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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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Menaxia - Student 
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WOOOT GO MIKE! My point exactly. IMO posts like this have no place in the JA. This is a place for recreation, not religious conversion that inevitably turns into a grudge match and then finally into a flame war. _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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If all the derogatory posts here were deleted, this would be a very empty thread.  |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Please, if you're not interested or you're going to be derog. - don't bother posting in here. _______________ Website |
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Menaxia - Student 
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*THERE IS NO MALE NOR FEMALE, ROMAN NOR GREEK, JEW NOR GENTILE, CIRCUMSISED OR UNCIRCUMSISED - SO I GUESS THAT LEAVES UNISEX + ONE SIZE FITS ALL. HOW BORING.* _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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IN DA BGINNG WAS TEH WORD AND TEH WORD WAS WIT GOD AND DA WORD WAS GOD!11!!111!!!11! LOL WTF |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Seeing that in John 1:1-5,14 we read: 1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2) The same was in the beginning with God. 3) All things were made by him; and without him, was not any thing made that was made. 4) In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5) And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. In Acts 4:12 we read: 12) Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Jesus came into the world to save the world, (His elect), not to condemn the world. That is why so many focus on His power of salvations. This is the good news and people like good news. The problem with this is as John 1 says, Jesus is the Word and the whole Word must always be in view. When Jesus returns, Judgement and Condemnation is coming with Him. As far as other literature is concerned, it isn't the Bible and I wouldn't want it to become a serious discussion here in this thread. The Bible is the Word of God and is all we need to find truth. In Rom. 3:4 we read: 4) God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, THAT THOU MIGHTEST BE JUSTIFIED IN THY SAYINGS, AND MIGHTEST OVERCOME WHEN THOU ART JUDGED. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Hi, I just read a fascinating work by a scholar on Jesus which raises some interesting things to think about. For example, the common belief is that Jesus was/is the Son Of God. But this book talks about the *feminine* god, Sophia, who was the ancient God of Wisdom. Sophia was with God from the beginning of time. The author posits that Jesus is not so much the "son of God," but the "son of Wisdom" and uses various translations to back up his thoughts. He also feels that seeing Jesus as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins, and nothing more, is missing the big picture. According to this scholar, the early church (far back before different books were canonized into the Bible) stressed that the reasons for Jesus' death were threefold: 1) that His death was a *victory* over death and earthly concerns, and something for us to therefore take comfort in; that 2) that Jesus death was a sacrifice for our sins; and 3) that His death was a revealation. He goes on to say that the church only teaches/places importance on the second of those three reasons, and that in so doing, the message of Jesus is lost on many people. Just my two cents. This comment was edited by Mookie on Jul 08 2004 09:26am. |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Just wanted to post some scripture really quick that supports DM's view of the Bible. In Rom.7:13-25 we read: 13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15) For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16) If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17) Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18)For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19) For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20) Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21) I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22) For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23) But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24) O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25) I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. I'll admit that I've always had the thought from the beginning that there is nothing anyone can do to become saved and evidance of that would be made manifest in our works, not by doing the work itself. I'm just trying to look at this from all angles to make sure I'm not missing anything but these sciptures seem to agree with what DM is saying. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Jade - Student 
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Hi Everyone. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for this thread. It is not often that I get to talk about the Bible and God. This has been a form of therapy for me and also a wake up call for me to actually question how much I understand and believe. It is also one less period of time that I feel temptation. The more I think about your comments, the more I think about God and the less I am tempted....THANK YOU ALL! Much much respect to you all especially with the quotes from the Bible and the level of understanding here. Thank you again and God bless you all Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Jade - Student 
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Quote: ...what I read in the Bible is that I am saved by believing in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. I do, and therefore-in my mind-I am saved. No-one will ever convince me otherwise It is right to believe that when Jesus died he sacrificed himself for our sins. From that our sins are forgiven. However, this does not mean we should be complacent. He came to let us know that we had not understood Gods commandments properly and that his life was an example for others to follow. He constantly warns us to be on the guard and not to fall assleep because if he returns on judgement day and finds us who know his commands assleep then it would be better for us to not have known his commands as our punishment would be the worst of all. His commands do not request just understanding them, but to practice them...love thy neighbour, origninal 10 commandments etc... So be warned! "It is not an easy path to walk as a christian and it is never too late to find your faith" Quote: Bail: - 3) Trust God completely and everything you command shall