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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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Kaz - Student 
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Llomar, it says in the bible that the devil offered all this to Jesus, not that Jesus was at all tempted by it. Being God's Son, it would have been nothing to him, so i doubt he would have even blinked an eye lid. the factt that each time he quoted a scripture IMMEDIATELY to show why he shouldn't accept or do what the devil asked, proves that he was in no way tempted. |
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This is an interesting statement. One of which I can't think of any scriptures in which you can base this on. Maybe I haven't read something, (For I am ignorant to a great many books/chapters of the Bible), and I was wondering if you could post it for all of us to read. Thank you.  There isnt any scriptures to my knowledge that specifically states that but it would be a good bet that the devil would try to corrupt your thoughts ya know... _______________ 4/20/2005----Left the academy because I did'nt feel welcomed. |
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Llomar Kroyd - Student 
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Maybe coming in a little late here but. Bad thoughts aren't a sin. If temptation is a sin then when Jesus wandered in the desert and was tempted by Satan he sinned. As we all know he didn't otherwise there would have been no salvation. So having a bad thought and not acting on it is no sin. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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In 1 Timothy 1:12-16 we read: 12) And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; 13) Who was before a blastphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. 14) And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. 15) This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. 16) Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show forth all long-suffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. This is such a powerful scripture to me because Paul is highlighting the fact that Jesus came to save sinners. Paul as Saul was exceedingly sinful killing and persecuting the followers of Christ for what he felt was the faith of God. He was so incredibly blind just as the Pharisees and other religious leaders were at that time. Then, while he was traveling, God appeared before him and saved him. Paul wasn't looking for God, confessing his sins, asking for forgiveness or mercy. He was probably on his way to kill more if possible. Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen. (1 Timothy 1:17) Their is hope for us all. The spiritually blind, the deaf, the lame, the sick, the poor, and the dead. Even though we are dead in our sins, Christ's mercy is so wonderful that he can save a wretched, wicked soul. Thank you Lord for giving us all this hope where we may become your sons and daughters through the hearing of your Word. Thank you for your long-suffering that you endure every single day with this desperately wicked generation and not wiping us all out like in the days of Noah. Please help us all and have mercy upon us all for we seek you Lord. Not as I want, but according to your will God. To your honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Nice baby. It is also a day of thanks in which we should thank God for making the ultimate sacrifice for the sins of those He elected unto salvation. In God's Word we find in Romans 9:29 we read: 29) And as Isaiah said before, EXCEPT THE LORD OF SABAOTH HAD LEFT US A SEED, WE HAD BEEN AS SODOM, AND BEEN MADE LIKE UNTO GOMORRHA. Thanks be unto the living God who saves His people from their sins. Thanks be unto God for making hope known to us. Thanks be unto God for His longsuffering toward us, an extremely wicked lot of people. Thanks be unto God for the gift of His Son Jesus Christ the Word of God, for through Him His Word does one come to true repentance and salvation. What wonderful gifts for such unworthy people. Thanks be to God for ever and ever. Amen. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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Happy Thanksgiving all. Today is a day where we should give thanks to God for all that we have and for all that he has given us. Lord God, Thank you so much for the many blessings you have bestowed upon us. Thank you for food, clothing, family, friends, for a bed to sleep in at night and for life in general. Without you Lord God, none of this would be possible. Amen _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Quote:when you have sinful dreams like that all that is basically is the demons that want you to fail and want you to lose your relationship with god. A good piece of advice would be if you dont want dreams like that it does help to pray before you go to bed. This is an interesting statement. One of which I can't think of any scriptures in which you can base this on. Maybe I haven't read something, (For I am ignorant to a great many books/chapters of the Bible), and I was wondering if you could post it for all of us to read. Thank you. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Quote: Just a question that I wanted to bring up. I know a sin is something that you do that is against what God wants. My question is how about bad thoughts that you dont actually fulfill but think about. Like when I get really pissed off at my sister and think about strangling her. Is that a sin? Great question Smily and thank you everyone for joining in on this discussion. First and foremost I would like to take a look into God's Word the Bible to see if He can tell us more about sin so that we might understand better the topic at hand. For the scriptures I post, I would suggest to all that you read the context up to the verses to get a more accurate feeling for what God has in view. If someone would like to see those verses or perhaps doesn't have a Bible, let me know and I will be happy to post those as well. In Romans 14:23 we read: 23) And he that doubteth is [damned]{condemned} if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Just a quick note that I believe this scripture is talking about someone who is truely saved of God due to the context of the scriptures that it is found in. In Colossians 3:5 we read: 5) [Mortify]{Put to death} therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, [inordinate affection]{passion}, evil [concupiscence]{desire}, and covetousness, which is idolatry: In 1 John 3:4 we read: 4) Whosoever committeth sin [transgresseth also the law]{commits lawlessness}: for sin is [the transgression of the law]{lawlessness}. So between what we read in Romans and 1 John we can see that sin is anything that isn't related to faith and/or complete lawlessness. Now this can become a huge long post where I cover all corners, but I humbly request for those who may have missed it to read back to earlier posts that I have done concerning faith and how it is a work. 1 Thess. 1:3 and 2 Thess. 1:11 cover this quickly. Anything that isn't [work for]or{done in faith for} Christ/God can and will be considered sin. Under this, evil or any thoughts/dreams/day dreams/ etc. are sinful in nature and highlight why we so desperately need a Savior. Praise be to God for giving us hope which is Himself in the person of Jesus Christ. In Matthew 5:27 & 28 we read: 27) Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY: 28) But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. This is a power statement because this just goes to show the seriousness of the matter at hand. So many things are done consciously and unconsciously by everyone everyday and we never account it as sin nor ask for forgiveness. I am one who firmly believes that Christ didn't pay for the sins of the whole world. Read past discussions on this thread or request it and I will repost them. That being said, I also don't believe that one can simply ask for forgiveness and it is granted them. If Christ payed for an individuals sins then yes, that individual is forgiven of their sins and asking for forgiveness is a healthy thing to do if one is truely sorry for the offense. This all goes back to the discussion on Salvation which we never really hit direct truth on, but more on that later. I hope and pray that the sharing of these scriptures will shine light on the questions asked recently. God saves through His Word and may he add His Blessing to us all as we study His Word. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Daydreaming is often not done that way though. Your mind starts to wonder. |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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well, i would aggree with uncontrolled daydreams, but say someone was bored, and thought' hmm...i know what would be fun...ill fantasise about (insert bad thing) its a delibrate action and as such is bad. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Mookie - Ex-Student
