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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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xAnAtOs - Student |
Good to hear, JJ _______________ Brother to Luke Skywalker and (SKX) Dark Blade 
Lag Brother to Acey Spadey 
Jools is my best friend.
<Henkes> nebody feeling like abusing me with a lightsaber?|+Smilykrazy grabs Gradius, beats the living CRAP out of him, then throws him into a huge vat of ACID |
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I want to apologise to everyone for my comments here.. they were the result of a misguided hate, and I hope that those I hurt can forgive me. I've just experienced a big change... i'll let you guys know soon. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Jade, lol, dont get me wrong.... I have a real hard time too, but all I am saying is it gets easier and easier for me if I stay strong to it. And the scriptures certainly encourage me and all of us on these things, /me high fives Jade -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Jade - Student 
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Hmmm...that was a bit of a shame. Thanks DJ, Buzz for cooling the flames. Mike: I am sorry that you feel this way now. Your post on 6 July 12:24am was so inspiring and wonderful though - respect to you! Anyway, nice comments DM. This is similar to my view of life (though it doesn't mean I am always able to stick by it...I'm not that good...much respect to you DM). Anyway, my thoughts are: The greatest way to respect God is to "Show" not "Say". If you say the right things but not act as you say, then you are only destroying Gods work. If you "Show" Gods work by:- - the way you act, - the way you are kind and generous, - the way you are forgiving, - the way you are humble, - the way you are loving and caring then others will see this and respect you and then see you as an example of Gods work...this is to promote the word of God. There is no need for "Bible bashing" as it is called here, although I respect those who do it as it is a great test for their faith. I think somewhere in the Bible it says something along the lines of ... when you pray, there is no need go to the churches or in the streets and show everyone you are praying, dont pray loudly so that others can hear, dont make a big thing about your prayer or your good deed. To pray is to hide yourself in a private place and pray quietly and privately and dont go and tell everyone that you have prayed. Not the exact words of course, but you know what I mean...I think it was from Luke....(maybe someone can correct this and find the right words...) ANyway, thats my bit to answer you DM. On another note: I would just like to say, for anyone who may feel that this thread is not of use or may question if this is being productive....I am your example to answer this.....if it takes 100 comments to save one person for just one day from temptation then it is worth it! I have not been to church for a while. I have not read the bible for a while. I have not prayed properly for a while and I have not been a good person. Through this thread, it has opened my eyes again (although I have never lost my faith). I have been lazy, but this has inspired me to pick up my Bible again and start to read. Thank you everyone! "To be hurt physically is nothing, To be hurt mentally is nothing, To hurt inside for no reason is nothing but to be alone....that is tough..... God is always by your side, you only need to turn to talk to him...he will carry you through the hard times and rejoice with you in the good. He is there even if you ignore him, never holding grudges, never having a bad day and never too busy for you. Believe me, this is as true as the sun rises each day!...I would not be here otherwise". Take care everyone and may God bless you all Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" This comment was edited by Jade on Jul 09 2004 06:49am. |
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Quote: WOOOT GO MIKE! My point exactly. IMO posts like this have no place in the JA. This is a place for recreation, not religious conversion that inevitably turns into a grudge match and then finally into a flame war. Yes this is a place for recreation Mena. Consider this though, some people do enjoy discussing things about their faith. So that makes it a form of recreation. No one is actually being force to come to this thread or read it when they linked to it. I'm sure you guys have been linked to "fun" threads a thousand times in a row and didn't look at them each and every time. Since we have members who believe in these things and want to discuss them, and enjoy discussing them, these threads have a place. But if you really think these don't have a place here at the academy. Consider you making a post about some fun thing or a sport you love to play/watch or some aspect of your life. Others agree with you and start discussing it. Then some people who think the exact opposite of you, they absolutely hate it, and go and try their hardest to make you feel like morons for wanting to discuss it. Would you like to have them saying that your conversation has no place here? Or would you prefer to tell them that if they don't want to have a polite discussion about it, to not bother looking at the thread anymore. I mean come on, if you don't like what's being discussed you're not being forced to be involved. There is no reason to go the path of "I don't like what you're talking about so stop it" here. And if its a part of our members here then it has a place here. We aren't a group of people that thinks Freedom of Religion means you are forbidden from ever talking about it. It means Freedom and you having the right to talk about and discuss it. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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/me adjusts his manties and proceeds..... "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one to another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye love one another." (John 13:34-35) I am trying really hard to apply this one to lots of areas of my life. I definitly have found that more people are responsive to my, "LOVE" than my, "WORDS". I am really starting to see this more and more. I am straight down with the whole, "Random acts of Kindness" philosophy. Doing it in the name of Jesus and giving him all the glory for it. It is the Golden Rule. It becomes more and more true for me as I get older it seems. It also gets easier and easier the more I do it. How about you guys? -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 09 2004 04:16am. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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This thread's here to discuss the bible, not to bash christians. If you don't like the thread title then don't click it. If you do click it and don't like it: a) try not to get your manties in a bunch b) close the window/tab Now if you think a thread is breaking academy rules then let me or any other JAC know. This thread is harly breaking anything though. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Mike, I am not sure who is sending you this link, but be assured we are not trying to shove anything down your throat man. You may just politely ask those people to stop sending it to you. If the problem persists then there are other avenues you can take. As much as I would love for you to get into this study with us and have you question your atheistic views, you certainly dont have to. Thanks for respecting us man Koyi, another profound scripture on that subject is: that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto rightousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:13 -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 08 2004 11:14pm. |
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I don't, the problem is, I have people messaging me on IRC, MSN, etc, saying HEY LOOK AT THIS THREAD, and I click on the link.. and it's either this thread, or the other one. I'm fed up of having this, which is in my opinion, misguided, primitive hokey, shoved down my throat. Like I said before - Piss on my picnic, i'll take a dump on yours. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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I would just like to politely ask for all of the people out there disrespecting others to stop it. One of the things the Jedi Academy is built on is respect. Respect my wishes and be more constructive with your time. If you don't like the material here, why read or post at all? Just read another thread, chat on mirc, talk on skype, or play Jedi. Have fun and stop hurting peoples feelings! _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Hey Mike, if that is the case then ya see the, "BIBLE STUDY" link on the Forums? .....yeah, DONT CLICK IT. Problem solved. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Well, I don't appreciate something that doesn't interest me shoved down my throat. So, if you piss on my picnic, i'll take a dump on yours.  |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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That is very interesting Kenyon. Cool to see different opinions on that subject. Thanks Man!!! Mike, come on man. We respect you dude, why do you have to come on here and poke fun at our study man. Thats not very cool dude. I love ya man, but that was a little out of line, dont you think? Show just a little class, bud. Menaxia, W00t, go Mike? Exactly what did we do to you to deserve that Menaxia? Koyi started this up for people to study the Bible together. There is no flame against others. Please respect our right to free expression. If the JAC's want us to take it elsewhere, we will. I think it is up to them what should be and should'nt be allowed here at the JA, but of course, your opinion is your right. But like Aron said, if you dont' like it, then don't read it, no one is forcing you to read this thread. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 08 2004 10:55pm. |
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Well, that's a bit hard when I have people PM'ing the links to me on IRC every day. So, aye. |
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Aron - Retired 
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No offense, but untill now this has not turned into a flame war at all. Don't like it? Don't read it. |
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Menaxia - Student 
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WOOOT GO MIKE! My point exactly. IMO posts like this have no place in the JA. This is a place for recreation, not religious conversion that inevitably turns into a grudge match and then finally into a flame war. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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If all the derogatory posts here were deleted, this would be a very empty thread.  |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Please, if you're not interested or you're going to be derog. - don't bother posting in here. _______________ Website |
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Menaxia - Student 
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*THERE IS NO MALE NOR FEMALE, ROMAN NOR GREEK, JEW NOR GENTILE, CIRCUMSISED OR UNCIRCUMSISED - SO I GUESS THAT LEAVES UNISEX + ONE SIZE FITS ALL. HOW BORING.* _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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IN DA BGINNG WAS TEH WORD AND TEH WORD WAS WIT GOD AND DA WORD WAS GOD!11!!111!!!11! LOL WTF |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Seeing that in John 1:1-5,14 we read: 1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2) The same was in the beginning with God. 3) All things were made by him; and without him, was not any thing made that was made. 4) In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5) And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. In Acts 4:12 we read: 12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Jesus came into the world to save the world, (His elect), not to condemn the world. That is why so many focus on His power of salvations. This is the good news and people like good news. The problem with this is as John 1 says, Jesus is the Word and the whole Word must always be in view. When Jesus returns, Judgement and Condemnation is coming with Him. As far as other literature is concerned, it isn't the Bible and I wouldn't want it to become a serious discussion here in this thread. The Bible is the Word of God and is all we need to find truth. In Rom. 3:4 we read: 4) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, THAT THOU MIGHTEST BE JUSTIFIED IN THY SAYINGS, AND MIGHTEST OVERCOME WHEN THOU ART JUDGED. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Hi, I just read a fascinating work by a scholar on Jesus which raises some interesting things to think about. For example, the common belief is that Jesus was/is the Son Of God. But this book talks about the *feminine* god, Sophia, who was the ancient God of Wisdom. Sophia was with God from the beginning of time. The author posits that Jesus is not so much the "son of God," but the "son of Wisdom" and uses various translations to back up his thoughts. He also feels that seeing Jesus as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, and nothing more, is missing the big picture. According to this scholar, the early church (far back before different books were canonized into the Bible) stressed that the reasons for Jesus' death were threefold: 1) that His death was a *victory* over death and earthly concerns, and something for us to therefore take comfort in; that 2) that Jesus death was a sacrifice for our sins; and 3) that His death was a revealation. He goes on to say that the church only teaches/places importance on the second of those three reasons, and that in so doing, the message of Jesus is lost on many people. Just my two cents. This comment was edited by Mookie on Jul 08 2004 09:26am. |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Just wanted to post some scripture really quick that supports DM's view of the Bible. In Rom.7:13-25 we read: 13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15) For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16) If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17) Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18)For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20) Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21) I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22) For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23) But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24) O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25) I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. I'll admit that I've always had the thought from the beginning that there is nothing anyone can do to become saved and evidance of that would be made manifest in our works, not by doing the work itself. I'm just trying to look at this from all angles to make sure I'm not missing anything but these sciptures seem to agree with what DM is saying. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Jade - Student
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Hi Everyone. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for this thread. It is not often that I get to talk about the Bible and God. This has been a form of therapy for me and also a wake up call for me to actually question how much I understand and believe. It is also one less period of time that I feel temptation. The more I think about your comments, the more I think about God and the less I am tempted....THANK YOU ALL! Much much respect to you all especially with the quotes from the Bible and the level of understanding here. Thank you again and God bless you all Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Jade - Student 
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Quote: ...what I read in the Bible is that I am saved by believing in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. I do, and therefore-in my mind-I am saved. No-one will ever convince me otherwise It is right to believe that when Jesus died he sacrificed himself for our sins. From that our sins are forgiven. However, this does not mean we should be complacent. He came to let us know that we had not understood Gods commandments properly and that his life was an example for others to follow. He constantly warns us to be on the guard and not to fall assleep because if he returns on judgement day and finds us who know his commands assleep then it would be better for us to not have known his commands as our punishment would be the worst of all. His commands do not request just understanding them, but to practice them...love thy neighbour, origninal 10 commandments etc... So be warned! "It is not an easy path to walk as a christian and it is never too late to find your faith" Quote: Bail: - 3) Trust God completely and everything you command shall happen... Nice one Bail. I think this is basically to "Trust" God and to have "Faith". There is a practice that was taught to me... When you have a crisis in your life where you just cannot seem to find a solution. Do not sit and ponder and worry over this. Worrying does not solve the problem. Have faith! Pray to God about the problem with all your heart. When you have finished....forget about it - Completely! Have Faith in God and Trust in him. He will find a way where there seems to be no way. If he cannot then no-one can and all your worrying is for nothing. The outcome is then what God has chosen for you and you should fully accept this. To continue to worry after you pray is to not trust that God has heard your prayer. This is a test of your faith - but not to purposely challenge God for a solution, but to offer yourself to God saying "whatever you command is my wish..." I hope this is understandable, but just wanted to agree and expand on Bails comment. Good luck everyone. May God be with you every step in your life and carry you when life throws you a curve ball... Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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