happen... Nice one Bail. I think this is basically to "Trust" God and to have "Faith". There is a practice that was taught to me... When you have a crisis in your life where you just cannot seem to find a solution. Do not sit and ponder and worry over this. Worrying does not solve the problem. Have faith! Pray to God about the problem with all your heart. When you have finished....forget about it - Completely! Have Faith in God and Trust in him. He will find a way where there seems to be no way. If he cannot then no-one can and all your worrying is for nothing. The outcome is then what God has chosen for you and you should fully accept this. To continue to worry after you pray is to not trust that God has heard your prayer. This is a test of your faith - but not to purposely challenge God for a solution, but to offer yourself to God saying "whatever you command is my wish..." I hope this is understandable, but just wanted to agree and expand on Bails comment. Good luck everyone. May God be with you every step in your life and carry you when life throws you a curve ball... Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Aron - Retired 
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Quote: DM and James its hard to explain. I am open to all that you write. But did you ever stop to think, just what if you are wrong? What if you arent saved? Sorry to go back such a way into the thread. But Smily, what I read in the Bible is that I am saved by believing in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. I do, and therefore - in my mind - I am saved. No-one will ever convince me otherwise. Well, from the top of my head: I'm not sure what the english translation is, but literally translated it is called "practising faith" in the bible. The original greek word that is translated with this (I'll look this up later) was something about "having faith, and DOING/PRACTISING the thing you have learned in every aspect of your life". Simple "knowing" is not enough. I don't know the actual verse from the top of my head (again, because it is English), but there is a verse that says "Belief without deeds is dead (or something like that" If you follow God and Jesus, you have to do what they want you to do, not only REALIZE what they want you to, and what they have done. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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I agree with James. I feel following Jesus' Word is enough. Not to sound lazy or anything, since I feel I sound like it  but I just mean, technically, it holds everything you should do. 1) Believe in one God 2) Love your neighbours, and pray for those who persecute you 3) Trust God completely and everything you command shall happen, if you have 100% of trust that it will happen as you commanded and so on... Technically, that's what the Bible says too. Any opinions? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JamesF1 - Student
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Quote: DM and James its hard to explain. I am open to all that you write. But did you ever stop to think, just what if you are wrong? What if you arent saved? Sorry to go back such a way into the thread. But Smily, what I read in the Bible is that I am saved by believing in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. I do, and therefore - in my mind - I am saved. No-one will ever convince me otherwise. _______________ Website |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Well, JamesF1 thought it would be cool for the Jedi Academy Christians to have thier own channel in IRC and I agreed with Him and Aron got on board too, so we just wanted to go public. Once we get the idler's, Aron will get, "L" for us and we can make it official. So, GET ON AND IDLE!!!  -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Okay, I will study into what you have posted DM. It's only fair that I try really hard to see where your coming from. I will repost old scriptures from times passed that too have never really been responded to. This is so awesome that we are here searching for the truth. God. Please bless us as we seek Your truth for your glory. Also, I think it's great that you have started this Union. Is it a Bible study type union, or what? I only ask because that is what this thread is all about. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Hey Koyi, JamesF1, Aron and I have started the #ja-cu (Christian Union). Could you put that in your announcement up top? Thanks man -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Aron - Retired
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Awesome post Jade, that's all I have to say Really awesome. |
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Jade - Student
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Hi Wood. I am sorry for your experiences. I too have had similar experiences when I was young. I am now 30 and still have periods of depression. However, in all this time, I have never looked to God for the miracle. When I was around 10, I remember that I used to pray to God (or what I thought was praying as no-ne ever taught me). He was just my friend...someone to talk to and cry to. Little things, big things...he was there. He was my friend...my best friend. As life has gone on, I too have had attempts at suicide (I would really like to talk to you about that in private...so I will post my email on your profile). However, all things turn out good somehow.... I am now an adult and a father of 2 children. I do not and would not do what was done to me. I am strong, controlled, caring, patient and most of all understanding. I am now in a good position to give love, compassion and support for my children. I know I hold the future in my hands through my children. I have created life, and now I guide it. This is the blessing from God. This is the power we are all capable of....and he trusts us with it. I see other parents who simply do not appreciate this...they never will as you dont know the good without tasting the bad. Too many things are taken for granted. All this would not be possible without my childhood. This is my point. Be strong and patient. All will become clear. God has a path for us and a reason for us to walk it however difficult. He is preparing us for something in the future. He is preparing us for Great things. Lastly, we all count...not just the elite elect....he wants us all there! - read the parable of the prodigal son - even if you have walked away from God. When you decide to return to him, he will be so pleased with you. You will be filled with warmth and love beyond imagination. I walked away and came back...and yes...there was something special, I was content, fullfilled and.....happy....for the first time! I will pray for you Wood and please consider me a friend should you need to talk. You are in my thoughts Jade. _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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DJK - Student 
