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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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Aron - Retired 
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Quote: DM and James its hard to explain. I am open to all that you write. But did you ever stop to think, just what if you are wrong? What if you arent saved? Sorry to go back such a way into the thread. But Smily, what I read in the Bible is that I am saved by believing in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. I do, and therefore - in my mind - I am saved. No-one will ever convince me otherwise. Well, from the top of my head: I'm not sure what the english translation is, but literally translated it is called "practising faith" in the bible. The original greek word that is translated with this (I'll look this up later) was something about "having faith, and DOING/PRACTISING the thing you have learned in every aspect of your life". Simple "knowing" is not enough. I don't know the actual verse from the top of my head (again, because it is English), but there is a verse that says "Belief without deeds is dead (or something like that" If you follow God and Jesus, you have to do what they want you to do, not only REALIZE what they want you to, and what they have done. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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I agree with James. I feel following Jesus' Word is enough. Not to sound lazy or anything, since I feel I sound like it  but I just mean, technically, it holds everything you should do. 1) Believe in one God 2) Love your neighbours, and pray for those who persecute you 3) Trust God completely and everything you command shall happen, if you have 100% of trust that it will happen as you commanded and so on... Technically, that's what the Bible says too. Any opinions? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Quote: DM and James its hard to explain. I am open to all that you write. But did you ever stop to think, just what if you are wrong? What if you arent saved? Sorry to go back such a way into the thread. But Smily, what I read in the Bible is that I am saved by believing in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. I do, and therefore - in my mind - I am saved. No-one will ever convince me otherwise. _______________ Website |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Well, JamesF1 thought it would be cool for the Jedi Academy Christians to have thier own channel in IRC and I agreed with Him and Aron got on board too, so we just wanted to go public. Once we get the idler's, Aron will get, "L" for us and we can make it official. So, GET ON AND IDLE!!!  -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Okay, I will study into what you have posted DM. It's only fair that I try really hard to see where your coming from. I will repost old scriptures from times passed that too have never really been responded to. This is so awesome that we are here searching for the truth. God. Please bless us as we seek Your truth for your glory. Also, I think it's great that you have started this Union. Is it a Bible study type union, or what? I only ask because that is what this thread is all about. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Hey Koyi, JamesF1, Aron and I have started the #ja-cu (Christian Union). Could you put that in your announcement up top? Thanks man -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Aron - Retired
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Awesome post Jade, that's all I have to say Really awesome. |
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Jade - Student 
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Hi Wood. I am sorry for your experiences. I too have had similar experiences when I was young. I am now 30 and still have periods of depression. However, in all this time, I have never looked to God for the miracle. When I was around 10, I remember that I used to pray to God (or what I thought was praying as no-ne ever taught me). He was just my friend...someone to talk to and cry to. Little things, big things...he was there. He was my friend...my best friend. As life has gone on, I too have had attempts at suicide (I would really like to talk to you about that in private...so I will post my email on your profile). However, all things turn out good somehow.... I am now an adult and a father of 2 children. I do not and would not do what was done to me. I am strong, controlled, caring, patient and most of all understanding. I am now in a good position to give love, compassion and support for my children. I know I hold the future in my hands through my children. I have created life, and now I guide it. This is the blessing from God. This is the power we are all capable of....and he trusts us with it. I see other parents who simply do not appreciate this...they never will as you dont know the good without tasting the bad. Too many things are taken for granted. All this would not be possible without my childhood. This is my point. Be strong and patient. All will become clear. God has a path for us and a reason for us to walk it however difficult. He is preparing us for something in the future. He is preparing us for Great things. Lastly, we all count...not just the elite elect....he wants us all there! - read the parable of the prodigal son - even if you have walked away from God. When you decide to return to him, he will be so pleased with you. You will be filled with warmth and love beyond imagination. I walked away and came back...and yes...there was something special, I was content, fullfilled and.....happy....for the first time! I will pray for you Wood and please consider me a friend should you need to talk. You are in my thoughts Jade. _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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DJK - Student 
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I'm not trying to make other stop beliving! im just saying that no matter what I did, it somehow dint seemed enough for "god". And yes i HAD faith, but now, i dont simply becourse i fought my way to now. Im depressed, im going to bed, sleep well everybody. This comment was edited by DJK on Jul 06 2004 01:16am. |