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Quote: no, you cannot control your dreams and thus are not responsible for them. now fantasies or daydreams, that another matter I don't agree with that. Fantasy and daydreaming, while obviously under more conscious control than dreams, fall into the same category. If you supress your imagination, or your dark side, it will manifest in different and often more dangerous areas. No, don't try to impose limits on your own imagination - it's the product of a healthy mind. |
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I think the same applies with dreams and thoughts... as long as you understand that the actions that may take place in these dreams are sinful, and you never consider doing it, you're alright. |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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no, you cannot control your dreams and thus are not responsible for them. now fantasies or daydreams, that another matter _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Smily...no it is not...when you have sinful dreams like that all that is basically is the demons that want you to fail and want you to lose your relationship with god. A good piece of advice would be if you dont want dreams like that it does help to pray before you go to bed. Many good people have sinful dreams...I do too... I wont lie about it. Your subconcious can be tricky indeed. _______________ 4/20/2005----Left the academy because I did'nt feel welcomed. |
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God is great and Jesus is the way to him. If you dont believe what I am saying is true then please read John 3:16 and you'll see that Jesus came to this earth for us. I recenly gave myself to Jesus and I'm glad I did and I encourage ANYONE, ANY COLOR, ANY NATIONALITY to do so. No matter what sin you have commited Jesus has already paid the price for your sin...All you have to do is pray to him, confess your sins, turn your back on those sins, and accept him into your heart as your lord and savior and there ya go On a related star wars note...Since I accepted christ my win ratio in duels has increased...lol. WooT! Go jesus! lol. _______________ 4/20/2005----Left the academy because I did'nt feel welcomed. |
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Smilykrazy - Retired
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thanks for the input. I was also pondering dreams as well. If you have a nitemare where you dream about something sinful, is that a sin? _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Yeah, but how does that support our topic? _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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)-(ailStorm - Student 
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Ok guys, here is some deep wisdom from HailStorm...I see it like this, God didn't create evil, it is the absence of God that is evil. Light darkness is the absence of light, cold is the absence of heat, and evil is the absence of God _______________ Quote: "Dude, I just wanna dance"
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Ashyr - Student
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Quote: but if you're constantly inviting these "bad" thoughts in, then no it's not good, since your mind isn't focused on what it should be. Exactly. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student 
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Quote: OOOH YEAH! *CROTCH THRUST* Go confess now Doobie !!!  [DISCLAIMER] I know this is a serious thread, so I apologize in advance for this (poor) attempt at humour. _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan  - [DJ is my beloved wife! - JA Family: Brothers:
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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I'd say ol mikey poo is right. if you have "bad thoughts" but recognize they're bad and try to avoid them, then you're ok, because we're not perfect... we all make mistakes and let our minds wander... but if you're constantly inviting these "bad" thoughts in, then no it's not good, since your mind isn't focused on what it should be. _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Quote: Just a question that I wanted to bring up. I know a sin is something that you do that is against what God wants. My question is how about bad thoughts that you dont actually fulfill but think about. Like when I get really pissed off at my sister and think about strangling her. Is that a sin? As far as I know, as long as you realise that these thoughts you have are wrong, and it would be sinful to actually DO it, then it isn't a sin. But, i'm a newbie, so what do I know? |
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solitude - Jedi Council
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there are two schools on that one is yes and one is no. i believe that the denomination of christianity can say which it is for you, but according to lectures i have heard, thinking of the deed should obviously be avoided and is still a sin. whether or not it is a serious as actually comitting the sin is accepted as many but alse disputed. this is still an ongoing debate among the clergy, i believe. all that said, my memory is fuzzy at times, so if im wrong someone more knowledgeble please correct me. _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Smilykrazy - Retired
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Just a question that I wanted to bring up. I know a sin is something that you do that is against what God wants. My question is how about bad thoughts that you dont actually fulfill but think about. Like when I get really pissed off at my sister and think about strangling her. Is that a sin? _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 This comment was edited by Smilykrazy on Nov 18 2004 09:55pm. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Just to continue the discussion, I am bumping this thread. GODS LOVE It's amazing and incredible, But it's as true as it can be. God loves and understands us all, And that means you and me. His grace is all-sufficient, For both the young and old. For the lonely and the timid, For the brash and for the bold. His love knows no exceptions, So never feel excluded. No matter who or what you are, Your name has been included. And no matter what your past has been, Trust God to understand. And no matter what your problem is, Just place it in His Hand. For in all of our unloveliness, This great God loves us still. He loved us since the world began, And what's more, God always will! I have always been a fan of this, thought it was appropriate ot JP's post. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Nov 15 2004 06:37pm. |
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