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I'm not trying to make other stop beliving! im just saying that no matter what I did, it somehow dint seemed enough for "god". And yes i HAD faith, but now, i dont simply becourse i fought my way to now. Im depressed, im going to bed, sleep well everybody. This comment was edited by DJK on Jul 06 2004 01:16am. |
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Quote: Can you see the wind? Can you FEEL the wind? Im not THAT stupid mister -_- But practually just think about it for a secound, He/she doesnt talk to ANYONE!(And dont come say that you've heard him say something becourse you basicly dont have a proove that you did...and some might concider you mental crasy....) He/She dont show any signs at all, nether does He/She helps a damn thing if you perform a so called "Prayer", my life has been alot of bad shit! just since i was child to now, ive been hurted Fysicli and psy. I even nearly decided Suecide to be an very nice selution away from all the trubles wich your "god" dint do a thing about. So dont come here and tell me he talks to anyone or shows signs or help you, becourse he dint helped me a damn shit, nether he showed me signs OR speaked to me!! ...I apologize for my bad english and my rather hard way of explonation. It's a little thing called FAITH. Although I am athiest, I believe that most faith comes from having faith in God. Who are we to understand the actions of a higher being? Who are we to question the existance of God? If you don't believe in God, then He obviously cannot help you. But, I don't believe God hands out life-saving miracles all the time. I believe God gives people the strength to help themselves. I'm sorry to hear that things have been bad for you, but you can't blame God for not helping you. Why should God have to PROVE his existance to people? You either believe in God, or you don't. Don't tell other people their prayers are in vain - Just because you don't have faith, means you should rob people of THEIR faith. I have many good friends who believe in God, who pray every night, and are content and happy with their lives. Perhaps their prayers are answered? Perhaps the things that the y pray for are given by God, or perhaps they are just coincidence. It all comes down to faith in God. I hope this post is helpful. |
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DJK - Student
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Yea...your right, i was stupid, forgive me, i dint intent to be so agressively. |
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Aron - Retired 
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God listens to EVERY sincere prayer. However, he does not ANSWER every one. Not every prayer is acceptable. It has to meet certain conditions. Before praying, you should have a BOND with God. BELIEVE in the power of prayer. Hebrews 11:6 ------- Quote: But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Of course, a person SEEKING God can always pray to him on HOW TO GET TO KNOW HIM. God does not HAVE to answer prayers. It may sound harsh, but praying for better health does not mean you automatically get "answered". The Bible encourages you to keep praying. Romans 12:12 ------ Quote: Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer Colossans 4:2 -------- Quote: Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving Keep in mind that he has foresaid prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled in which EVERY sick person can get better again, and live eternally, if they have done God's will. Revelations 21:4 ----------- Quote: and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away. I think that is a wonderful promise to remember I think a lot of us (including me, believe me) have had their share of RL problems. However, we have to keep looking FORWARD. This comment was edited by Aron on Jul 06 2004 12:10am. |
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Quote: Can you see the wind? Can you FEEL the wind? Im not THAT stupid mister -_- But practually just think about it for a secound, He/she doesnt talk to ANYONE!(And dont come say that you've heard him say something becourse you basicly dont have a proove that you did...and some might concider you mental crasy....) He/She dont show any signs at all, nether does He/She helps a damn thing if you perform a so called "Prayer", my life has been alot of bad shit! just since i was child to now, ive been hurted Fysicli and psy. I even nearly decided Suecide to be an very nice selution away from all the trubles wich your "god" dint do a thing about. So dont come here and tell me he talks to anyone or shows signs or help you, becourse he dint helped me a damn shit, nether he showed me signs OR speaked to me!! ...I apologize for my bad english and my rather hard way of explonation. This comment was edited by DJK on Jul 05 2004 11:20pm. |
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Aron - Retired
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Quote: I know this is kinda out of topic but here goes: How come so many people Trust and belive in something they never seen? And WHY do they belive it? I my self have hard time to belive in god becourse i simply have no proof, and becourse i never got helped by "Him/her" Thanks for listening. -W0oD Can you see the wind? Can you FEEL the wind? Another thing, let's just go back to basics here. Two basic options on how the earth was created (there are more, but these are the mostly used): 1) Created by God, or some "higher power" 2) Big Bang, followed by everything that is explained in the evolution theory. Did you ever see a house build itself? Does it seem logical that through a huge explosion (I'm using child terms here) things would be "created" ? Or it is more logical that SOMEONE created it? Intelligent lifeforms. Beautiful lifeforms. There are so many wonderful aspects of life that a lot of people take for granted. The sheer power of the stars or our sun is incredible. Then think of the fact that EVERYTHING hangs together, in a perfect, harmonious way. I grew up with religious parents, and yeah, I had my period of doubts. But THIS was the tought that took it all away. |
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StarWarsGirl - Ex-Student 
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Once you go to a christain church enough you start to feel and see(not through eyes,through heart) his presence in your life then you except him and you get to know him even better. _______________ Be strong & brave.Don't ever be afraid. Joshua 1:9 Fear is the path to the darkside. -Jedi Master Yoda |
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