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Jul 01 2004 01:41am

Koyi Donita
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Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible.
Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing.

I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth.

May God bless us all through his wonderful Word.

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For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE

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Thank you Darth Mobility. :)
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D

This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm.

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Dec 31 2004 06:51pm

Smilykrazy
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nice quesi!!!! :D
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Dec 31 2004 06:36pm

Quesi
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 Quesi

Check out in Leviticus 18 : 22. It's written in black and white.

The entire passage outlines another load of rules about sexual relations, and in God's eyes, they're all bad.

1 Corinthians 6 : 9-10 also does a pretty good job of it - 'Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God's kingdom. Do not be fooled. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are male prostitutes or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others or rob - these people will not inherit God's kingdom.'

There's alot of info there, and it just goes to show, none of these sins are better than the other and we should avoid them all.
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Dec 31 2004 04:16pm

solitude
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 solitude

thank you for your help koyi :)
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Dec 30 2004 04:44pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

ok really big thanks for your help
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Dec 30 2004 01:50pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

It most certainly does VirusD. Any homosexual activity is strictly an abomination in the eyes of God and if I've actually noted off those scriptures, I will post them later when I have located them. If I don't have them all nice and handy, I will search them out for you. :)
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


Dec 30 2004 12:55pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

ok koy i need little info becouse you probally know bible the best here lol

i need or you could say want to know if the bible says something against gay marriage.

The guestion poped up when i was reading other forums
Tnx if you can help
(and dear god noone start a discusion about this < just making sure :P)
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'** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**'
'**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**"
'**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend.


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Dec 29 2004 10:03pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

I'm not positive if my answer is right and if the Lord willing and I find enough time, I will post the scriptures that will back this up.

If you have been reading the scriptures posted up until now, it wasn't that long ago that I posted one in regards to the question of sin. In that scripture, Jesus said if a man were to look at a woman with the intent of being with her he would have already committed adultry with her in his heart. There are also a number of scriptures that draw much clearer lines on the commandment of thou shalt not kill. Again, going back to the study about sin and iniquity God has made it pretty clear that anything outside of faith or the law is sin, (to my understanding anyways). That being said, if the driver was a child of God and he was trying to avoid striking the child in faith but accidentally killed another yet again in faith, that individual would be blameless before God. Now if anyone else who wasn't saved by God did the same thing, whether by good/neutral/bad intentions being outside of faith, it would be considered sin. Not the actual killing of the cyclist, (being that it wasn't intentional), but of not living their life at that moment unto God's glory.

Again, I could be wrong and it would take some studying to pull this one apart, but this is what I feel looking at it from what we have studied. I hope this brings some light to your question though. :)

May God add His blessing to the reading of His Word.

Amen.
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


This comment was edited by Koyi Donita on Dec 29 2004 10:03pm.

Dec 29 2004 03:31pm

solitude
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 solitude

I have a question on a hypothetical moral problem and was was wondering if the Bible said anything regarding it.

Say there was a car driving down a road, within the speed limit and the driver was paying all due care and attention. Then, a young child just jumps out into the road without looking. The driver immediately swerves but knocks down say a cyclist and kills him.

Has the driver done the right thing?

I guess im really asking if i'ts the intent behind an action that matters or the action itself.
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Dec 29 2004 10:04am

Quesi
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 Quesi

I cant really explain what the book is like. Its just like a modern translation. I can only suggest to you to check it out for yourselves, I believe it can have benefit for *anyone*. Have a read if you see it in a bookstore. Reading it alongside the Bible seems to really help. It looks at things from a different angle - the same message, expressed differently. I kind of think that if Jesus were to come down to earth right now, this is what he'd be saying :P I can assure you Koyi, its well worth looking at it... my minister at church has used it, I've heard it being used at Spring Harvest events in the UK to thousands of people. It is a very inspiring read alongside the Bible... :D
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[Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan] :( [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten
(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great


Dec 28 2004 07:52pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

It sounds like an interesting read to me and could be a good tool for learning some of the story outlines that the Bible has, but God wouldn't save anyone through it so I would ask myself the question, "Why would I want to waist my time reading something that will have no spiritual benefit to me?" Who really knows how much time is really left. If I really want a relationship with God, I'm going to put all of my trust in Him and His Word for It is what He saves His people with. My limited understanding and human thought can't do me any good by reading it, but it will put me in the environment in which God saves. I'm patiently seeking the Lord and hoping that His salvation will come to me through His Word.

