what verse this is from but I believe it to be from revelations. Where God actually describes horrible natural disasters occurring near the end of the world. Now im not saying that this is happening now, but you never know. This may be just the first of many bad things to come.

Everything that happens in the world is according to Gods perfect plan. As much as this Tsunami sucked. I believe God had a reason for it. Something that us humans cant understand. I would never blame God for something such as this. :D
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Jan 04 2005 09:03am

Gil-Galad
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 Gil-Galad

The archibishop of Canterbury, the highest ranking clergyman in the Church of England has said publicly that the earthquake that just hit Asia, causing the death of 130,000 people made him have doubts about God. How about everyone else, do events like this make you question your faith? If not, how do you explain them? I myself find it impossible to reconcile events like this with the existence of a benevolent God, but I would be interested to hear what the Christians amongst us think.
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Jan 04 2005 05:09am

Duffman
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 Duffman

Well, I will attepmt to find the scriptures to back this up, but this is my opinion on the matter.

There is a verse saying that the word of God is above reproff or reporch. While there are many different translations, and many different people have had their hand in what was said, but at the very least, the themes have stood the test of time. I wouldn't dismiss everything over the bad actions of a few people. Few in the grand scheme of things you understand. And there have been problems with churches in the past, look at the great reformation that happend due to the coruption in the catholic church. The good, moral people you speak of, for the christian religion to exist at all today, many good and moral people gave thier lives and thier time to keep the ideals of Jesus Christ alive. I can not believe that the lives of so many good people was for not. Over time, some of the scriptures might have been lost, changed, and whatnot - but good people would have kept things the way they were intended.

And take the first 5 books of the bible. they are also involved in the jewish faith. And for 2 religions that don't get along on a fundamental level to keep the same versions of the same words......that streches my imagination to far. So unless there is some mass-conspirisy working between those 2 religions, the bible has its fundamental basis for what is right and what is wrong that has remained relativly unchanged.

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If there is one thing history has shown us, is to hold those in charge acountable and question them. Don't believe something that someone in authority say it is the way it is. I am going to college to be a scientist, and i question all facts that are presented to me simply because it is the prudent thing to do, and if someone has been wrong, someone else down the line will catch it, or find the one error they made and fix the problem with that particualr therom or whatever. God and religion are not like this. It is not a matter of fact, it is a matter of faith. There are facts that point to the exsistance of someone called Jesus durring the time he was said to have lived. There are facts to many things, and those facts can be interpreted many different ways. By finding the answers that God has for us on our own, instead of merely listening to the priest or paster or whatever term is used for the person that delievers the word of God, it brings us closer to him, and we follow his way more closely then we did before.

I hope that made some sence:(, and I will try and find those verses I wanted. (if i do, i use the King James version, not always the easist to understand)
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Jan 04 2005 02:53am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

I'm sorry but I don't trust the bible one bit. I do think there were writings from Jesus and a little bit of it's "original" meaning has been retained in the bible. But not everything that was writin or said by Jesus made it into the bible. Long ago, Priests gathered to make a new Bible, one they could all use and agree on. Some things were left out and others not. It's hard to believe that over thousands of years people haven't change a few things or added a few things along the line of what they thought was right or moral.
I think the Church has become more of a business more than a religous haven for believers. Churches don't want or have to pay taxes to the government, but yet they think they should have a say it what the gov. does. They have prtected PEDO priests to protect their "name". Refused to bless or baptise(spelling?) people because of their sexual prefrences. Which is saying that they are a better human being than that person. That they shouldn't have the right to worship the God they love and trust.
There are many sins. Some I believe unforgivable. But some sins have become sins simply because of the churches will. The God I believe in I think will love all his children. As long as they try to live their lives good, with vlaues and morals. If they raise their children to belive in God and to teach them same values. To show them right from wrong. To just be a good person in general. To get a good feeling when you help someone.
Thats what I think.
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Jan 01 2005 01:56pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

Again, I would just like to add please don't trust me and what I say especially without scripture backing it up. Let God be true and every man a liar. The question on sin to my best estimate off of what has already been studied is correct and I will try to search out the other scriptures that I said I will look for. I've been so busy as of late and I'm sorry for the delay. :(
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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
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Dec 31 2004 06:51pm

Smilykrazy
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nice quesi!!!! :D
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Dec 31 2004 06:36pm

Quesi
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 Quesi

Check out in Leviticus 18 : 22. It's written in black and white.