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Quote: Can you see the wind? Can you FEEL the wind? Im not THAT stupid mister -_- But practually just think about it for a secound, He/she doesnt talk to ANYONE!(And dont come say that you've heard him say something becourse you basicly dont have a proove that you did...and some might concider you mental crasy....) He/She dont show any signs at all, nether does He/She helps a damn thing if you perform a so called "Prayer", my life has been alot of bad shit! just since i was child to now, ive been hurted Fysicli and psy. I even nearly decided Suecide to be an very nice selution away from all the trubles wich your "god" dint do a thing about. So dont come here and tell me he talks to anyone or shows signs or help you, becourse he dint helped me a damn shit, nether he showed me signs OR speaked to me!! ...I apologize for my bad english and my rather hard way of explonation. It's a little thing called FAITH. Although I am athiest, I believe that most faith comes from having faith in God. Who are we to understand the actions of a higher being? Who are we to question the existance of God? If you don't believe in God, then He obviously cannot help you. But, I don't believe God hands out life-saving miracles all the time. I believe God gives people the strength to help themselves. I'm sorry to hear that things have been bad for you, but you can't blame God for not helping you. Why should God have to PROVE his existance to people? You either believe in God, or you don't. Don't tell other people their prayers are in vain - Just because you don't have faith, means you should rob people of THEIR faith. I have many good friends who believe in God, who pray every night, and are content and happy with their lives. Perhaps their prayers are answered? Perhaps the things that the y pray for are given by God, or perhaps they are just coincidence. It all comes down to faith in God. I hope this post is helpful. |
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DJK - Student
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Yea...your right, i was stupid, forgive me, i dint intent to be so agressively. |
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Aron - Retired 
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God listens to EVERY sincere prayer. However, he does not ANSWER every one. Not every prayer is acceptable. It has to meet certain conditions. Before praying, you should have a BOND with God. BELIEVE in the power of prayer. Hebrews 11:6 ------- Quote: But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Of course, a person SEEKING God can always pray to him on HOW TO GET TO KNOW HIM. God does not HAVE to answer prayers. It may sound harsh, but praying for better health does not mean you automatically get "answered". The Bible encourages you to keep praying. Romans 12:12 ------ Quote: Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer Colossans 4:2 -------- Quote: Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving Keep in mind that he has foresaid prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled in which EVERY sick person can get better again, and live eternally, if they have done God's will. Revelations 21:4 ----------- Quote: and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away. I think that is a wonderful promise to remember I think a lot of us (including me, believe me) have had their share of RL problems. However, we have to keep looking FORWARD. This comment was edited by Aron on Jul 06 2004 12:10am. |
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DJK - Student
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Quote: Can you see the wind? Can you FEEL the wind? Im not THAT stupid mister -_- But practually just think about it for a secound, He/she doesnt talk to ANYONE!(And dont come say that you've heard him say something becourse you basicly dont have a proove that you did...and some might concider you mental crasy....) He/She dont show any signs at all, nether does He/She helps a damn thing if you perform a so called "Prayer", my life has been alot of bad shit! just since i was child to now, ive been hurted Fysicli and psy. I even nearly decided Suecide to be an very nice selution away from all the trubles wich your "god" dint do a thing about. So dont come here and tell me he talks to anyone or shows signs or help you, becourse he dint helped me a damn shit, nether he showed me signs OR speaked to me!! ...I apologize for my bad english and my rather hard way of explonation. This comment was edited by DJK on Jul 05 2004 11:20pm. |
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Aron - Retired
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Quote: I know this is kinda out of topic but here goes: How come so many people Trust and belive in something they never seen? And WHY do they belive it? I my self have hard time to belive in god becourse i simply have no proof, and becourse i never got helped by "Him/her" Thanks for listening. -W0oD Can you see the wind? Can you FEEL the wind? Another thing, let's just go back to basics here. Two basic options on how the earth was created (there are more, but these are the mostly used): 1) Created by God, or some "higher power" 2) Big Bang, followed by everything that is explained in the evolution theory. Did you ever see a house build itself? Does it seem logical that through a huge explosion (I'm using child terms here) things would be "created" ? Or it is more logical that SOMEONE created it? Intelligent lifeforms. Beautiful lifeforms. There are so many wonderful aspects of life that a lot of people take for granted. The sheer power of the stars or our sun is incredible. Then think of the fact that EVERYTHING hangs together, in a perfect, harmonious way. I grew up with religious parents, and yeah, I had my period of doubts. But THIS was the tought that took it all away. |
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StarWarsGirl - Ex-Student 
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Once you go to a christain church enough you start to feel and see(not through eyes,through heart) his presence in your life then you except him and you get to know him even better. _______________ Be strong & brave.Don't ever be afraid. Joshua 1:9 Fear is the path to the darkside. -Jedi Master Yoda |
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DJK - Student 
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I know this is kinda out of topic but here goes: How come so many people Trust and belive in something they never seen? And WHY do they belive it? I my self have hard time to belive in god becourse i simply have no proof, and becourse i never got helped by "Him/her" Thanks for listening. -W0oD |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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It seems to me your taking OLD laws and things prior to justification and applying it to these times. I have read and studied all your points. I sent you my 11 page study on it months ago. You never replied. I am stating the highlights from it here and your still not replying. What are your thoughts on JUSTIFICATION and the study I posted below? I really want to know... Quote: 6. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8, 9 (KJV) AT LEAST ON THIS ONE ABOVE, if NOTHING ELSE In Love, DM _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 05 2004 09:31pm. |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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Quote: You need to stop this Family Radio philosophy, because the DO NOT beleive in justification and that is not biblical. They are convincing real CHRISTIANS they are not saved and that is part of, "The elite will be deceived". Please see the truth and realize JUST WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY DID FOR YOU, other than just die for your sins. THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN JUST THAT!!! DM what we have posted comes straight from the bible. Its not from family radio. It is Gods word. That is what the bible is saying to us. I just wanted to correct you that its no philosophy. Its the word of our lord and God. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 This comment was edited by Smilykrazy on Jul 05 2004 09:26pm. |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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DM and James its hard to explain. I am open to all that you write. But did you ever stop to think, just what if you are wrong? What if you arent saved? There has been millions of theolosians that swear they have the truth but dont. I believe that no one on this entire earth has the whole truth. The bible is loaded with hidden messages and such. Only true believers will see the true message because God will open up their spiritual eyes and ears to it. Again God has to do the work. I am just asking that you really think about all of this. We care about you too DM and James! That is why I ask this. I am not saying to change your view on things, but just really think about everything. Just what if you are wrong? What if we are wrong? We just have to let God work in us if he so desires to see the truth. For everything we ever come to know is because of God. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 This comment was edited by Smilykrazy on Jul 05 2004 09:20pm. |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Nice one Moby I agree 110% _______________ Website |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Koyi and Smily, You never really responded to this. Your still saying we all have to be chosena and we can not make a decision to be saved. Please read below and tell me how we have not be justified through Jesus Christ. Yes we are all scum bags, Jesus KNOWS this, but he loves us just the same. In our sinful lives we need to show the BABY STEPS to continuous improvement. None of us will EVER arrive. But we need to turn from our sins that are a lifestyle and work on all the other ones all the time, such a swearing, or things like this. As long as we are EARNESTLY trying to get rid of sin, and show marked improvements and give him the glory and praise for giving us the strenght, HE DELIGHTS in us. You need to stop this Family Radio philosophy, because the DO NOT beleive in justification and that is not biblical. They are convincing real CHRISTIANS they are not saved and that is part of, "The elite will be deceived". Please see the truth and realize JUST WHAT JESUS ACTUALLY DID FOR YOU, other than just die for your sins. THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN JUST THAT!!! I love you guys and I am speaking out of love here and I know you know this, so please read below again and study it. I beleive it is the truth. Quote: Let me start my quoting scripture: But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. (Romans 5.8-10) I believe the following... 1. God is perfect, and He demands perfection. 2. I am a sinner. Romans 3:23 (KJV) says, "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." I can try all I want to please God on my own by trying to be good, but I can never match up to perfection. I can never meet all the requirements of the law. The law condemns me to spend eternity in hell apart from God. But is the law bad? No, but rather, ". . . the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith" Galatians 3:24 (KJV). What else does the Bible say? 3. As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one." Romans 3:10, 11, 12 4. Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. Romans 3:21-24 5. It is ONLY because of the righteousness of Jesus Christ that I am able to confidently say I am going to heaven. When I accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, the righteousness of Jesus was applied to my "account." My slate was wiped clean. Jesus' righteousness was imputed to me. I am now righteous in the eyes of God. I am being sanctified day by day and becoming more like He wants me to be. But positionally, I am justified. The debt has been paid in full. 6. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8, 9 (KJV) See Smily? It is not that you CAN NOT sin. We all are sinners. The key is repentence and truly work towards getting rid of all the sin in your life. No man will achieve perfection. He does not ask us to be perfect. He just wants to see our continuous improvement and for us to give him the glory. These are my opinions of what the word says. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Jul 05 2004 09:31pm. |
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Aron - Retired
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The Bible is very clear on this. No is no. People only bend the rules because they have problems obeying them. God forbids it This comment was edited by Aron on Jul 05 2004 08:04pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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well, this kind of has to do with the bible... The Bible forbids pre-marital sex, correct? I was just wondering what you people feel on this subject Personally, I have nothing against it, as long as it comes from a steady relationship with a lot of love involved. I'm pretty much against one-night-stands and such... What are your thoughts? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JamesF1 - Student
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Fear (the 'bad' kind) and love cannot co-exist. So if the Bible says that you should "love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul" then surely the fear it references to is the 'good' kind of fear. e.g. I cannot fear death (for example) and at the same time love it. I can't be afraid to die but can't wait to die (see, makes no sense at all). _______________ Website |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Great post Smily. Let's look a little further into this topic of fear. In Psalm 2:11 we read: 11) Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. {I'm sorry that I'm pulling this verse out of context but the trembling part is what I wanted to bring to light.} In Psalm 6:1-7 we read: 1) O LORD, rebuke me not in thine anger, neither chasten me in thy hot displeasure. 2)Have mercy upon me, O LORD; for I weak: O LORD, heal me; for my bones are vexed. 3) My soul is also sore vexed: but thou, O LORD, how long? 4) Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake. 5) For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? 6) I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears. 7) Mine eye is consumed because of grief; it waxeth old because of all mine enemies. In Psalm 7:11 we read: 11) God judgeth the righteous or [God is a just judge], and God is angry with the wicked every day. In Psalm 9:19-20 we read: 19) Arise, O LORD: let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight. 20) Put them in fear, O LORD; that the nations may know themselves to be but men. In Psalm 11:5-6 we read: 5) The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. 6) Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and a horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup. In Psalm 17:15 we read: 15) As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. Too tired. Will continue another time. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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