Again, on a intellectual level, this books sounds like a good read (if it is perfectly accurate with what the Bible teaches). :)
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


Dec 26 2004 11:32pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

ooh yeah

I remember a book in the bookstore that was the story of Jesus' life in bookform.
it was told like a real story, as any other story would be written, and it was kind of cool

Perhaps something to make more people read the Bible?
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Dec 26 2004 04:12pm

Quesi
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 Quesi

Hey hey everyone :) hope you all had a very Merry Christmas and and recieved the wonderful message and blessing that comes with it.

I'd like to tell you all of something I've found great. It's a certain gift I've recieved and I don't know if any of you have heard of it before. It is called 'The street bible'. (bible with a little 'b'). Why? Well, in the author's own words - he has 'created an overview of the basic story of God and 'his people' as told by a twenty first century storyteller'. It's not The Bible.

The Bible for us all holds very deep lessons to be learnt, and can give meaningful insight into our lives. However, for some of us, the Bible can be an episodic read that is sometimes difficult to comprehend. I sometimes find it difficult to trudge through passages and keep focused in Bible study, and I constantly struggle to make time for it, obviously the time being there but without the drive to do it. (My lack of contribution is probably evidence of this, I painfully admit).

For people who are like minded or just want a different read, I recommend this to you :P By no means, this is NOT a replacement of The Bible; for the true Word and blessing that God gives us, read the original. This gives a fresh insight for what the Bible is about - it challenges the claim that the Bible is confusing and outdated.

- 'This is not THE Bible (capital B) ... but it might just get you reaching for one.'

For those who've never read the Bible, and for those who've read it too much. :P

Check it out :D

the street bible
by Rob Lacey

/end shameless promotion

edit: btw, I think the passage you refer to is Job 9:11, it has something of similar nature.
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"Your powers are weak old man" || Part of the "Fifth Element Appreciation Society" || Proud possession of Flash
[Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan] :( [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten
(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great


This comment was edited by Quesi on Dec 26 2004 04:24pm.

Dec 22 2004 07:54am

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

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Hi Koyi, everyone,

I have a question. Does anyone know where in the scriptures it says something like "dont blame God for mans evil acts"...obviously not the exact words.


Jade,

I do kinda remember reading something remotely like this and I will try to search it out for you a.s.a.p.. Sorry for the delay in the response. :(

Also, I do believe some of what Bail has said holds some truth, but the story of Job really hit me good when I read it. I find his three? friends to sound alot like religious people of our day and they were all wrong while Job was preaching to them what I thought was exceedingly wrong and it was held as truth in the sight of God. Simply amazing and so many lessons and truths lie in those scriptures. I will have to read them again sometime soon. :D
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


This comment was edited by Koyi Donita on Dec 22 2004 07:57am.

Dec 20 2004 02:37pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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Hi Koyi, everyone,

I have a question. Does anyone know where in the scriptures it says something like "dont blame God for mans evil acts"...obviously not the exact words.

Someone I once knew said this and I have never been able to find it. It has great meaning to me so if anyone can help I would be very greatful.

Thanks in advance

Your friend always

Jade

:P:D:P


I believe that would be the parable of Job (not sure if that's correct in English)
The man with a nice wife, a lot of children and rich beyond comparison? Then loses it all?
People tell him: "Blame god!" and he doesn't, and gets everything back and even more because of it?
The main moral was: "Don't blame God for something that happens!"
I could be wrong though...
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I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion

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Dec 20 2004 03:02am

Jade
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 Jade

Hi Koyi, everyone,

I have a question. Does anyone know where in the scriptures it says something like "dont blame God for mans evil acts"...obviously not the exact words.

Someone I once knew said this and I have never been able to find it. It has great meaning to me so if anyone can help I would be very greatful.

Thanks in advance

Your friend always

Jade

:P:D:P
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Dec 18 2004 10:43am

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

It's exceedingly easy for anybody to mislead any one at any time. Especially when God warns us about how Satan has the power to make himself appear as a messager of light and his followers ministers of righteousness. It is very easy for us to get preconceived ideas of what/who God is or make our own gods out of the passages we like to hear in the Bible. We need to be 100% faithful and ready to humbly accept what God tells us in His Word no matter how ugly or unpleasing the language gets. God is God and His Word can't have anything added or removed from it. Otherwise, we aren't standing behind the whole council of God. Let God be true and every man a liar. Every man. Even me. I trust that everyone checks out what I post for themselves in the Bible to see for themselves. Please don't put your trust in anything I say or in what anyone says for that matter. Trust in God's Word for it is what was given to us by God to lead us to salvation God willing.
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


Dec 17 2004 04:27pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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JUST FYI, the Pope, nor any man for that matter adequately represents God unless he is quoting directly from the Word. All else is opinion and of course, failable.