The entire passage outlines another load of rules about sexual relations, and in God's eyes, they're all bad.

1 Corinthians 6 : 9-10 also does a pretty good job of it - 'Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God's kingdom. Do not be fooled. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are male prostitutes or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others or rob - these people will not inherit God's kingdom.'

There's alot of info there, and it just goes to show, none of these sins are better than the other and we should avoid them all.
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Dec 31 2004 04:16pm

solitude
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 solitude

thank you for your help koyi :)
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Dec 30 2004 04:44pm

VirusD
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ok really big thanks for your help
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Dec 30 2004 01:50pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

It most certainly does VirusD. Any homosexual activity is strictly an abomination in the eyes of God and if I've actually noted off those scriptures, I will post them later when I have located them. If I don't have them all nice and handy, I will search them out for you. :)
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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
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Dec 30 2004 12:55pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

ok koy i need little info becouse you probally know bible the best here lol

i need or you could say want to know if the bible says something against gay marriage.

The guestion poped up when i was reading other forums
Tnx if you can help
(and dear god noone start a discusion about this < just making sure :P)
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This comment was edited by VirusD on Dec 30 2004 12:56pm.

Dec 29 2004 10:03pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

I'm not positive if my answer is right and if the Lord willing and I find enough time, I will post the scriptures that will back this up.

If you have been reading the scriptures posted up until now, it wasn't that long ago that I posted one in regards to the question of sin. In that scripture, Jesus said if a man were to look at a woman with the intent of being with her he would have already committed adultry with her in his heart. There are also a number of scriptures that draw much clearer lines on the commandment of thou shalt not kill. Again, going back to the study about sin and iniquity God has made it pretty clear that anything outside of faith or the law is sin, (to my understanding anyways). That being said, if the driver was a child of God and he was trying to avoid striking the child in faith but accidentally killed another yet again in faith, that individual would be blameless before God. Now if anyone else who wasn't saved by God did the same thing, whether by good/neutral/bad intentions being outside of faith, it would be considered sin. Not the actual killing of the cyclist, (being that it wasn't intentional), but of not living their life at that moment unto God's glory.

Again, I could be wrong and it would take some studying to pull this one apart, but this is what I feel looking at it from what we have studied. I hope this brings some light to your question though. :)

May God add His blessing to the reading of His Word.

Amen.
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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
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This comment was edited by Koyi Donita on Dec 29 2004 10:03pm.

Dec 29 2004 03:31pm

solitude
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 solitude

I have a question on a hypothetical moral problem and was was wondering if the Bible said anything regarding it.

Say there was a car driving down a road, within the speed limit and the driver was paying all due care and attention. Then, a young child just jumps out into the road without looking. The driver immediately swerves but knocks down say a cyclist and kills him.

Has the driver done the right thing?

I guess im really asking if i'ts the intent behind an action that matters or the action itself.
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Dec 29 2004 10:04am

Quesi
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 Quesi

I cant really explain what the book is like. Its just like a modern translation. I can only suggest to you to check it out for yourselves, I believe it can have benefit for *anyone*. Have a read if you see it in a bookstore. Reading it alongside the Bible seems to really help. It looks at things from a different angle - the same message, expressed differently. I kind of think that if Jesus were to come down to earth right now, this is what he'd be saying :P I can assure you Koyi, its well worth looking at it... my minister at church has used it, I've heard it being used at Spring Harvest events in the UK to thousands of people. It is a very inspiring read alongside the Bible... :D
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Dec 28 2004 07:52pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

It sounds like an interesting read to me and could be a good tool for learning some of the story outlines that the Bible has, but God wouldn't save anyone through it so I would ask myself the question, "Why would I want to waist my time reading something that will have no spiritual benefit to me?" Who really knows how much time is really left. If I really want a relationship with God, I'm going to put all of my trust in Him and His Word for It is what He saves His people with. My limited understanding and human thought can't do me any good by reading it, but it will put me in the environment in which God saves. I'm patiently seeking the Lord and hoping that His salvation will come to me through His Word.

Again, on a intellectual level, this books sounds like a good read (if it is perfectly accurate with what the Bible teaches). :)
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