-DM-

but it's easy to fool those who can't read, like the pope did, now isn't it?:P
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I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion

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Dec 16 2004 08:23pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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he acutally said that latly? i know that he acutally signed papers what allowed crusaders to kill people who dident want to convert or something.

ah and ill say this fast , i mean no offense against to noone in my posts :)

yeah I had to learn that last year for my History classes. (The 'great' history of Europe :P)
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I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion

Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here.


Dec 16 2004 08:12pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

JUST FYI, the Pope, nor any man for that matter adequately represents God unless he is quoting directly from the Word. All else is opinion and of course, failable.

-DM-
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Dec 16 2004 08:04pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

he acutally said that latly? i know that he acutally signed papers what allowed crusaders to kill people who dident want to convert or something.

ah and ill say this fast , i mean no offense against to noone in my posts :)
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'** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**'
'**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**"
'**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend.


This comment was edited by VirusD on Dec 16 2004 08:09pm.

Dec 16 2004 05:48pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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well i think he cant just becouse his god lol.
ah and a nother guestion , what do you think of the crusades? the men who spreaded the word of god by slaving nations and killing many.


not to mention the Pope saying: "Oh don't worry. it isn't a sin to kill non-Christians"
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I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion

Want to know Vladarion? Read the Article about his life here.


Dec 16 2004 05:47pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

well i think he cant just becouse his god lol.
ah and a nother guestion , what do you think of the crusades? the men who spreaded the word of god by slaving nations and killing many.
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'** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**'
'**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**"
'**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend.


Dec 16 2004 02:57pm

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

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a guestion...
if he will have no other god before him etc..then why dosent he punish all the people who dont belive in him and worhsip allah or someone else?


The fact is, according to God's Word, all nations and all peoples who follow other gods will be punished on the last day. Jesus also warns us that there will be a number of people that will approach Him on that day saying Lord, Lord, have we not done many might miracles in your name and have we not cast out many devils in your name and prophecied in your name. To these people who are calling upon the Lord, obviously so-called believing on the Lord He will say Depart from me ye workers of iniquity, for I never knew you. For these people all around the world that have set up their own gospels and preconceived ideas (making a false god out of what they know about God) this may very well be their fate too. God's not the lunatic, we are. If you grow a plant or create a pot out of clay and then decide to smash it because it's a flawed creation, that's your choice. If you make something fitted unto destruction, that's your choice as well. If we can do these things and not even bat an eye at them, why can't God? Who are we to judge something so much more infinately wonderful then our sin tainted selves? That's just the way I look at it. :)
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


Dec 16 2004 12:06pm

VirusD
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 VirusD

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God sounds like an insane lunatic in some parts of the Bible, I mean I love the Lord dont get me wrong, but the vengence has always made wonder just what really was going on.

-DM-


i think this is the first time on this subject...i agree with ya

a guestion...
if he will have no other god before him etc..then why dosent he punish all the people who dont belive in him and worhsip allah or someone else?

a nother edit lol: damn its always funny how in all 'gods laws' there is the part : you shall worship noone else , theres only meeee etc :P
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'** I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.**'
'**On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend.**"
'**I Dont Lie! I Just Bend And Illustrate The Truth A Little**' - By me when talking to a friend.


This comment was edited by VirusD on Dec 16 2004 12:16pm.

Dec 16 2004 01:45am

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

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God sounds like an insane lunatic in some parts of the Bible, I mean I love the Lord dont get me wrong, but the vengence has always made wonder just what really was going on.

-DM-


God is simply a Jealous God as His states it. He will have no other god's before Him. That is idolitry and our very own human nature. Thank God for His wonderful mercy that He shows to some of us. It's a marvel to me that He would even save any of us being as we are. God is so awesome in His salvation and His destruction of the wicked. I hope and pray that we all find mercy in His eyes.

Please forgive us Lord, I beg you.

Please add Your blessing to the reading of Your Word.

Amen.
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


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